Jamie2k9 wrote: » 25 minutes not to bad but not ideal. Know people who flew to Malage recently and they took an hour to clear with two desks clearing IE/UK flights recently.
whelan2 wrote: » In fairness there were alot of desks open. Didn't expect to be delayed so long there at that time of the day. The woman in front of me recognised the woman in the booth and started talking about things to her. It's not the time or the place to have a chat with hundreds of tired people waiting behind you.
lxflyer wrote: » It is worth analysing the late night arrivals at Dublin, and it becomes clear that Ryanair do schedule their arrivals in a very concentrated period. Unlike Aer Lingus, whose short haul fleet (5 Aer Lingus Regional and 27 Aer Lingus aircraft) returns to their Dublin base over an extended period (21:30-01:30 last night) but who do have a large number of holiday destination arrivals at the end of the period, the entire Dublin based Ryanair fleet (28 aircraft) is scheduled to return over a two hour period from 22:00 to 00:00 - that's a lot of aircraft to process in any case, and if there are any delays on aircraft scheduled to arrive earlier that will put more pressure on the facilities. Last night the scheduled arrivals on stand after 21:00 were: T1 (100/200 gates): 21:00-21:59 - 3 Ryanair; 2 Cityjet; 1 British Airways 22:00-22:59 - 12 Ryanair; 1 KLM 23:00-23:59 - 16 Ryanair 00:00-00:59 - 1 Ryanair T1 (300 gates) 21:00-21:59 - 1 British Airways Cityflyer 22:00-22:59 - 1 Lufthansa 23:00-23:59 - 1 Air Moldova T2: 21:00-21:59 - 3 Aer Lingus Regional; 6 Aer Lingus 22:00-22:59 - 2 Aer Lingus Regional; 8 Aer Lingus 23:00-23:59 - 5 Aer Lingus 00:00-00:59 - 4 Aer Lingus 01:00-01:59 - 4 Aer Lingus That alone tells you that there is going to be pressure on the immigration facilities between 22:00 and 00:00 for Ryanair arrivals. They are concentrated on that period. Last night the actual arrivals were as follows (note this is touchdown time per FR24, as opposed to block time, i.e. engines shut down on stand: T1 (100/200 gates): 21:00-21:59 - 3 Ryanair; 1 Cityjet; 1 British Airways; 1 KLM 22:00-22:59 - 4 Ryanair; 23:00-23:59 - 14 Ryanair 00:00-00:59 - 9 Ryanair (all within 30 minutes of one another) T1 (300 gates) 21:00-21:59 - 1 British Airways Cityflyer 22:00-22:59 - 1 Air Moldova 23:00-23:59 - 1 Lufthansa T2: 21:00-21:59 - 3 Aer Lingus Regional; 2 Aer Lingus 22:00-22:59 - 2 Aer Lingus Regional; 7 Aer Lingus 23:00-23:59 - 8 Aer Lingus 00:00-00:59 - 5 Aer Lingus 01:00-01:59 - 5 Aer Lingus So if you want to avoid the risk of queues, the safest bet is to choose Ryanair flights that don't arrive between 22:00 and 00:00!
whelan2 wrote: » Our flight from Nice was delayed due to the terminal being evacuated and 2controlled explosions being done on abandoned luggage
veetwin wrote: » Arrived with Ryanair last night into T1 and it being a Friday night was expecting a serious wait. Breezed through with no wait at all. In fairness they seemed to have every booth open. No queue in the non EU either.
JCX BXC wrote: » What time? That plays a large part.
veetwin wrote: » Sorry yes you're right. Landed at 22.50 and hit passport control about 23.05
Hopefully as posters get the analysis and insights, they can see that the issues relate to infrastructure and airline operations not the organisation (and its staff) at whom the finger was pointed at various points during this thread.
trellheim wrote: » Partially true. INIS@Dublin are free to conduct their business just like other ports of entry like Connolly etc but do not do so. While further discussion of this will lead us back to banned CTA discussions , your assertion deserves challenge. There is no denying Lxf's analysis about volume but neither is it broken down by origin immigration area.
JCX BXC wrote: » 9 Ryanair arrivals between 10-12pm are CTA, it would be absurd to suggest this has no affect on the situation.
lxflyer wrote: » I really don't want to do re-open that debate to be honest, it just goes round and round in circles. While it is clearly annoying, I've not seen any indication that the checking of all passports at Irish airports is going to change anytime soon, and on that basis, I was looking at it realistically from a practical perspective as to what can be done? Either Ryanair could stagger their arrivals over a longer period (like Aer Lingus do), which I suspect is unlikely to happen, or (and I think this is the more realistic option) the DAA can do something about providing an adequately sized immigration hall with facilities that can meet the maximum scheduled number of arrivals in any hour from those gates.
Even if you took the CTA flights out, there would be queues - the basic issue is that the immigration hall can't cope with that volume of flights.
JCX BXC wrote: » Which I accept perfectly, and had your point only been that I'd have to agree This is what can't go unchallenged. 9 flights is a significant number to take out of passport control, and would likely drastically reduce queues. Of course there would still be queues, but 20 minutes is much shorter than 40 minutes!
lxflyer wrote: » Hang on - this isn't a court of law - I'm not trying to make a case here about the CTA - other people keep bringing it up. I just did that analysis off my own bat out of sheer curiosity to see how the flights were scheduled, and I decided to share it. Nothing more than that. Realistically, do you think there is no likelihood of them being taken out of passport control for the foreseeable future (irrespective of one's personal view on them)? Personally I don't see that changing - and that's the basis that we have to assess this - I'm purely looking at it from a practical perspective rather than bringing the politics into the equation.
JCX BXC wrote: » I'd guarantee that if this was a court of law, the challenges would be much harsher. I'd agree I can't see it changing for the foreseeable future, but you cannot write it off as it doesn't matter like you're currently doing, because it's quite clear it does matter and it does make a difference.
Irish Steve wrote: » Even on CTA flights, there are now significant numbers travelling that are not entitled to use the "benefit" of CTA, as they are not residents of the UK or Ireland, and not EU citizens, so in some cases they need a visa to enter Ireland. It is totally reasonable and acceptable to ensure that people entering Ireland are entitled to do so.
JCX BXC wrote: » My point is lxflyer, that you're simply saying it doesn't matter because it'll be busy anyway, which is a strange assertion to have. While it won't be removed for obvious political reasons (namely brexit as above), you cannot write it off as not mattering.
Even on CTA flights, there are now significant numbers travelling that are not entitled to use the "benefit" of CTA, as they are not residents of the UK or Ireland, and not EU citizens, so in some cases they need a visa to enter Ireland
killbillvol2 wrote: » Time to unfollow this thread. It's going round in circles.
