wonderfullife wrote: » You're pretty adept at not answering questions I'll give you that much. What's your definition of a star? How do you decide that a 54-6-9 boxer in Jack Dempsey was a star? Is Floyd a star now? Actually just answer the definition part.
walshb wrote: » Depends on what you view as a star... Being known does not mean being a star.. A star is, or at least should be reserved for stars! It's the most bandied around misused term.. Conor does not come close to being a star. Same way many others being labelled stars don't.
walshb wrote: » Muhammad Ali, Jack Dempsey, Carl Lewis, Ayrton Senna, Babe Ruth... Elvis, Marlon Brando, Jimmy Stewart.. Michael Jackson, The Beatles... You always hear it bandied about... Movie star, Colin Farrell...yeh right.. Conor is a famous UFC fighter. End of.. Dumming down the term star doesn't change that..
everlast75 wrote: » Thought you said there was no comparison?
walshb wrote: » Nothing to do with Conor.. It's society today and how easily impressed we are.. Plenty plenty more examples of known people that in my estimation are never stars.. Floyd? Yes. Most definitely if we are going by some of your examples.. Floyd is a career great, ATG in a sport far more established and culturally significant and historically significant and everything else.. Undefeated across 5 weights spanning 20 years.. In comparison to Conor there is simply no comparison.
Mean Laqueefa wrote: » Dumbest **** i seen a while
walshb wrote: » See, that'S why you just won't get it.. Quoting a boxing record for Jack Dempsey and wondering how he is and was a stars Stars are generally born, not created. Similar to style and class. It's just there with some people.
walshb wrote: » At least your detailed rebuttal cleared it up.
walshb wrote: » See, that'S why you just won't get it.. Quoting a boxing record for Jack Dempsey and wondering how he is and was a star. Stars are generally born, not created. Similar to style and class. It's just there with some people.
wonderfullife wrote: » Do you ever answer the question you are asked? You keep saying Conor is not a star but I've asked twice now for your personal definition of a star, so I can see why he doesn't fit into it. You're now focusing on Floyd's in-ring achievements yet you also cited Jack Dempsey as a star who had a record that included 6 losses and 9 draws. What's your definition of a star then?
The Moldy Gowl wrote: » So when they were babies they were stars. Ok.
walshb wrote: » See, that'S why you just won't get it.. Quoting a boxing record for Jack Dempsey and wondering how he is and was a star.Stars are generally born, not created. Similar to style and class. It's just there with some people.
wonderfullife wrote: » What? You *literally* 2 mins ago cited Floyd's 49-0 record as a reason he is a star and now you're telling me Jack Dempsey's record has nothing to do with him being a star... I'm enjoying the mental gymnastics you're performing to try rule out Conor being a star but I still want to hear you say a *definition*.
Sofiztikated wrote: » Utter nonsense, and an insult to all those you listed as stars, as well as Conor. Each one of them worked hard to be the best in their relevant professions.
walshb wrote: » Yes, I quoted his record. It's part of his legacy. Key word, part! Same way Dempsey's record is part of his. Not all. You really do jump in without thinking.
walshb wrote: » An icon, legend, those who will live on long after death. Culturally huge. Popular huge, and a few other definitions. Anyway, pointless explaining to you. You will never understand. I have never bandied around the term. So before sulking this nothing against Conor.
Depp wrote: » have you explained why conor is not a star or your personal definition is yet though? or do you have one? be interesting to hear this one now
walshb wrote: » Conor to date has not come close to what I label star. Not sure why that is difficult to understand for some, or why it seems to offend some.. What's with the sensitivity here? I could list so many others that are being called stars that I find bewildering.
Sofiztikated wrote: » star stɑː/Submit noun noun: star; plural noun: stars; noun: fixed star; plural noun: fixed stars; noun: wandering star; plural noun: wandering stars 3. a very famous or talented entertainer or sports player. "a sport star" synonyms: principal, leading lady, leading man, lead, female lead, male lead, hero, heroine More antonyms: extra, nobody an outstandingly successful person or thing in a group. "he's a rising star in the party"vstar Famous. Check. Talented. Check. Sports player. Check
everlast75 wrote: » No problem. List anyone that has achieved as much in sport, broken so many records, has such notoriety, is so recognisable, has the likes of Arnie and Stallone calling into his training camps at such a young age that is not a star. Go for it... I'm waiting
walshb wrote: » Like I said. Being known, well known, even hugely known is not what it's all about.. Star to you? Fine.. No beef from me.. I don't see it..
JoseJones wrote: » What's your definition of a star?
walshb wrote: » Good for you. Out comes the dictionary.. There's a little more depth to me.
walshb wrote: » Read back...
gormdubhgorm wrote: » Conor Mcgregor has it all worked out. Work hard at the MMA get in good shape Play the internet create hype - he is up there with the like's of woman's 'celebrity' hype like the Kardashians, Lady Gaga and Madonna! Fight a novelty fight get all sorts of eejits interested - win or lose it will increase his market value. Make piles of money and re-tire. I never really understood the power of the amount that the sh*te talk could have. It is up there with the WWF type stuff. But that is what draws people in and makes the money. McGregor will be giving talks on marketing in universities for years to come. He will be the case study on how to create hype and money from nothing.
