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Official Conor McGregor thread (part 4) *Updated Warning in 1st Post Re:Boxing match

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Official Conor McGregor thread (part 3) *Updated Warning in 1st Post Re:Boxing match
The last thread was nearing the 10k post limit so here's part 4.

The same rules as the last thread apply here. People seem to have strong opinions either way when it comes to McGregor and threads here tend to get a bit heated from time to time. Please keep it civil and discuss all things Conor in a mature way.

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walshb

spix wrote: »

You realize sparring performance doesn't mean everything, mayweather gets beat by his sparring partners all the time and alot of them are nobodies. It only counts on fight night. Some people perform better under pressure, others crumble.

Little different hearing about a great boxer having an off day or so against fellow pros compared to a non pro boxer having off days against pro boxers.

spix

Call Me Jimmy wrote: »

One thing I'm very interested in is when he spars against the best boxers he has. By that time it will be clear to his team (and him) what exactly is going to go down. Unless he definitively gives these guys trouble, Kavanagh and Roddy will know before the fight that its going to be an absolute ****show. But during that time the build up will continue and Conor and the boys will be talking it up and people will be spending their hard earned cash. I wonder will there be a feeling of remorse if it is going badly and they are lying about sparring etc.

Just a thought, a lot of people will say 'we already know its going to be a ****show and anyone who doesn't is a fool' but I still think the team will be in a wierd position having to flat out lie about things. Just going by the conventional wisdom, that is how it will play out.

You realize sparring performance doesn't mean everything, mayweather gets beat by his sparring partners all the time and alot of them are nobodies. It only counts on fight night. Some people perform better under pressure, others crumble.

walshb

Sofiztikated wrote: »

I see you just admitted he was a star here.

http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=104101598&postcount=2756

So you were/are on a wind up.

The irony and fun completely lost on you..

Tell me you're not that blunt?

Sofiztikated

walshb wrote: »

Fair points..

I suppose the best way to describe my view would be Andy Murray.

A favourite of mine. Cheer him over anyone else.

Well known, globally known, excellent at his sport, world successful at his sport.

For me he is not a star. Just a tennis player who is famous and successful..

Stars to me are much rarer..

It's a mix of several things, as well as having that something..

Of course, subjective and personal to many..

Conor a star to many. No issue there..

I see you just admitted he was a star here.

http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=104101598&postcount=2756

So you were/are on a wind up.

Wheeliebin30

Call Me Jimmy wrote: »

One thing I'm very interested in is when he spars against the best boxers he has. By that time it will be clear to his team (and him) what exactly is going to go down. Unless he definitively gives these guys trouble, Kavanagh and Roddy will know before the fight that its going to be an absolute ****show. But during that time the build up will continue and Conor and the boys will be talking it up and people will be spending their hard earned cash. I wonder will there be a feeling of remorse if it is going badly and they are lying about sparring etc.

Just a thought, a lot of people will say 'we already know its going to be a ****show and anyone who doesn't is a fool' but I still think the team will be in a wierd position having to flat out lie about things. Just going by the conventional wisdom, that is how it will play out.

Was just reading earlier some boxer saying he was already knocked out in sparring.

Outlaw Pete

Seems going by old videos like this from late 2012 (just before the Buchinger fight) that boxing was still something McGregor used in training..... just punching bag work for the cameras perhaps but interesting nonetheless.

Mad how quiet and focused he seems here too.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V30jKXa-sz0

walshb

Mellor wrote: »

Your a gas man Walshy. You've already redefined sport to your own agenda, now you're having a go at star.
Your scale for stardom is odd. I've no issue with not using it for reality TV knobs. But trying to argue that one of the most famous sports figures (right now) is a tough sell imo.

Personally I'd say the Beatles, Michael Jackson, Dempsey, Ali, George Best etc are Legends, not just stars.
One Direction, Canelo, Ronalo are stars, but not a legends.
McGregor is a star on the same scale as the above. But not a legend like the previous.

Fair points..

I suppose the best way to describe my view would be Andy Murray.

A favourite of mine. Cheer him over anyone else.

Well known, globally known, excellent at his sport, world successful at his sport.

For me he is not a star. Just a tennis player who is famous and successful..

Stars to me are much rarer..

It's a mix of several things, as well as having that something..

Of course, subjective and personal to many..

Conor a star to many. No issue there..

Outlaw Pete

Dana calls Floyd a racist.... in 2012.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7TwYEnMFniA

I actually seen that sushi video (had forgotten about it) and in it Floyd says he's gonna chop Paq up and eat him with some dogs and cats.

Depp

Dozyart wrote: »

That's some cringey sh1t right there!!

Its some twitter sjw nobody looking for attention, dont give it to him

Dozyart

jimmynokia wrote: »

FFS https://twitter.com/soundmigration/status/885858776334704641

That's some cringey sh1t right there!!

jimmynokia

FFS https://twitter.com/soundmigration/status/885858776334704641

Depp

Zero-Cool wrote: »

This is crazy! Guy makes his own passes and follows May weather crew into the arena. Ends up backstage walking out with Conor and staying ringside the whole time. Someone is getting fired over this.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8PL1BC1s8CQ

If you're seeing this john please show it to conor, need an answer to that question! ballsy performance by yer man though!

Mellor

walshb wrote: »

There's no proving right or wrong here..

I don't think he is a star...

End of..

Separate note, anyone hear that 70 euro the price for PPV here..

Your a gas man Walshy. You've already redefined sport to your own agenda, now you're having a go at star.
Your scale for stardom is odd. I've no issue with not using it for reality TV knobs. But trying to argue that one of the most famous sports figures (right now) is a tough sell imo.

Personally I'd say the Beatles, Michael Jackson, Dempsey, Ali, George Best etc are Legends, not just stars.
One Direction, Canelo, Ronalo are stars, but not a legends.
McGregor is a star on the same scale as the above. But not a legend like the previous.

zuutroy

Absolute state of the Irish people in that video.

Paully D

Zero-Cool wrote: »

This is crazy! Guy makes his own passes and follows May weather crew into the arena. Ends up backstage walking out with Conor and staying ringside the whole time. Someone is getting fired over this.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8PL1BC1s8CQ

This actually happens far more often than we'd think. Couple of guys did it at the Super Bowl back in February too by printing off media credentials.

Zero-Cool

This is crazy! Guy makes his own passes and follows May weather crew into the arena. Ends up backstage walking out with Conor and staying ringside the whole time. Someone is getting fired over this.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8PL1BC1s8CQ

gilmour

Call Me Jimmy wrote: »

One thing I'm very interested in is when he spars against the best boxers he has. By that time it will be clear to his team (and him) what exactly is going to go down. Unless he definitively gives these guys trouble, Kavanagh and Roddy will know before the fight that its going to be an absolute ****show. But during that time the build up will continue and Conor and the boys will be talking it up and people will be spending their hard earned cash. I wonder will there be a feeling of remorse if it is going badly and they are lying about sparring etc.

Just a thought, a lot of people will say 'we already know its going to be a ****show and anyone who doesn't is a fool' but I still think the team will be in a wierd position having to flat out lie about things. Just going by the conventional wisdom, that is how it will play out.

Funny you bring that up, it came into my head this morning that i remember Kavanagh talking about how Floyd is his favourite (or one of them) fighter to watch and study on twitter about 2 years ago. So does that give Conor an edge having someone who knows every single move, or does it as you suggest, make him think that this is beyond one step too far after seeing what Conor is like in sparring?

I remember another clip of Conor on youtube in or around the Pacquiao fight talking about how masterful Floyd is and that he believes he cannot be beaten in boxing, that it wasnt the sport he could be beat in.

Edit: Link to tweet https://twitter.com/john_kavanagh/status/594825057865703424

.ak

Call Me Jimmy wrote: »

One thing I'm very interested in is when he spars against the best boxers he has. By that time it will be clear to his team (and him) what exactly is going to go down. Unless he definitively gives these guys trouble, Kavanagh and Roddy will know before the fight that its going to be an absolute ****show. But during that time the build up will continue and Conor and the boys will be talking it up and people will be spending their hard earned cash. I wonder will there be a feeling of remorse if it is going badly and they are lying about sparring etc.

Just a thought, a lot of people will say 'we already know its going to be a ****show and anyone who doesn't is a fool' but I still think the team will be in a wierd position having to flat out lie about things. Just going by the conventional wisdom, that is how it will play out.

The team are just as driven as Conor, I think they'll be looking to win this and won't be put off by stuff like this. I think that's where the pro refs will come in, Conor is more than likely going to try and disrupt mayweather by bending as many rules as possible and hoping to get him to over extend at some point. He knows he won't win in a straight up stand and trade, he'll miss one or two and be in deep water if he does. I expect a load of clinching and head clashes and throws, I expect Conor to build rapport with the ref too, and let mayweather get frustrated with the ref.

veganrun

Have they announced yet how you can watch this? I'm assuming it will be Sky Box Office?

Call Me Jimmy

One thing I'm very interested in is when he spars against the best boxers he has. By that time it will be clear to his team (and him) what exactly is going to go down. Unless he definitively gives these guys trouble, Kavanagh and Roddy will know before the fight that its going to be an absolute ****show. But during that time the build up will continue and Conor and the boys will be talking it up and people will be spending their hard earned cash. I wonder will there be a feeling of remorse if it is going badly and they are lying about sparring etc.

Just a thought, a lot of people will say 'we already know its going to be a ****show and anyone who doesn't is a fool' but I still think the team will be in a wierd position having to flat out lie about things. Just going by the conventional wisdom, that is how it will play out.

sonofenoch

Noticed Snr seemed to have been pulled after the first presser, wasn't even on the stage for the next 3 ........taking too much of the limelight away from junior ?

LionelNashe

wonderfullife wrote: »

............
George Lockhart went on record this week saying Conor will be weighing 159lbs on fight night, that they're specifically keeping him within 5lbs of the limit to perform at his best. Whether that is the truth or misdirection I don't know........

That's interesting. With him not having fought at 145 in ages I was expecting that he would have built himself up more, do a big cut pre-fight to get down to 155, and then go into the ring with 10 pounds more muscle than Mayweather.

Whelo79

everlast75 wrote: »

One of my mates contacted me and said Conor is on Sky News giving a press conference and apologising??

To absolutely fookin nobody. The champ champ does what he wants!

everlast75

One of my mates contacted me and said Conor is on Sky News giving a press conference and apologising??

wonderfullife

StringerBell wrote: »

I'm not sure Mayweather needs to go for the kill so much as just wait till Conor gets tired and let nature take its course, he won't need to up his abysmal offensive output too much to get a stoppage with a sustained burst after McGregor has blown himself out.

Out of interest, how are you so certain Conor will gas out?

Obviously he gassed against Nate Diaz both fights at 170lbs, doing much better the second time around.

But at 145lbs and 155lbs do we have any evidence he has a cardio problem?

He looked fresh as a daisy after 15 minutes with Holloway and I didn't see any noticeable warning signs against Eddie after 8 minutes.

I'm just throwing it out there we don't have any concrete evidence he gasses at the lower weights.

George Lockhart went on record this week saying Conor will be weighing 159lbs on fight night, that they're specifically keeping him within 5lbs of the limit to perform at his best. Whether that is the truth or misdirection I don't know.

But I do know we've never seen Conor gas at the lower weights and he's been doing a boat load of cardio work this year.

StringerBell

I'm not sure Mayweather needs to go for the kill so much as just wait till Conor gets tired and let nature take its course, he won't need to up his abysmal offensive output too much to get a stoppage with a sustained burst after McGregor has blown himself out.

jigglypuffstuff

Mean Laqueefa wrote: »

Jayus

https://twitter.com/Jordan_Coombe/status/886174883985707008

And the devolution of humanity continues....

gormdubhgorm

Swashbuckler wrote: »

I felt the same after the Aldo tour. I just don't think these multi city, multi day tours do it for me. Only so much sh*t talk you can tolerate. And this one especially I found very forced.

It's always forced, there is just more of it!

Swashbuckler

dulux99 wrote:

Jaysus lads I don't know about ye but having watched all of the four press conferences and all the interviews afterwards, I feel like I need to go about six months before I can watch anything mcgregor related again. It's been so nonstop and intense. Not sure did they intend for these press conferences to have that kind of effect on people!

I felt the same after the Aldo tour. I just don't think these multi city, multi day tours do it for me. Only so much sh*t talk you can tolerate. And this one especially I found very forced.

Django99

wonderfullife wrote: »

Steve Bunce take on the fight on his radio show:

"Mayweather will do whatever he wants with him - and to him - but Floyd loves himself and he loves showing off so I expect he will make a point of stretching it out the full 12 rounds".

Basically his argument is Mayweather could KO Conor in the 1st Round if he truly wanted to but for him "showing off" isn't in knocking his opponent unconscious it's in getting maximum air-time to flaunt his skills.

I would agree with Bunce for the most part, not the 1st round as I think McGregor has a great chin and enough skills to last a few minutes, but I do think if Mayweather really went for the kill 5 rounds is the most McGregor could hope for.

However I'm leaning more towards a decision on the basis Mayweather hasn't gone for the kill for a while now, and a finish doesn't have any more upside for him than a points win.