DEFTLEFTHAND wrote: » Anybody else worried about the legitimacy of this contest? Seems a lot like a pro wrestling storyline. They'd hardly predetermine/script the fight, no?
The Reservoir Dubs Anchorman wrote: » Rubbish, he hits way harder than Diaz and Diaz buckled McGregor a couple of times.
The Reservoir Dubs Anchorman wrote: » Would probably make sense for McGregor for it to be predetermined, so he doesn't get hurt and can go back to the UFC and continue to be the big man.
Ceniamo105 wrote: » No, no he doesn't. Diaz is over 6 foot and walks around at about 190 pounds with a 76 inch reach and decent and decent boxing skills. Don't be bloody ridiculous. Floyd hasn't gotten a proper KO in 10 years.
Too Tough To Die wrote: » That would be very illegal.
xtal191 wrote: » I really hate when people bring this up, yes its true he hasn't KO'd anyone since Hatton (I'm not including Ortiz) and everyone knows he's not the heaviest hitter but you gotta look at his opponents since. Juan Manuel Márquez - Never lost by KO Shane Mosley - Never lost by KO Victor Ortiz - Lost by KO once before fighting Floyd Miguel Cotto - Lost to Pacman by KO and Margarito who prob had illegal hand-wraps Robert Guerrero - Never lost by KO Canelo Álvarez - Never lost by KO Marcos Maidana - Never lost by KO Manny Pacquiao - Lost by KO 3 times before Mayweather Andre Berto - Lost by KO once before Mayweather All unbelievably tough fighters and not easily finished. Not bad going for someone with brittle hands either.
walshb wrote: » And there were instances in 3 of those fights where had Floyd really stepped on the gas and committed a bit more he could have gotten the KO/stoppage JMM/Guerrero/Canelo..... Yes, Canelo. Instances where he was being tagged cleanly and Floyd was dominating.
Sweet Science wrote: » He could of stopped Mosley . He was landing at will anytime he let his hands go
walshb wrote: » So what? What you gonna' do? Has to be proved. That means people have to testify and rat out each other. All it takes is Floyd and Conor to have a quiet word with each other and it's done... Plenty times where this happens in boxing. One man carries another man. Can be kind of obvious to see, but what exactly are you proving or showing to be illegal? OR....No quiet words, and Floyd decides himself (alone) to simply carry Conor. How can anything be done about that?
walshb wrote: » All it takes is Floyd and Conor to have a quiet word with each other and it's done... Plenty times where this happens in boxing. One man carries another man. Can be kind of obvious to see, but what exactly are you proving or showing to be illegal? OR....No quiet words, and Floyd decides himself (alone) to simply carry Conor. How can anything be done about that?
walshb wrote: » Also, what if Conor decides to kind of take a dive. Dance for a few rds, decide he truly has no hope and then pulls out.... Would anyone be surprised here? I wouldn't. It's a circus....
Ceniamo105 wrote: » Yes it is, basic physics and observation can tell you Diaz is the harder puncher. Diaz walks around at 190 pounds with long rangy arms. Floyd is 5 ft 8 with brittle hands.
Too Tough To Die wrote: » I think Floyd could hit Conor harder than Nate has ever hit him, if he wanted. Whether his hands could handle it, i don't know.
Eyes Down Field wrote: » I give it 3 rounds maximum. And that is being generous to Conor. Floyd will win by KO/TKO. Conor will not be able to hit Floyd, And when he tries to, He'll get countered with accurate left hooks, straight rights and right hooks to the body. There is nothing Conor can do to defend himself from it. If he stays away from Floyd, maybe he goes a round or 2 but it's simply delaying the inivitable. If you want to see a real boxing fight. Watch Canelo Vs GGG a few weeks later.
Sweet Science wrote: » Why wouldnt you ?
hbhook wrote: » Where's the new footage? All's I'm seeing is stuff with mma training included in spots (so I definitely can't comment) or else it's from a couple years ago. He looks slow (hands and feet) with no head movement. But this is all selective footage they're releasing. If we're looking solely at the boxing footage. Actually I should say, I'm far far from a boxing expert. Far from it and to be honest, I've never found MW's heavybag workouts particularly inspiring either!!
GerryDerpy wrote: » My knowledge of boxing is tiny. Since the fight was announced I have tried to get a grasp by reading the posts of the more knowledgable like yourself. And I still don't feel my understanding is growing regarding pro boxer superiority vs McGregor. I accept it is nobody's job to teach me :-) Would be good to get concrete explanations of why McGregors footage makes him so blatently bad at boxing. Maybe I am naive to think it can be so concisely explained but I will persevere and keep reading. Ps: I have just thought of an analogy that may help. If you were to ask me what makes a pro soccer player so much better than a good amateur then I wouldn't be able to explain it despite being a soccer anorak. I would say they are just better at every level. Is it the same??
XsApollo wrote: » Timing beats speed and precision beats power :-)
Burial. wrote: » Nate Diaz has 4 KO's in his 21 wins. He's hardly a powerful puncher. It would only make sense that Floyd hits harder. If a guy like Nate stunned Conor then he's f*cked against a guy who actually has proper punch technique.
Gamebred wrote: » Usually boxes people up then sub's them when they shoot.
Sweet Science wrote: » Thought he was poor boxing wise v conor . he was more a brawler in the 2nd fight . that 1-2 he caught conor with in the 1st was because he was too tired to defend himself