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Official Conor McGregor thread (part 4) *Updated Warning in 1st Post Re:Boxing match

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Official Conor McGregor thread (part 3) *Updated Warning in 1st Post Re:Boxing match
The last thread was nearing the 10k post limit so here's part 4.

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walshb

cletus wrote: »

For those of us who are non boxing experts, how would we tell the difference between Conor being competitive and Floyd making Conor look like he is competitive

You don't have to be an expert to know this stuff. MMA and Boxing are supported and followed by both sets of fans. I am sure you will be able to see if Floyd is coasting and not going hard. Same with Conor. I won't be looking at Conor as much, as he is not the boxer. There's a tip. Watch Floyd a little more.

On the off chance that Conor somehow fights and boxes similarly to Maidana and you can see that he is being very bothersome then you could deduce that Floyd will need to commit and work.

Don't get me wrong, Floyd doesn't just need to show up. He may well need to exert himself. I juts cannot see this exetion bothering him or being all that difficult for him.

If the gulf in class really is as we think and expect, then Floyd will show us this in how he performs. Either by whupping Conor or by coasting and still being clearly superior.

cletus

walshb wrote: »

I never mentioned that Floyd allows him to punch him in the head or face

He can allow Conor look competitive without allowing Conor to do any significant damage.

You don't see that or believe that?

For those of us who are non boxing experts, how would we tell the difference between Conor being competitive and Floyd making Conor look like he is competitive

Fiery mutant

I don't often post in this thread, but that video of Canelo firing away is just a pure joy to watch. His accuracy and release of punches is something else, you can feel the power flowing through those shots, and the concentration on his face as he lets fly.

A most accurate description of how to take advantage of a wounded fighter.

walshb

wonderfullife wrote: »

The only way this "looks competitive" is if Conor lands punches on his head.

So you're now saying Floyd will "allow" Conor to punch him in the face repeatedly to give some sort of illusion of competitiveness?

I just don't know where to even start with some of you.

I never mentioned that Floyd allows him to punch him in the head or face

He can allow Conor look competitive without allowing Conor to do any significant damage.

You don't see that or believe that?

Eyes Down Field

wonderfullife wrote:

Going back through some of Press Tour and Floyd only lost his cool once and it was to a reporter.

wonderfullife wrote:

"My name is not Floyd Mayweather Jr. My name is Floyd Joy Mayweather. I'm not no Junior".

wonderfullife wrote:

If I was Conor I'd be piling on the Junior stuff every single day.

I wouldn't consider that to be "losing your cool" Floyd is 40 now so I'm not surprised he might want to drop the 'Junior' from his name and go by something else. 'Joy' is actually the nickname his father used in boxing, and although Floyd and his father have had their differences, there is still allot of love and respect between them.

Floyd has stayed remarkably cool during all of McGregor's taunting, insults and even physical contact.
Nothing will get to him, especially when it comes to fight night, He's the most disciplined in ring fighter ever.

wonderfullife

Going back through some of Press Tour and Floyd only lost his cool once and it was to a reporter.

"My name is not Floyd Mayweather Jr. My name is Floyd Joy Mayweather. I'm not no Junior".

If I was Conor I'd be piling on the Junior stuff every single day.

wonderfullife

walshb wrote: »

The conspiracy isn't Conor in any way winning..

More Floyd allowing Conor to look somewhat competitive..

I wouldn't call that a silly feeling to have or situation to consider..

The only way this "looks competitive" is if Conor lands punches on his head.

So you're now saying Floyd will "allow" Conor to punch him in the face repeatedly to give some sort of illusion of competitiveness?

I just don't know where to even start with some of you.

[Deleted User]

Gamebred wrote: »

This machine couldnt land a single clean punch on Floyd (dont care if he was too young) and people are backing Conor at 4/1

Fantasy here but could you imagine if someone had Canelos striking with good wrestling/BJJ/Kicking in mma.

walshb

wonderfullife wrote: »

You're right. Spending $1 million on a camp for a fight you stand to make $75 - $100 million before tax, is a drop in the bucket.

But if you're not taking it seriously, why spend it?

I don't understand why people are pushing these conspiracy theories, smacks to me of people getting their excuses in early in case Conor lands a bomb on his chin.

As for the rest, try hit him on his chin?

The conspiracy isn't Conor in any way winning..

More Floyd allowing Conor to look somewhat competitive..

I wouldn't call that a silly feeling to have or situation to consider..

hewhoscares

wonderfullife wrote: »

finglashoop wrote: »

The money mcgregor is spending is a pittance to what he stands to gain from this. Even if it was a glorified spar like people seem to think (i dont) mcgregor would still have a long road to be able to try and match mayweather to make it look believable.

......

For the life of me i dont know what exploit he thinks he can come up with that no boxer has tried before. Q

You're right. Spending $1 million on a camp for a fight you stand to make $75 - $100 million before tax, is a drop in the bucket.

But if you're not taking it seriously, why spend it?

I don't understand why people are pushing these conspiracy theories, smacks to me of people getting their excuses in early in case Conor lands a bomb on his chin.

As for the rest, try hit him on his chin?

wonderfullife wrote: »

hewhoscares wrote: »

Paulie is getting nowhere near a 6 figure payday for a few weeks sparring.

And 50-0 as a trademark is not worth 'tens of millions' - thats like the rubbish that people spout about Michael Buffer being worth $200m based him holding the 'ready to rumble' trademark - who's paying for these trademarks to accumulate these amounts.
They'll get the odd rights fee and sell the odd bit of merch with it on. Not mega money.

Right well you should be writing a strongly worded letter to Forbes because they put his 2014 merchandise income from "TMT" at $15 million for the year.

He has trademarks on "TMT 50" and "TBE 50" too.

So yeah unless Forbes are clueless, then those trademarks will be worth a fortune to him.

"TBE 49-1" doesn't have the same ring to it...

In fact, losing to Conor will hurt his existing TBE income. Hard to call yourself "The Best Ever" if you get flattened by an 0-0 boxer.

Yeah just because a business has a turnover of $15m doesn't mean it's worth "tens of millions" and neither would the branding 50-0. The value and turnovers of both brands and businesses would rely heavily on Floyd being active as a fighter too.
Neither trademark is 'worth a fortune' - the TBE/TMT branding has some value now after some serious investment, but it'll fade off into obscurity - the brands aren't some blue chip investment.

H8GHOTI

Didn't see this posted yet, but as suspected by most, Conor getting knocked out in sparring confirmed as nonsense.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/joshkatzowitz/2017/07/18/conor-mcgregor-floyd-mayweather-knockout-rumors/amp/

finglashoop

wonderfullife wrote: »

You're right. Spending $1 million on a camp for a fight you stand to make $75 - $100 million before tax, is a drop in the bucket.

But if you're not taking it seriously, why spend it?

I don't understand why people are pushing these conspiracy theories, smacks to me of people getting their excuses in early in case Conor lands a bomb on his chin.

As for the rest, try hit him on his chin?

Well if he doesnt look like hes taking it serious who would buy it. And spending one to make 100 is worth the one even if he wasnt serious.

Anyway i believe it is 100% serious so no conspiracy theory here. ( i do wonder if mayweather is easily on top will he go easy on mcgregor or absolutely embarrass him. Like you i hope mcgregor lands one clean shot to see how his power transfers)

i would say mcgregor is all out to try win this thing. Money no object to try make it happen

Hit him on the chin? I could have advised that for half a mil saved him half.

What i meant was they seem to think they have cracked some secret to boxing someone hasnt tried. And im wondering can he clarify any stuff he wants to try with he ref on the night.

wonderfullife

finglashoop wrote: »

The money mcgregor is spending is a pittance to what he stands to gain from this. Even if it was a glorified spar like people seem to think (i dont) mcgregor would still have a long road to be able to try and match mayweather to make it look believable.

......

For the life of me i dont know what exploit he thinks he can come up with that no boxer has tried before. Q

You're right. Spending $1 million on a camp for a fight you stand to make $75 - $100 million before tax, is a drop in the bucket.

But if you're not taking it seriously, why spend it?

I don't understand why people are pushing these conspiracy theories, smacks to me of people getting their excuses in early in case Conor lands a bomb on his chin.

As for the rest, try hit him on his chin?

wonderfullife

hewhoscares wrote: »

Paulie is getting nowhere near a 6 figure payday for a few weeks sparring.

And 50-0 as a trademark is not worth 'tens of millions' - thats like the rubbish that people spout about Michael Buffer being worth $200m based him holding the 'ready to rumble' trademark - who's paying for these trademarks to accumulate these amounts.
They'll get the odd rights fee and sell the odd bit of merch with it on. Not mega money.

Right well you should be writing a strongly worded letter to Forbes because they put his 2014 merchandise income from "TMT" at $15 million for the year.

He has trademarks on "TMT 50" and "TBE 50" too.

So yeah unless Forbes are clueless, then those trademarks will be worth a fortune to him.

"TBE 49-1" doesn't have the same ring to it...

In fact, losing to Conor will hurt his existing TBE income. Hard to call yourself "The Best Ever" if you get flattened by an 0-0 boxer.

finglashoop

The money mcgregor is spending is a pittance to what he stands to gain from this. Even if it was a glorified spar like people seem to think (i dont) mcgregor would still have a long road to be able to try and match mayweather to make it look believable.

With the ref mcgregor brought in, if he is planning to do some uncommon things, is he able to clarify the ref of the actual fight would allow it? As in, could it be technically legal but the ref of the fight on the night doesnt let it happen?

For the life of me i dont know what exploit he thinks he can come up with that no boxer has tried before. Q

hewhoscares

wonderfullife wrote: »

Stonedpilot wrote: »

No way can I see either bothering their arse at all in this fight.

Right, so Conor flew in a full-time nutritionist George Lockhart and sparring partner Dashon Johnson from America, Louis Adolphe from the UK, paid for a full-time ref for 2 weeks, flying in Paulie Malignaggi and a whole host of boxers, is working his arse off in the UFC Performance Institute...

For someone not bothering his arse he's spending a fortune on his camp.

How much do you think it costs to fly in Dashon Johnson for the bones of a month? The hotel itself would be $4,000, the flights another $3,000, his wages probably $15,000, that's on top of another few grand in lawyers fees drawing up and executing contracts and NDA's.

You think Paulie Malignaggi is going to Vegas for 4 days this week and then flying back to NY and back to Vegas again for the good of his health or do you think there's anywhere up to 6-figures enticing him?

The narrative that Conor doesn't give a fook is ridiculous with the amount he's spending on this camp.

Gamebred wrote: »

Floyd would accept a loss now for the sake of another few hundred million payday in a rematch no doubt, he cares about money not legacy.

He has filed 6 trademarks for 50-0 and already has a line of merchandise in production with 50-0.

He stands to make tens of millions off the 50-0 trademarks and can easily fight GGG in the future if he's stuck for a couple of hundred million.

You've lost the run of things if you think he'd happily take 49-1 to secure a rematch with a novice boxer.

Espinoza specifically said there's no rematch clause. Why? Because Floyd only gives a sh1t about 50-0 and feels there's not a hope Conor beats him so it would embarrass himself to put in a rematch clause.

Crazy stuff being posted.

Paulie is getting nowhere near a 6 figure payday for a few weeks sparring.

And 50-0 as a trademark is not worth 'tens of millions' - thats like the rubbish that people spout about Michael Buffer being worth $200m based him holding the 'ready to rumble' trademark - who's paying for these trademarks to accumulate these amounts.
They'll get the odd rights fee and sell the odd bit of merch with it on. Not mega money.

spix

Gamebred wrote: »

This machine couldnt land a single clean punch on Floyd (dont care if he was too young) and people are backing Conor at 4/1

Maybe he should get some feet under him!!

Gamebred

This machine couldnt land a single clean punch on Floyd (dont care if he was too young) and people are backing Conor at 4/1

Inviere

noc1980 wrote: »

Floyd V Guerrero

Just watched the full fight of that, masterclass is an understatement. I'd really LOVE Conor to somehow win this, for several reasons, but it just doesn't seem realistic.

Frank Bullitt

Stonedpilot wrote: »

HUH?

Post 1124...

Sofiztikated

Yeah, win, lose or draw, McGregor is going to come out of this sore.

wonderfullife

Stonedpilot wrote: »

No way can I see either bothering their arse at all in this fight.

Right, so Conor flew in a full-time nutritionist George Lockhart and sparring partner Dashon Johnson from America, Louis Adolphe from the UK, paid for a full-time ref for 2 weeks, flying in Paulie Malignaggi and a whole host of boxers, is working his arse off in the UFC Performance Institute...

For someone not bothering his arse he's spending a fortune on his camp.

How much do you think it costs to fly in Dashon Johnson for the bones of a month? The hotel itself would be $4,000, the flights another $3,000, his wages probably $15,000, that's on top of another few grand in lawyers fees drawing up and executing contracts and NDA's.

You think Paulie Malignaggi is going to Vegas for 4 days this week and then flying back to NY and back to Vegas again for the good of his health or do you think there's anywhere up to 6-figures enticing him?

The narrative that Conor doesn't give a fook is ridiculous with the amount he's spending on this camp.

Gamebred wrote: »

Floyd would accept a loss now for the sake of another few hundred million payday in a rematch no doubt, he cares about money not legacy.

He has filed 6 trademarks for 50-0 and already has a line of merchandise in production with 50-0.

He stands to make tens of millions off the 50-0 trademarks and can easily fight GGG in the future if he's stuck for a couple of hundred million.

You've lost the run of things if you think he'd happily take 49-1 to secure a rematch with a novice boxer.

Espinoza specifically said there's no rematch clause. Why? Because Floyd only gives a sh1t about 50-0 and feels there's not a hope Conor beats him so it would embarrass himself to put in a rematch clause.

Crazy stuff being posted.

WMP

I'm wondering if many people think or are worried that McGregor will suffer a career ending and/or possible life threatening beating?

Logic dictates that Floyd will land a lot of shots (body and head) if he's really up for a fight. It would be amazing to see McGregor get a fluke knock out but more realistically he's going to take a lot of punishment. There just has to be a world of difference in their boxing ability and anyone thinking otherwise is fooling themselves - in my opinion.

McGregor is cocky enough to think he has a chance but he could be in for a serious reality check. Hoping for him it doesn't end with him being stretchered off but it really could.

walshb

Gamebred wrote: »

Floyd would accept a loss now for the sake of another few hundred million payday in a rematch no doubt, he cares about money not legacy.

Money means a whole lot to him, but his unbeaten record is what defines him. He adores it. And he "fights" as if losing it would kill him. He'd accept a loss in the sense that he can't change it or go back in time, but it would crush him.

It's probably the one thing I am more certain about to do with this fight. That Floyd will not be fighting/staging to lose, if somehow there was shenanigans happening. No amount of money would see Floyd agree to a loss, least not to a novice.

Stonedpilot

Gintonious wrote: »

HUH?

Frank Bullitt

Gamebred wrote: »

Floyd would accept a loss now for the sake of another few hundred million payday in a rematch no doubt, he cares about money not legacy.

I think he sees them as equal, the whole reason why he gets the money he gets is because he is unbeaten.

Gamebred

Floyd would accept a loss now for the sake of another few hundred million payday in a rematch no doubt, he cares about money not legacy.

[Deleted User]

cloudatlas wrote: »

Conor needs to invite Andre Berto into the camp.

In think anybody who was beaten by Floyd...deep down they're not going to want Conor to win. It would diminish their own loss.

I just don't think their heart would be in it.

Frank Bullitt

Stonedpilot wrote: »

It will play out a dull points victory for Floyd, both men agree to nothing more than a sparring session together as the moneys already made. No way can I see either bothering their arse at all in this fight.

Stonedpilot

It will play out a dull points victory for Floyd, both men agree to nothing more than a sparring session together as the moneys already made. No way can I see either bothering their arse at all in this fight.