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PGA Championship gone from Sky

ForeRight

Possibly going to be showed across the internet and not on TV at all

What a shambles

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Armchair Andy

ForeRight wrote:

So the BBC go and get the rights to the US PGA a year after wanting to get away from showing their national open championship.

It's all politics. Money doesnt come into it when you've stubborn pricks at the table.

Deeper Blue

levitronix wrote: »

How much will they is the question because the athletics will be on

Will be on the red button until 10:30 each night apparently

ForeRight

So the BBC go and get the rights to the US PGA a year after wanting to get away from showing their national open championship.

This is all getting more and more bizarre as it goes on

levitronix

How much will they is the question because the athletics will be on

red ears

KevIRL wrote: »

BBC have gotten it

Have you anything more on that?

fred funk }{

KevIRL wrote: »

BBC have gotten it

Wow..That's something.

KevIRL

BBC have gotten it

callaway92

Richard Hillman wrote: »

With the likes of Facebook, YouTube, Twitter etc on the scene there is a new platform that can get them back to the viewing figures of yesteryear but with increased TV money.

The reason why the likes of BBC, ITV et al cannot show free to air sport is because their regional market isn't big enough to compete with PPV. The U.S have all major sports on Free to Air because they have a big enough market. Selling the rights on a global scale that is Free to Air, gives the likes of the PGA huge viewership and the online companies can pay the big bucks because they can sell ads at an astronomical fee.

You see the prices of Superbowl ads (5 million for 30seconds) because they have 100million watching. Open up the market to global viewing figures and that 5 million will be an obscene price.

PPV and Subscription TV is done. It has no long term future in a global market.

For PPV, Have a look at recent UFC/Boxing numbers on that and come back to me.

loadwire

Righthammer wrote: »

Looks like twitter may be the new media they are talking about...

https://www.ft.com/content/05e69a2c-6a13-11e7-bfeb-33fe0c5b7eaa?mhq5j=e3

I had a feeling that might be it. I noticed they had a wimbledon stream while it was on.

Seve OB

Richard Hillman wrote: »

With the likes of Facebook, YouTube, Twitter etc on the scene there is a new platform that can get them back to the viewing figures of yesteryear but with increased TV money.

The reason why the likes of BBC, ITV et al cannot show free to air sport is because their regional market isn't big enough to compete with PPV. The U.S have all major sports on Free to Air because they have a big enough market. Selling the rights on a global scale that is Free to Air, gives the likes of the PGA huge viewership and the online companies can pay the big bucks because they can sell ads at an astronomical fee.

You see the prices of Superbowl ads (5 million for 30seconds) because they have 100million watching. Open up the market to global viewing figures and that 5 million will be an obscene price.

PPV and Subscription TV is done. It has no long term future in a global market.

I take it you are one of these millenial dudes we are hearing about these days

Richard Hillman

With the likes of Facebook, YouTube, Twitter etc on the scene there is a new platform that can get them back to the viewing figures of yesteryear but with increased TV money.

The reason why the likes of BBC, ITV et al cannot show free to air sport is because their regional market isn't big enough to compete with PPV. The U.S have all major sports on Free to Air because they have a big enough market. Selling the rights on a global scale that is Free to Air, gives the likes of the PGA huge viewership and the online companies can pay the big bucks because they can sell ads at an astronomical fee.

You see the prices of Superbowl ads (5 million for 30seconds) because they have 100million watching. Open up the market to global viewing figures and that 5 million will be an obscene price.

PPV and Subscription TV is done. It has no long term future in a global market.

Mountjoy Mugger

CBS have US rights.

Dirty Dingus McGee

Righthammer wrote: »

Looks like twitter may be the new media they are talking about...

https://www.ft.com/content/05e69a2c-6a13-11e7-bfeb-33fe0c5b7eaa?mhq5j=e3

if it's exclusively on twitter only then that's really a stupid move particularly considering the age profile of golf fans.Considering it is definitely the 4th of the 4th majors how exactly does it help the tournament by making it even harder to watch.

Righthammer

Looks like twitter may be the new media they are talking about...

https://www.ft.com/content/05e69a2c-6a13-11e7-bfeb-33fe0c5b7eaa?mhq5j=e3

valoren

On the new way of consuming golf, one thing I love is the PGA Tours extended highlights.

It is basically a 10 minute official youtube video of a players round with no commentary that shows 99% of their shots.
They usually focus on the big names for the first two rounds then provide highlights for the leaders on the weekend.
I find it much more appealing than sitting through 5 hours of coverage (analysis, adverts, some golf).

e.g.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BFpzUoB2A4A

Senna

I can see why they think a big change is required, since Tigers demise viewership and attendance at events have dropped off.
The future is online content, I would be happy to pay for that content, but I won't pay for sky sports as I watch very little sport other than golf.
Maybe they will look for terrestial contracts and take the revenue loss? It goes against everything they have did in the past, but maybe?

martinkop

Any one think they are just holding out for more money off Sky???
Very late to announce this, you'd imagine all these contracts are sorted months before an event

Minderbinder

red ears wrote: »

Have these companies not learned anything from the explosion of illegal streaming devices. People aren't willing to pay too much money for sport anymore. They need to be making it more affordable to bring people back to legitimate set ups. Not many people are going to pay for a couple of platforms to view all the golf. I hope the PGA make a wise decision on who gets the rights.

Watching golf on a normal laptop screen is not appealing. It really requires a big screen. I realise that you can watch online content on a tv if you have the right sort of tv but I still think that is limiting the audience further. Do they really know their target audience?

red ears

Have these companies not learned anything from the explosion of illegal streaming devices. People aren't willing to pay too much money for sport anymore. They need to be making it more affordable to bring people back to legitimate set ups. Not many people are going to pay for a couple of platforms to view all the golf. I hope the PGA make a wise decision on who gets the rights.

CMOTDibbler

Dirty Dingus McGee wrote: »

Only if the alternative is Free to Air TV.Not really good if a sport gets split between rival pay tv companies as that just screws the fans as they're forced to pay 2 subscriptions to view what they want.

That's exactly what happened with the Heineken Cup that was. Split between Sky and BT and viewership has dropped like a stone.

Possibly may never recover from that.

valoren

As the PGA of America are involved in the Ryder Cup of which Sky have been our broadcaster here would there be a trickle down effect on that perhaps?

red ears

Dirty Dingus McGee wrote: »

Only if the alternative is Free to Air TV.Not really good if a sport gets split between rival pay tv companies as that just screws the fans as they're forced to pay 2 subscriptions to view what they want.

Yeah viewership will drop if two operators have it. say sky with the European tour and some other company with the PGA tour.

Dirty Dingus McGee

Armchair Andy wrote: »

The less total control Sky have over the Majors the better imo. Any sources?

Only if the alternative is Free to Air TV.Not really good if a sport gets split between rival pay tv companies as that just screws the fans as they're forced to pay 2 subscriptions to view what they want.

red ears

I hope its not offered on a pay streaming service, unless you have great broadband you are going to have problems with freezing and even if you have good broadband it can drop from time to time. Maybe one of the red button options on the likes BBC might work.

Dirty Dingus McGee

Minderbinder wrote: »

They're saying they want to attract more people to the game so why not have it on the BBC or other terrestrial channels?

The Masters would never have been as popular in Europe had it not been on terrestrial tv. Look at what has happened to the FA Cup since Sky and others started showing it.

By the tone of the article and one I've seen in the independent today it doesn't sound like that, it sounds like some sort of partnership with netflix or one of those types of companies and you pay for access.Hope that's not the case as I think limiting anything to an on-line only platform is even worse than having it on a subscription TV channel.

Minderbinder

Tyson Fury wrote: »

Minderbinder wrote: »

Also boxing is another example. It was a hugely popular sport but now who gives a f**k.

Boxing is extremely popular now, arguably more so than in the last 20 years.

I don't think so. It's a popular niche sport but it's no longer mainstream.

Mantis Toboggan

Minderbinder wrote: »

Also boxing is another example. It was a hugely popular sport but now who gives a f**k.

Boxing is extremely popular now, arguably more so than in the last 20 years.

Adiaga 2

Not the biggest fan of Sky as an entity but I'm more than happy for them to have a monopoly on golf. The terrestrial channels don't want it( certainly in UK and Ireland). So the alternative would be to have some rubbish outfit like setanta/b t sport/ei r sports take a piece and charge for it?

From the Guardian article and the PGA of America guy's mention of "platforms", it will surely be available online. I just hope it's not some sort of facebook partnership.

Definitely embarrassing for Sky though.

First Up

So where do we watch it?

Minderbinder

Also boxing is another example. It was a hugely popular sport but now who gives a f**k.