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Fight Time From 4am-McGregor vs MayweatherMOD Warning in 1st Post

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So, this is looking more likely to be on the cards sooner rather than later...

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/boxing/38591420

Any opinion on who would win this potential fight?

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Frank Bullitt

Great viewing.

Maravilla33

Read that, that Schaub guy has 100k on McGregor so at least he is putting his money where his mouth is. Hope it's money he can afford to lose.

He keeps coming back to MMA reasons for McGregor having a chance. Also said that it took Lomachenko rounds to figure out TJ Dillashaw. Loma toyed with him, was barely tapping him and landed at will.

Mellor

walshb wrote: »

Whether it's put on or not one can judge him on it..

I believe a lot of if it is forced and contrived, but that doesn't preclude me from making a call on him.

Even if you are hamming something up and acting a bit, you are still voluntarily behaving.

For me it mostly comes across as cringe and embarrassing behaviour.

By all means judge him (or anyone) on his actions.

But I was getting at people calling fake, but then turning around are pretending to take it at face value to suit an agenda.
Not aiming at at every critic btw

Frank Bullitt

Maravilla33 wrote: »

Read that, that Schaub guy has 100k on McGregor so at least he is putting his money where his mouth is. Hope it's money he can afford to lose.

He keeps coming back to MMA reasons for McGregor having a chance. Also said that it took Lomachenko rounds to figure out TJ Dillashaw. Loma toyed with him, was barely tapping him and landed at will.

I like Schuab, but lately he has lost it.

The Loma video is a joke as well, he wasn't even trying. And he keeps referencing the video of Conor and Chris sparring saying that its not real to reference and stuff.

There doesn't seem to be any middle ground in this fight between fans.

I actually think this fight will stink and be boring, the excitement and build up will be worth it but after that I honestly think the fight itself will a bit tame.

If Conor stands as a boxer to him, he won't have a hope, if he goes awkward then it will be interesting for a few rounds maybe. Unfortunately he is up against Mayweather, and for all the confidence that McGregor has, you can multiply it for Mayweather.

Don't be surprised to fall asleep during this.

ThinkProgress

Gintonious wrote: »

Great viewing.

Great viewing, like, as a stand-up comedy act...??

Brendan Scaub is embarrassing tbh... There's nothing between his ears, except hot air!

Shameless hype-merchant, masquerading as a serious analyst...

This thing is becoming part sport, part X factor!!!

Mellor

Gintonious wrote: »

There doesn't seem to be any middle ground in this fight between fans.

Do you really think so?
It appears to me that most people have a really reasonable view of this things. There's a small few crazy opinions, and a small few trolling.

I actually think this fight will stink and be boring, the excitement and build up will be worth it but after that I honestly think the fight itself will a bit tame.

If Conor stands as a boxer to him, he won't have a hope, if he goes awkward then it will be interesting for a few rounds maybe. Unfortunately he is up against Mayweather, and for all the confidence that McGregor has, you can multiply it for Mayweather.

Don't be surprised to fall asleep during this.

Agree with most of this. The build up will be more interesting. The fight will struggle to live up to it.

There's no way Conor can beat him as a tradoptional boxer, an unorthodox approach allows him some sort of early Hail Mary window. When it closes, it's closed for the night.

Kinda glad I don't have to stay up all night to catch it though. Can see it being underwhelming.

normanoffside

walshb wrote: »

Please, for the sake of sanity do no use Conor and Ali together for any type of comparisons....

A more apt comparison would be Tyson Fury

Sweet Science

Mellor wrote: »

Do you really think so?
It appears to me that most people have a really reasonable view of this things. There's a small few crazy opinions, and a small few trolling.

Agree with most of this. The build up will be more interesting. The fight will struggle to live up to it.

There's no way Conor can beat him as a tradoptional boxer, an unorthodox approach allows him some sort of early Hail Mary window. When it closes, it's closed for the night.

Kinda glad I don't have to stay up all night to catch it though. Can see it being underwhelming.

I have no issue with anyone thinking this . It's a logical argument for someone looking for a way Conor can win could say . The other stuff people are spouting are crazy

Syphonax

walshb wrote: »

There is nothing remotely obvious linking them other than the term combat sport!

ehh Thats was the point i was making

Frank Bullitt

ThinkProgress wrote: »

Great viewing, like, as a stand-up comedy act...??

Brendan Scaub is embarrassing tbh... There's nothing between his ears, except hot air!

Shameless hype-merchant, masquerading as a serious analyst...

This thing is becoming part sport, part X factor!!!

He also said that McGregor is fast and hits harder than Canelo...

Here is common sense leaving Schuab during one of his last fights

Outlaw Pete

ThinkProgress wrote: »

So, you think he should fight defensively... but also fight like Hatton, who was offensive??

Frustrate him... but also put him under pressure...!?

I reasoned this and described how that could be achieved. Why are you ignoring it?

Again: Hatton was far too 'gung-ho'. He almost knocked himself out at one point. I believe Conor should wait for Mayweather to bring the fight to him, perhaps even run from him Floyd a bit early on, fight defensively (play Floyd at his own game) mixed with some counter punching but nothing which would mean that he would have to get too close Floyd. The pressure is on Mayweather in this fight and I think he will be will be more offensive here than we have seen him in any fight before.

If McGregor stands back and isn't offensive to begin with then I think that will make Mayweather think McGregor doesn't have all that much to offer and walk him down.......... THEN I think Conor should unleash like Hatton. I think this kind of awkward mix will frustrate Floyd as he won't know what McGregor will do next and we know that is one area which Floyd has exploited down the years, his ability to read what fighters are gonna do next.

Worth remembering also that Hatton only had a 65" reach whereas McGregor's is 74". So even if McGregor does try and do what Hatton did (in gung ho fashion) he would be far better equipped given that he wouldn't have to get anywhere near as close as Hatton did to do so.

Syphonax wrote: »

....... Ali was actually funny, McGregor just comes across as a knob-end.

Bit of both would be my call...... knob head at times for sure...... but lots of funny moments from him too.

Presser due to start at 9pm. YouTube stream here:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=npJdeoYxYGs

Maravilla33

Outlaw Pete wrote: »

I reasoned this and described how that could be achieved. Why are you ignoring it?

Again: Hatton was far too 'gung-ho'. He almost knocked himself out at one point. I believe Conor should wait for Mayweather to bring the fight to him, perhaps even run from him Floyd a bit early on, fight defensively (play Floyd at his own game) mixed with some counter punching but nothing which would mean that he would have to get too close Floyd. The pressure is on Mayweather in this fight and I think he will be will be more offensive here than we have seen him in any fight before.

If McGregor stands back and isn't offensive to begin with then I think that will make Mayweather think McGregor doesn't have all that much to offer and walk him down.......... THEN I think Conor should unleash like Hatton. I think this kind of awkward mix will frustrate Floyd as he won't know what McGregor will do next and we know that is one area which Floyd has exploited down the years, his ability to read what fighters are gonna do next.

Worth remembering also that Hatton only had a 65" reach whereas McGregor's is 74". So even if McGregor does try and do what Hatton did (in gung ho fashion) he would be far better equipped given that he wouldn't have to get anywhere near as close as Hatton did to do so.

I'm confused. So he needs to fight like Hatton, but not too much like him and throw in some counter punching (very unlike Hatton) and it will all knit together because he's miles bigger than Hatton anyway?

The same Hatton that was dominated by Mayweather despite being a) a boxer and b) a great pressure fighter. McGregor's footwork is going to be all over the shop and he's going to look clumsy here. Say what you want about Hatton but he was a decent pressure fighter and was able to cut of the ring far better than McGregor ever will.

Outlaw Pete

Maravilla33 wrote: »

I'm confused. So he needs to fight like Hatton, but not too much like him..........

Yup, exactly...... fight like Hatton at certain times in the fight. Hatton started the fight like a bull in a china shop. I don't think that is a good idea as it puts all your eggs in one basket as it were and and that would just play into Mayweather's hands given that one of (if not his greatest) assets of his is to be able to time and predict what fighters will do next.

...and throw in some counter punching (very unlike Hatton)

When fighting defensively (as I feel he should be very early doors) yes, of course.

...and it will all knit together because he's miles bigger than Hatton anyway?

It's not about it "knitting together". Quite the contrary in fact. As like I said, Conor needs to (in my view at least) fight as unpredictably as he can.

The same Hatton that was dominated by Mayweather despite being a) a boxer and b) a great pressure fighter.

Yes, this is why I feel Conor has three rounds and if he doesn't manage to TKO Floyd then it will be a boxing clinic from that point on.

McGregor's footwork is going to be all over the shop and he's going to look clumsy here. Say what you want about Hatton but he was a decent pressure fighter and was able to cut of the ring far better than McGregor ever will.

Of course, he's a pro-fighter, goes without saying.

normanoffside

Am I reading this right; McGregor needs to fight defensively and at the same stage get Mayweather out of there inside 3 rounds?

Comparing Hatton to McGregor in any way is ridiculous as Hatton was a world Class professional boxer.

Gamebred

@OutlawPete as head of Mac on boards what is your actual prediciton? you seem to be giving plenty of game plans yet no substance, please give your fight prediction without sitting on the fence? apologies if I missed it

walshb

And stop getting pis$ed when people laugh at your plans for Conor in this fight and when we tell it how it really is and really will be, that is Conor getting brutally exposed and dominated with relative ease.

It won't be close after 3/6 or 9 rds if Floyd does his stuff.....It will be a whitewash....

Boxing: Floyd is faster/stronger/cleverer/tougher/harder hitting/more athletic/more resourceful/fitter and every other adjective you can think of....

stephenl15

walshb wrote: »

And stop getting pis$ed when people laugh at your plans for Conor in this fight and when we tell it how it really is and really will be, that is Conor getting brutally exposed and dominated with relative ease.

It won't be close after 3/6 or 9 rds if Floyd does his stuff.....It will be a whitewash....

Boxing: Floyd is faster/stronger/cleverer/tougher/harder hitting/more athletic/more resourceful/fitter and every other adjective you can think of....

I know you're a boxing guy and feel boxers with their superior technique makes them harder hitting, but he's not harder hitting than Conor in my opinion due to size, age, kos etc. And what makes you so sure he's tougher?

walshb

stephenl15 wrote: »

I know you're a boxing guy and feel boxers with their superior technique makes them harder hitting, but he's not harder hitting than Conor in my opinion due to size, age, kos etc. And what makes you so sure he's tougher?

I stressed boxing...

This is all boxing. Conor never having boxed pro before will not trump Floyd in any areas I mentioned.

If Floyd does his work then Conor will be in for a world of embarrassment and tiredness and hurt....for however long it lasts..

The Reservoir Dubs Anchorman

walshb wrote: »

I stressed boxing...

This is all boxing. Conor never having boxed pro before will not trump Floyd in any areas I mentioned.

If Floyd does his work then Conor will be in for a world of embarrassment and tiredness and hurt....for however long it lasts..

Stop with the If's , Floyd will work like he always does prefight. He knows no other way. He's the best because he wants it more than anyone else and that includes McGregor.

But one thing I wouldn't say Floyd is more athletic that McGregor, its the only thing I disagree with you on in that previous statement.

Outlaw Pete

normanoffside wrote: »

Am I reading this right..

No.

McGregor needs to fight defensively and at the same stage get Mayweather out of there inside 3 round s.

Eh, I quite clearly said that I imo McGregor should only fight defensively "VERY EARLY ON" (I even underlined it) and wait for Mayweather to take the fight to him..... before unleashing on him much like Hatton did AFTER giving him a false sense of security by being defensive and only throwing counter punches to begin with. That's what I mean by frustrating Mayweather. MCGregor needs to be anything but predictable in there for reasons already stated. He also has that reach advantage and so whenever he does choose to unleash.... he won't have to get anywhere near to Mayweather as Ricky did.

Gamebred wrote: »

@OutlawPete as head of Mac on boards what is your actual prediciton? you seem to be giving plenty of game plans yet no substance, please give your fight prediction without sitting on the fence? apologies if I missed it

I gave the fight prediction many times.

He wins by TKO in the first three or he gets a boxing clinic if it goes past that stage.

walshb wrote: »

And stop getting pis$ed when...

I'm not pissed. Well, not yet. Might be later. Few drinks watching the presser, maybe a curry.

It won't be close after 3/6 or 9 rds if Floyd does his stuff.....It will be a whitewash....

I know. Said the same all along. Glad we agree on something.

Boxing: Floyd is faster/stronger/cleverer/tougher/harder hitting/more athletic/more resourceful/fitter and every other adjective you can think of....

Aye, which is why I think McGregor has only a "slim chance" of winning and that he needs to try and frustrate and confuse Floyd by fighting in an unpredictable way.

Sweet Science

The Reservoir Dubs Anchorman wrote: »

Stop with the If's , Floyd will work like he always does prefight. He knows no other way. He's the best because he wants it more than anyone else and that includes McGregor.

But one thing I wouldn't say Floyd is more athletic that McGregor, its the only thing I disagree with you on in that previous statement.

Athletic in a general sense no . Boxing wise he is . He is conditioned for 12 rounds of boxing the last 21 years . Conor is not and I have my doubts he will have anything left if it made it passed the 6th

Gamebred

Outlaw Pete wrote: »

I gave the fight prediction many times.

He wins by TKO in the first three or he gets a boxing clinic if it goes past that stage.

Ah so you're another one sitting on the fence with that ''or'', its one or the other hes gonna win or hes not stop trying to play both sides and commit to a prediction.

Sweet Science

The Reservoir Dubs Anchorman wrote: »

Stop with the If's , Floyd will work like he always does prefight. He knows no other way. He's the best because he wants it more than anyone else and that includes McGregor.

But one thing I wouldn't say Floyd is more athletic that McGregor, its the only thing I disagree with you on in that previous statement.

the whole year inn

As much 'Class' Ali had he was by no means a Saint either, cheated on his wife's, had affairs and children with those women.
He's a legend in my eyes but let's not kid our self's either.

walshb

The Reservoir Dubs Anchorman wrote: »

Stop with the If's , Floyd will work like he always does prefight. He knows no other way. He's the best because he wants it more than anyone else and that includes McGregor.

But one thing I wouldn't say Floyd is more athletic that McGregor, its the only thing I disagree with you on in that previous statement.

The ifs are necessary.

Plenty have a feeling, me included that this could be a pathetic 12 rds dance with very little actually happening....

As for athleticism: You will see in a boxing ring who is the more athletic.

Conor will look like an ironing board compared to Floyd in that ring...

walshb

Outlaw Pete wrote: »

I gave the fight prediction many times.

He wins by TKO in the first three or he gets a boxing clinic if it goes past that stage.

I'm not pissed. Well, not yet. Might be later. Few drinks watching the presser, maybe a curry.

I know. Said the same all along. Glad we agree on something.

Aye, which is why I think McGregor has only a "slim chance" of winning and that he needs to try and frustrate and confuse Floyd by fighting in an unpredictable way.

WTF, chief? Not even a sniff of hostility in your reply to my kind of baiting post....

+ 1

The Reservoir Dubs Anchorman

walshb wrote: »

The ifs are necessary.

Plenty have a feeling, me included that this could be a pathetic 12 rds dance with very little actually happening....

As for athleticism: You will see in a boxing ring who is the more athletic.

Conor will look like an ironing board compared to Floyd in that ring...

Maybe, I think your right with regards to the skills Mayweather has in the ring but I fully believe McGregor will actually train like a demon for this and will athletically anyway be able to go 12 rounds, whether he has the chin/guts to do so is another thing.

Sweet Science

I wonder if Floyd will tell him he can't tap out on August 26th at the presser

Outlaw Pete

Gamebred wrote: »

Ah so you're another one sitting on the fence with that ''or'', its one or the other hes gonna win or hes not stop trying to play both sides and commit to a prediction.

My prediction is that Floyd wins quite easily.

*But I give McGregor a slim chance of winning by TKO in the first three if he can manage to confuse Floyd with some early doors defensive fighting mishmashed with some sporadic Hatton esque onslaughts taking full advantage of his reach advantage as he does so.

walshb

The Reservoir Dubs Anchorman wrote: »

Maybe, I think your right with regards to the skills Mayweather has in the ring but I fully believe McGregor will actually train like a demon for this and will athletically anyway be able to go 12 rounds, whether he has the chin/guts to do so is another thing.

He could go 12 rds....all depends on how the fight unfolds.

If Floyd wants it slow and easy and comfy that is how it goes. Conor will have next to no say on how the fight flows unless Mayweather gives him a say.

Several different ways they approach the fight. None of us will know until the fight is in action.

The main thing being that in no way will Conor be able to manoeuvre or dictate how Floyd (without Floyd's consent) performs. No way. That would be the only thing that I would be close to certain on.