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New Business openings and closures around you?

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Lets see what damage the recession is doing or if many new businesses have managed to open during these hard times.
New openings of businesses around you, closures of businesses around you?
New openings I saw recently-
Mini golf dundrum,
pandora dundrum,
gourmet grill Rathmines,
mr.simms sweet shop opening rathmines soon.
calendar club nutgrove,
mr bs arcade nutgrove,
trespass nutgrove,
dwarka indian takeaway rathmines,
paco nutgrove,
3 store nutgrove,
macari fish and chips, braemor
smiles dental dundrum
new restaurant to open in dundrum soon.
kids charity shop in dundrum
best barber shop,dundrum

closures
pizza hut rathgar
spar rathgar
chinese takeaway rathgar
gamestop rathmines
zumo swan centre,

all i can think of for now, whats happening around you.:)

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Kingp35

MonkstownHoop wrote: »

They will apparently yes. Beer Traders in Dun Laoghaire will follow shortly, a shame really but GB just never seemed bothered to put any effort into making it work, no wonder staff are leaving across the board.

Galway Brewery bars sell lovely beers but they are very expensive. No surprise that Beer Traders didn't take off.

Stephen15

I see now after they opened Cafè Sol. The off licence is the next part of Dunnes Stores Cornelscourt is the next to get a refurb

MonkstownHoop

Exclamation Marc wrote: »

The Dark Horse pub implied on their Facebook page that it's their last night as a Galway Bay brewery so possibly theyll remain or reopen just under a different name/affiliation.

They will apparently yes. Beer Traders in Dun Laoghaire will follow shortly, a shame really but GB just never seemed bothered to put any effort into making it work, no wonder staff are leaving across the board.

The Iron Giant

The Dark Horse pub implied on their Facebook page that it's their last night as a Galway Bay brewery so possibly theyll remain or reopen just under a different name/affiliation.

dublinman1990

Oh no!

Blackrock Shopping Centre got caught in a fire from a gas canister on the roof.

http://www.independent.ie/irish-news/news/south-dublin-shopping-centre-evacuated-as-fire-brigade-tackle-roof-blaze-36022857.html

Stephen15

EricPraline wrote: »

Meanwhile Blackrock Shopping Centre will be getting a facelift, perhaps with a new "Ballon & Fyrne"...

https://twitter.com/smytho/status/895227823417327616

And a Doojum

EricPraline

The Dark Horse in Blackrock is closing unfortunately

https://twitter.com/TheDarkHorseDub/status/895950166905290752

Meanwhile Blackrock Shopping Centre will be getting a facelift, perhaps with a new "Ballon & Fyrne"...

https://twitter.com/smytho/status/895227823417327616

coylemj

CeilingFly wrote: »

I can see that (d'oh) - but in the context of the poster's last post here was about Aldi going into the Frascati centre and that the poster is from Dublin 15, you could deduct that the poster did not realise that there are two shopping centres in Blackrock with just a road dividing them and that this objection will have no bearing on the Frascati development.

Good work there Sherlock.

CeilingFly wrote: »

Any news on the Playwright - no new suggestions for over a week!

A bit of a religious argy bargy has broken out thanks to a (spoof?) suggestion that it was being 'looked at' by the Scientologists.

CeilingFly

coylemj wrote: »

This thread is not exclusively about the Frascati Centre. Which BTW nobody has mentioned since last Thursday, recent posts have been about the old cinema in Blackrock.

I can see that (d'oh) - but in the context of the poster's last post here was about Aldi going into the Frascati centre and that the poster is from Dublin 15, you could deduct that the poster did not realise that there are two shopping centres in Blackrock with just a road dividing them and that this objection will have no bearing on the Frascati development.

Any news on the Playwright - no new suggestions for over a week!

ted1

coylemj wrote: »

CeilingFly wrote: »

This concerns the development of extra office space on part of the carpark of the Blackrock shopping centre - no connection with the Frascati centre redevelopment.

This thread is not exclusively about the Frascati Centre. Which BTW nobody has mentioned since last Thursday, recent posts have been about the old cinema in Blackrock.

I imagine the thought of Aldi opening across the road, right when there car park is a building site would have influenced there objections

coylemj

CeilingFly wrote: »

This concerns the development of extra office space on part of the carpark of the Blackrock shopping centre - no connection with the Frascati centre redevelopment.

This thread is not exclusively about the Frascati Centre. Which BTW nobody has mentioned since last Thursday, recent posts have been about the old cinema in Blackrock.

CeilingFly

ongarboy wrote: »

Supervalu objects to Blackrock SC redevelopment over concerns due to reduced carparking spaces.

http://www.irishtimes.com/business/retail-and-services/musgrave-objects-to-redevelopment-works-at-blackrock-shopping-centre-1.3165624

This concerns the development of extra office space on part of the carpark of the Blackrock shopping centre - no connection with the Frascati centre redevelopment.

ongarboy

Supervalu objects to Blackrock SC redevelopment over concerns due to reduced carparking spaces.

http://www.irishtimes.com/business/retail-and-services/musgrave-objects-to-redevelopment-works-at-blackrock-shopping-centre-1.3165624

CeilingFly

uch wrote: »

They actually just recycled the cinema in Blackrock, it was in use until early 60's, my Mother was a regular in the 50's

http://cinematreasures.org/theaters/42603

You got there before me.

CeilingFly

Too many kids here

(ok, I Googled it)

Regent Cinema was in the middle of the town where cafe java is.

Operated until 1961

http://cinematreasures.org/theaters/42603

uch

ted1 wrote: »

Most towns had a picture house, Glasthule had one , just googled it had one open in 1914 and closed in 1929

They actually just recycled the cinema in Blackrock, it was in use until early 60's, my Mother was a regular in the 50's

http://cinematreasures.org/theaters/42603

Awaaf

Stephen15 wrote: »

I don't think it ever did. Blackrock isin't really that big size wise its somewhere in between a town like Dun Laoghaire or Bray and a village like Deansgrange or Dalkey. I couldn't see a cinema doing that well there I reckon it might be a case of flooding the market considering Dun Laoghaire, Stillorgan and even Dundrum are only a hop, skip and jump away.

Funny enough Dalkey had one at one time somewhere near the top of Convent Road IIRC. Never heard of one in Blackrock.

ted1

Stephen15 wrote: »

xper wrote: »

Here's a random question for people who have been around Blackrock longer than I have - did it ever have a cinema? Given the timing that both shopping centres were first built, it may have been just a few years too early for either development to include a multiplex.

I don't think it ever did. Blackrock isin't really that big size wise its somewhere in between a town like Dun Laoghaire or Bray and a village like Deansgrange or Dalkey. I couldn't see a cinema doing that well there I reckon it might be a case of flooding the market considering Dun Laoghaire, Stillorgan and even Dundrum are only a hop, skip and jump away.

Most towns had a picture house, Glasthule had one , just googled it had one open in 1914 and closed in 1929

Stephen15

xper wrote: »

Here's a random question for people who have been around Blackrock longer than I have - did it ever have a cinema? Given the timing that both shopping centres were first built, it may have been just a few years too early for either development to include a multiplex.

I don't think it ever did. Blackrock isin't really that big size wise its somewhere in between a town like Dun Laoghaire or Bray and a village like Deansgrange or Dalkey. I couldn't see a cinema doing that well there I reckon it might be a case of flooding the market considering Dun Laoghaire, Stillorgan and even Dundrum are only a hop, skip and jump away.

xper

caviardreams wrote: »

Are there plans to redevelop the other shopping centre too? Had not heard that - interesting times for Blackrock!

Just going on what other posters have said previously in his thread. Not sure of what such plans actually involve.

coylemj wrote: »

There's no question about it, it's ideal for Aldi but I was addressing it from the perspective of the landlord and the other tenants.

I'd say for example that Boots will be none too pleased to see Aldi coming in with all their cheap shampoo, soap etc. The problem for M&S of course is that Debenhams is a direct competitor for the sale of clothes so maybe that's why they decided not to expand in Frascati.

I'd say the landlord is delighted with a sure bet like Aldi. There is nothing particularly fancy about the Frascati Centre apart from the name. Most of the shops are the exact equivalent, mostly chain stores, of what you'd find in any other small Dublin shopping centre. If anything, Blackrock SC across the road has more independent/niche retailers.

Here's a random question for people who have been around Blackrock longer than I have - did it ever have a cinema? Given the timing that both shopping centres were first built, it may have been just a few years too early for either development to include a multiplex.

Stephen15

jesus_thats_gre wrote: »

Here is a different question. Is it not very rare for them to have a store located in a shopping centre like this? Granted, I have seen them in purpose built facilities with a handful of shops colocated but I don't think I have seen them in a shopping centre like this where there are other large anchor tenants?

True enough I can't really think of any of examples of discount supermarkets in shopping centres other than the Lidl in the old Dundrum SC which is nowhere near on the same scale as this project there is also a Lidl located in the Cornmarket Centre in Cork City. It a shock annoucement to say the least.

jesus_thats_gre

ongarboy wrote: »

https://www.rte.ie/news/business/2017/0719/891387-aldi-to-become-tenant-in-refurbished-frascati-centre/

Aldi to open at the Frascati SC in Blackrock. Is it me or is this a kind of underwhelming announcement? I'd have thought a shopping centre in one of the most affluent suburbs in Ireland would be seeking more high end type food retailers for it's expanded floorspace (eg Donnybrook Fair, Fallon & Byrne or even Fresh)? I think Aldi is a great store but they can be found just about everywhere.

Here is a different question. Is it not very rare for them to have a store located in a shopping centre like this? Granted, I have seen them in purpose built facilities with a handful of shops colocated but I don't think I have seen them in a shopping centre like this where there are other large anchor tenants?

ted1

Planning is in, but there's lots of objections. So it might be a while, they should just open in the new centre that was just built

uch

When are they supposed to start on Shankill ?

ted1

CeilingFly wrote: »

This will be very much a "Blackrock" aldi.

New flagship premium store and introduction of new fresh food lines - probably closer to M&S than the Aldi of 10 years ago.

Sallynoggin is trialling some of the changes

https://www.esmmagazine.com/aldi-ireland-revamp-stores-project-fresh/45626

I persume Shankill will follow suit once it's built

CeilingFly

coylemj wrote: »

There's no question about it, it's ideal for Aldi but I was addressing it from the perspective of the landlord and the other tenants.

I'd say for example that Boots will be none too pleased to see Aldi coming in with all their cheap shampoo, soap etc. The problem for M&S of course is that Debenhams is a direct competitor for the sale of clothes so maybe that's why they decided not to expand in Frascati.

M&S are cutting back on clothing and homeware and concentrating more on food where they do extremely well.

coylemj

schemingbohemia wrote: »

There's a significant distance to the next nearest ALDI though isn't there? Sandyford/Sallynoggin/Nutgrove leaves a lot of space for another one. Not too many other options for ALDI in the general area.

There's no question about it, it's ideal for Aldi but I was addressing it from the perspective of the landlord and the other tenants.

I'd say for example that Boots will be none too pleased to see Aldi coming in with all their cheap shampoo, soap etc. The problem for M&S of course is that Debenhams is a direct competitor for the sale of clothes so maybe that's why they decided not to expand in Frascati.

CeilingFly

This will be very much a "Blackrock" aldi.

New flagship premium store and introduction of new fresh food lines - probably closer to M&S than the Aldi of 10 years ago.

Sallynoggin is trialling some of the changes

https://www.esmmagazine.com/aldi-ireland-revamp-stores-project-fresh/45626

caviardreams

xper wrote: »

P.S. What odds Lidl will follow into the Blackrock Shopping Centre refurb within the year?

Are there plans to redevelop the other shopping centre too? Had not heard that - interesting times for Blackrock!

xper

ongarboy wrote: »

https://www.rte.ie/news/business/2017/0719/891387-aldi-to-become-tenant-in-refurbished-frascati-centre/

Aldi to open at the Frascati SC in Blackrock. Is it me or is this a kind of underwhelming announcement? I'd have thought a shopping centre in one of the most affluent suburbs in Ireland would be seeking more high end type food retailers for it's expanded floorspace (eg Donnybrook Fair, Fallon & Byrne or even Fresh)? I think Aldi is a great store but they can be found just about everywhere.

F&B and Donnybrook Fair aren't really anchor tenant scale shops though, are they? And afluence isn't universal - there are plenty of potential customers in the area (like me!) who can't afford to do a 'full shop' in the likes of M&S.
Until very recently, the Deansgrange/Pottery Road Lidls were they only discount supermarkets east of the N11. There is still a huge swathe north of Sallynoggin/Dun Laoghaire which is still free of the wonders of the centre aisle bargains. I think an Aldi here will do very, very well.
The IT article mentions the Blackrock store will be new style flagship store for Aldi so they are making the effort to 'fit in'.

coylemj wrote: »

I visit my local Lidl at least twice a week so have nothing against the discount stores but I'd have expected the expanded Frascati to include a full blown M&S and not an Aldi. Considering the building works had already started, I'd say the letting agents were getting desperate to let the space. .....

In the original planning permission for the centre's expansion, the new large retail unit was connected to a reconfigured version of the current M&S unit but in the second plan, the one that is now being constructed, the M&S unit pretty much maintains its current footprint and the third anchor unit is totally separate.
It looks like the original thinking was indeed that M&S would open a full clothing section but they changed their minds at some point. The current M&S cafe used to be a small (to the point of near uselessness) clothes section so maybe it gave them enough data to decide it wouldn't work. There is a very large overlap between M&S and Debenhams too so its not a huge gap imho.

P.S. What odds Lidl will follow into the Blackrock Shopping Centre refurb within the year?