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Irish buildings cladding check

Atlantic Dawn

Have any buildings in Ireland being checked that they are using the very same flammable cladding used in he Grenfell Tower fire in London or do we wait until actual people are killed here? I've seen zero in the media of any single building being inspected here.

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ED E

According to the US regs its an issue with taller buildings. Ireland doesnt build up, it builds out. We knocked ballymun. No stress.

Atlantic Dawn

Yes I suppose we only go 5 or 6 stories max for housing but if your living on 6th floor and a fire breaks out on the ground level you would like to know if the building was built to burn.

vicwatson

I think we will wait for a disaster before doing anything, just like the Brits did

Junkyard Tom

ED E wrote: »

According to the US regs its an issue with taller buildings. Ireland doesnt build up, it builds out. We knocked ballymun. No stress.

I don't think it's the taller buildings that are the issue. As far as I'm aware fires could be contained for up to half-an-hour in those towers before they were wrapped in cladding.

Atlantic Dawn

Junkyard Tom wrote: »

I don't think it's the taller buildings that are the issue. As far as I'm aware fires could be contained for up to half-an-hour in those towers before they were wrapped in cladding.

Could be, they apparently had the fire fully out in the 4th floor flat where the fire started in the Grenfell Tower flat.

Junkyard Tom

Atlantic Dawn wrote: »

Could be, they apparently had the fire fully out in the 4th floor flat where the fire started in the Grenfell Tower flat.

Also, I think there was an all-building central heating system operating when they were first built so there was no need to run gas pipes up through the building to individual flats.

Del.Monte

Our lazy media could look into the situation here instead of sensational, lurid reporting of London's problems, but then that would require a bit of effort instead of copy and pasting.

Mrs OBumble

There was an acticle in one of the papers saying that some checks had been done. Yesterdays Irish indo I think.

CeilingFly

Atlantic Dawn wrote: »

Have any buildings in Ireland being checked that they are using the very same flammable cladding used in he Grenfell Tower fire in London or do we wait until actual people are killed here? I've seen zero in the media of any single building being inspected here.

You can be certain the gutter hysterical sensationalist rags have checked already. They would not miss such an opportunity to rile people up with some sensationalist rubbish.

Ken.

There is none on Irish buildings at the moment but I hear in another jurisdiction they are removing it and county councils here have picked it up for a knock down price cause its second hand. Expect it to be installed as soon as shipment can be arranged.

Ray Palmer

Conspectus wrote: »

There is none on Irish buildings at the moment but I hear in another jurisdiction they are removing it and county councils here have picked it up for a knock down price cause its second hand. Expect it to be installed as soon as shipment can be arranged.

I highly doubt this is based on any actual facts.

It is however perfectly safe to use on low rise building if installed correctly. You don't need to have an air gap behind it. Most things will burn given enough time in a fire even fire resistant materials.

Samaris

Junkyard Tom wrote: »

Also, I think there was an all-building central heating system operating when they were first built so there was no need to run gas pipes up through the building to individual flats.

In the defense of the general idea of moving over to gas, the all-building central heating systems aren't always effective, especially if the building is poorly insulated. There's been far too many cases of people either becoming ill or simply freezing to death in high-rises in winter because the heating is not sufficient on the higher floors. The elderly are the most at risk, but the poorer elderly don't have much choice about where they live.

There is no defense for running the gas lines up the sole escape route though. That was sickeningly bad planning.

fly_agaric

Was a (small) bit about it on RTE drivetime recently.

Wednesday 21st June
Could a Grenfell Tower disaster happen here?
Fire fighters tell Philip Boucher-Hayes we're 'riding our luck'

http://www.rte.ie/radio/utils/radioplayer/rteradioweb.html#!rii=b9_21191315_0__

Almost all of piece is about fire brigades' preparedness for tackling such a massive fire in Ireland. At end (around 6.30-7 mins) the issue is discussed a little. Apparently the basic information does not exist, or at least the fire services cannot get a hold of it (maybe some of it is filing cabinets in planning offices around the country?) + need to go around checking buildings. Probably a good thing we don't (AFAIK) have any very tall residential blocks of flats here any more.

Ken.

Ray Palmer wrote: »

I highly doubt this is based on any actual facts.

It is however perfectly safe to use on low rise building if installed correctly. You don't need to have an air gap behind it. Most things will burn given enough time in a fire even fire resistant materials.

That post was heavy sarcasm.

Mrs OBumble

Conspectus wrote: »

There is none on Irish buildings at the moment but I hear in another jurisdiction they are removing it and county councils here have picked it up for a knock down price cause its second hand. Expect it to be installed as soon as shipment can be arranged.

Asbestos and lead pipes, take a bow for leading the way.

slavetothegrind

i don't live in an apartment but in a semiD.
I have checked the party wall in the attic and would advise everyone to do so .

Apartment dwellers should look up the fire protection that should be in place in their apartment and the common spaces and inspect it if they can or get a competant person to do so.

There is no joy in this as any faults found are going to cost you.

But better that than costing you your life.

Then we need to collectively lobby for a government inspection body of independent qualified people to actively inspect and regulate buildings in this country.