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Fight Time From 4am-McGregor vs MayweatherMOD Warning in 1st Post

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So, this is looking more likely to be on the cards sooner rather than later...

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/boxing/38591420

Any opinion on who would win this potential fight?

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megadodge

Jesus Wept wrote: »

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TjGcgdaIIKY

Pillow fighting power.

Jesus wept!

Mellor

normanoffside wrote: »

[
. Mathematically it should be about 1/4...

I'm curious as to how you worked that out, mathematically

[Deleted User]

Mauro Ranallo ex WWE is one of the commentators for the fight.

chopperbyrne

RoboKlopp wrote: »

Mauro Ranallo ex WWE is one of the commentators for the fight.

He's best known for his MMA commentary, most notably Pride, EliteXC, and Strikeforce.

normanoffside

Mellor wrote: »

I'm curious as to how you worked that out, mathematically

Because he stops him 4 times out of 5.
Odds are skewed because of all the money going on McGregor which offer great value..

TheQuietBeatle

RoboKlopp wrote: »

Mauro Ranallo ex WWE is one of the commentators for the fight.

He's pretty overrated in my opinion.

If Mayweather destroys McGregor, this could actually be really bad for UFC's brand. Your best fighter who is 28 can't last a few seconds with boxer who is much older and coming out of retirement (albeit a great).

Wonder if long term UFC will regret the big pay day for the damage it may do to the image of their fighters.

Mellor

normanoffside wrote: »

Because he stops him 4 times out of 5.
Odds are skewed because of all the money going on McGregor which offer great value..

I understand how odds work.
I'm asking what mathematically basis you were using. But sounds like your just estimating.

FWIW I doubt it goes the distance either.

HONKEY TONK

Conor will be knocked out in the first round

Jimmy Bottlehead

TheQuietBeatle wrote: »

He's pretty overrated in my opinion.

If Mayweather destroys McGregor, this could actually be really bad for UFC's brand. Your best fighter who is 28 can't last a few seconds with boxer who is much older and coming out of retirement (albeit a great).

Wonder if long term UFC will regret the big pay day for the damage it may do to the image of their fighters.

No, it's not.

Floyd beats Conor in a boxing match, barring some sort of crazy thing that happens.
Conor beats Floyd in an MMA fight, barring some sort of crazy thing that happens.

Nobody is gonna think MMA is a 'lesser' sport if an MMA fighter loses to a boxer under boxing rules. Put any boxer in an MMA fight and they'll almost certainly get taken down and pounded out or submitted before they know what's happening. In a quote often attributed to Rickson Gracie: “I am a shark, the ground is my ocean, and most people don't know how to swim.”

walshb

HONKEY TONK wrote: »

Conor will be knocked out in the first round

Have you read the script?

walshb

I will watch the event. It is not a pro boxing contest. Nor is it a sporting contest. Anyone thinking it is is deluded.

snowflaker

I won't watch it. Its bs. Might as well have Sylvester Stallone fight Jackie Chan

HONKEY TONK

walshb wrote: »

Have you read the script?

Any world champion with that experience would put away a low end amature boxer in the first round.

It would be scripted if he didn't.

Littlehorny

snowflaker wrote: »

I won't watch it. Its bs. Might as well have Sylvester Stallone fight Jackie Chan

True observation! The nearest thing i can think of is the start of Rocky 3 when Rocky fights Thunder Lips (Hulk Hogan)

snowflaker

Littlehorny wrote: »

True observation! The nearest thing i can think of is the start of Rocky 3 when Rocky fights Thunder Lips (Hulk Hogan)

I was actually going to say Hulk Hogan but I thought it might mix the message

snowflaker

Plenty of people watch Love Island- doesn't make it right! :P

walshb

HONKEY TONK wrote: »

It would be scripted if he didn't.

Kind of my point...

The event has two scenarios..

A complete mismatch beat down due to both men not being in agreement to stage the way the fight goes

Or a stage managed event that follows a flow, like WEE..both parties playing their part.

Either scenario is a con when you look at it...

HONKEY TONK

walshb wrote: »

Kind of my point...

The event has two scenarios..

A complete mismatch beat down due to both men not being in agreement to stage the way the fight goes

Or a stage managed event that follows a flow, like WEE..both parties playing their part.

Either scenario is a con when you look at it...

I can't see TMT or the UFC ruining their reputation to stage a fight.

I believe Floyd will finish the fight in the first minute or two and in the post fight interview put it on Conor for calling him out.

People will be paying 10s of thousands to attend the fight and there will be trouble if people get a inkling of a staged fight.

mdwexford

walshb wrote: »

I will watch the event. It is not a pro boxing contest. Nor is it a sporting contest. Anyone thinking it is is deluded.

Only an imbecile thinks it isn't.

[Deleted User]

walshb wrote: »

I will watch the event. It is not a pro boxing contest. Nor is it a sporting contest. Anyone thinking it is is deluded.

This is similar to Ali v Inoki, was a joke of a fight, was just to sell ppvs and make money, nothing about it was a 'real fight'. They talked crap at each other at press conferences and then everyone bought into it.

Floyd imo is one of the best boxers ever, if he was 50 he would still beat Conor.... never mind 42. Conor is amazing, excellent athlete but he will have no chance agaist TBE, unless something happens and Floyd pulls his amstring getting into the ring or something.

walshb

mdwexford wrote: »

Only an imbecile thinks it isn't.

Speak for yourself!

froog

It's entertainment and it's going to be a lot of fun. Some people should lighten up about this.

mdwexford

walshb wrote: »

Speak for yourself!

But you are wrong. It is clearly a sporting contest.

Just like if Real Madrid play your local soccer team down the road, or if I give Roger Federer a game of tennis.

XsApollo

Well one thing is I hope the PPV numbers for U.K.,Ireland and Europe are sh*te otherwise the UFC might get ideas about bringing PPV this side of the water.

Myself I'll the fight after it's finished :-))

Jesus Wept

mdwexford wrote: »

But you are wrong. It is clearly a sporting contest.

Just like if Real Madrid play your local soccer team down the road, or if I give Roger Federer a game of tennis.

Roger is getting on in years. I'd put you at 5/1

mdwexford

Jesus Wept wrote: »

Roger is getting on in years. I'd put you at 5/1

I do have a wicked single handed backhand. :pac:

Mellor

walshb wrote: »

I will watch the event. It is not a pro boxing contest. Nor is it a sporting contest. Anyone thinking it is is deluded.

Sorry you've lost me there.
On what basis is it not boxing? Or sport?

I agree it's a complete mismatch. But that's not really relevant to either the above. It'll under the rules of boxing, with no unusual modifications (that I'm aware), both men will be getting paid, etc. It's officially sanction as a professional both. Opinion on ability doesn't come into it, even if the opinion is correct.
Ditto for sport. It maybe not be a sporting (adj) contest, that doesn't mean it's not sport (noun).

Obviously, if the fight ends up being a work it's neither. But there's no way to say at the minute that it will be a work, bad I don't think that's what you were saying.

Donald Trump

Lads, in 100 years this is still going to be the second most famous and celebrated sporting event of all time

The most famous and celebrated will be started into motion when McGregor knocks out Mayweather within those first 20 seconds and immediately calls out Chuck Norris for the ultimate fight of the ages.

McG vs MW is only the warm up for McG vs Norris. It will be massive but don't get too carried away yet. The best has yet to come!!!

Sweet Science

froog wrote: »

It's entertainment and it's going to be a lot of fun. Some people should lighten up about this.

I cant speak for every boxing fan . For me personally i will watch and enjoy the show . It just hurts my head listening to people breakdown the fight as a contest .

walshb

Mellor wrote: »

Sorry you've lost me there.
On what basis is it not boxing? Or sport?

I agree it's a complete mismatch. But that's not really relevant to either the above. It'll under the rules of boxing, with no unusual modifications (that I'm aware), both men will be getting paid, etc. It's officially sanction as a professional both. Opinion on ability doesn't come into it, even if the opinion is correct.
Ditto for sport. It maybe not be a sporting (adj) contest, that doesn't mean it's not sport (noun).

Obviously, if the fight ends up being a work it's neither. But there's no way to say at the minute that it will be a work, bad I don't think that's what you were saying.

Been over this and gave my reasons. Just because something has an official tag on it and is sanctioned etc etc doesn't mean it's at all above board, or more importantly, doesn't mean it has substance and credibility.

This event, if it's not stage managed, is nothing but a novelty act.

This event if stage managed is nothing but a novelty act.

Same if Mayweather stepped into the Octagon under MMA rules.

It hasn't got a sniff or realism, substance or credibility about it.

Same if a Dublin GAA 11 played Real Madrid in a soccer match. Novelty act.

When one side is so very limited and clearly handicapped then the "sporting" occasion ceases to become so.