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Roscommon GAA Discussion Thread

Syferus

There seems to be a few Rossies on the forum and even though the seniors are done for this year there's still plenty going on, not least the minors great run and the county championship likely to restart very soon.

So. A thread for it all!

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yabadabado

theoneeyedman wrote: »

Do you have any facts to back this up??
Corruption....1 million spent.... Ye'll want more than gossip and hearsay for this type of claims I'd say.

Who mentioned corruption?

theoneeyedman

yabadabado wrote: »

A lot less .
Afaik nearly 1 million spent before any sod is turned in runabraken.

Do you have any facts to back this up??
Corruption....1 million spent.... Ye'll want more than gossip and hearsay for this type of claims I'd say.

yabadabado

nice_guy80 wrote: »

50K a year to AIT?

A lot less .
Afaik nearly 1 million spent before any sod is turned in runabraken.

nice_guy80

50K a year to AIT?

megadodge

Syferus wrote: »

How many are actually living in Roscommon? Without knowing exact numbers I'd safely say more live in Dublin than Roscommon, with others in Galway or the like. Given most of the panel are still of college age a training location centralised in Roscommon is no advantage to them and only increases their travel time.

The Oran site was stupidly expensive but will be useful for underage teams at club and county level, a training site off the M6 in Athlone is still likely needed in the future for the senior team.

The vast majority are living in Roscommon!

ALL players in Roscommon, not just the senior panel, will be using the facilities. Underage teams, development panels and clubs vastly outnumber the senior players.

Everybody agrees about the corrupt price paid for the Oran site, but I don't see how adding more costs to an already cash-strapped County board is going to help things.

Syferus

megadodge wrote: »

Purely from a practical point of view that would be a poor choice for at least half the county. Some players could be spending up to 1.5 hours each way travelling and straight away that's a huge disincentive.

How many are actually living in Roscommon? Without knowing exact numbers I'd safely say more live in Dublin than Roscommon, with others in Galway or the like. Given most of the panel are still of college age a training location centralised in Roscommon is no advantage to them and only increases their travel time.

The Oran site was stupidly expensive but will be useful for underage teams at club and county level, a training site off the M6 in Athlone is still likely needed in the future for the senior team.

megadodge

yabadabado wrote: »

The training centre they have planned is also not that assesssible .Should have taken AIT up on their offer.

Purely from a practical point of view that would be a poor choice for at least half the county. Some players could be spending up to 1.5 hours each way travelling and straight away that's a huge disincentive.

pjmn

Agree Leitrim were beyond poor, looked like a poor minor team against seniors. Not sure what we'll have learned from today, and undoubtedly we wont get the same amount of space against Galway. Having said that looked far more of a team than some of the league performances.

Pitch looked fantastic today.

yabadabado

Leitrim were beyond poor .They have regressed from a very low level last year.
We did enough but still think we are weak in a few key areas.

megadodge

Hard to say anything after that.

Last year I said it was the worst Leitrim team I had seen, well, I'm sorry to say it but this year's team is worse.

I suppose Roscommon did what they had to do, but virtually nothing new will have been learned by today.

On a more definite note, the pitch looked fantastic!

Syferus

As I said. Good performance but all with the asterisk that it's Leitrim.

Now for the real stuff.

yabadabado

Ros were up at 9 points at half time and were far superior from start to finish.I don't think the sending off had much baring on the result.
Be hoping for a similar result tomorrow and think we will push close to double figures again.

Syferus

Always_Running wrote: »

A quick google search for you (might improve your memory) will tell you the game was over as a contest when Roscommon led by 10 points at half time. the first sending off was in 54th minute.

You'd have want to read that report a bit closer before rushing to respond next time.

Always_Running

Syferus wrote: »

I suppose those who Google results when they need a talking point might think that. Leitrim finished that game with 12 men with most of the gloss added after the sending offs.

A quick google search for you (might improve your memory) will tell you the game was over as a contest when Roscommon led by 10 points at half time. the first sending off was in 54th minute.

Syferus

Always_Running wrote: »

Was capable enough to beat Leitrim by 13 points last year and if Roscommon reach this Julys final i and many others will expect Galway to beat the rossies without the need of a replay.

I suppose those who Google results when they need a talking point might think that. Leitrim finished that game with 12 men with most of the gloss added after the sending offs.

Always_Running

Syferus wrote: »

This will be a very straightforward game.

The panel may look weaker but it is far more unified and probably more capable of putting Leitrim to the sword than last year, and certainly less likely to capitulate like the Connacht final replay last year.

Was capable enough to beat Leitrim by 13 points last year and if Roscommon reach this Julys final i and many others will expect Galway to beat the rossies without the need of a replay.

Syferus

Always_Running wrote: »

If Leitrim bring a blanket like fellow Div 4 teams Waterford,Carlow did in recent weeks it could be a tricky encounter for the Rossies on Sunday.

Roscommon could have nicked it in Salthill last year but that was then and now Galway have a stronger panel while Ros are clearly weaker with all of their injuries and departures.

This will be a very straightforward game.

The panel may look weaker but it is far more unified and probably more capable of putting Leitrim to the sword than last year, and certainly less likely to capitulate like the Connacht final replay last year.

yabadabado

The training centre they have planned is also not that assesssible .Should have taken AIT up on their offer.

nice_guy80

yabadabado wrote: »

Was there any players 27-30 discarded?
Wasn't it mostly lads not wanting to play moreso than management not wanting them ?

There is definitely 3 or 4 if they were involved would be starting on Sunday but they have their reasons.

i'm not going back on it, but those lads would be there if they could work and train close to the county
and if the setup was as well funded as it has been the previous few years

the lack of a base for the county team to train is a huge issue

yabadabado

Was there any players 27-30 discarded?
Wasn't it mostly lads not wanting to play moreso than management not wanting them ?

There is definitely 3 or 4 if they were involved would be starting on Sunday but they have their reasons.

nice_guy80

huge turnover in players

and in other counties with better local job opportunities and better funding and facilities for the county team then lads would stick with the senior panel
you cannot just discard lads aged 27-30 who should be the core of your team

Always_Running

padd b1975 wrote: »

Nothing less than a comfortable Roscommon victory here I feel.

For some reason I give them a serious shout against Galway, they will be in a perfect position going into it and with the right attitude they can definitely nick it

If Leitrim bring a blanket like fellow Div 4 teams Waterford,Carlow did in recent weeks it could be a tricky encounter for the Rossies on Sunday.

Roscommon could have nicked it in Salthill last year but that was then and now Galway have a stronger panel while Ros are clearly weaker with all of their injuries and departures.

padd b1975

Nothing less than a comfortable Roscommon victory here I feel.

For some reason I give them a serious shout against Galway, they will be in a perfect position going into it and with the right attitude they can definitely nick it

rossie1977

Just looking back to the 2014 match in the Hyde and Roscommon have only 2 starters from that team which is insane considering of the 12 outfield players missing only one is over 30 in Kilbride.

C__MC wrote: »

Roscommon will beat Leitrim easily enough

It's division one v division four

Roscommon were relegated so its technically division 2 vs 4. Cork and Clare both division 2 sides only beat Waterford and limerick both division 4 by one point. Roscommon were division 1 in 2000 lost to Leitrim who were in division 4.

Leitrims record in the Hyde is much better than Carrick. The most Roscommon have ever scored is 1-18 which is less than they conceded to division 4 Wexford in a challenge last week..

C__MC

Roscommon will beat Leitrim easily enough

It's division one v division four

sting60

The player availability issue is not just confined to Roscommon as one county had eleven for training three weeks ago and the understanding response from players"what's the point".The GAA seem non interested so long as the big grounds are full and can sell the viewing rights to USA,Canada,UK, Australia etc,etc.There comes a time when 32 counties cannot field teams and indeed that time is very near at hand with the standard on show so far indicates that players have little or no interest in hard training and the quality suffers.Ive spoken before about a system whereby lesser counties play for a trophy and the winner/winners join in the All-Ireland proper.How can Roscommon, Leitrim, Longford etc,etc cope with Dublin's budget of €1.5 annually it's just not feasible.The GAA have got realise quickly that the game is dieing a death and have got to react for the good of the game.

Dr. Kenneth Noisewater

The reasons Roscommon are missing all these players are many, and well documented (or speculated on). A lot of quality around the county that isn't in the ranks of that 26 all right, but we have to let McStay get on with it at this stage.

That team looks a little on the light side. Weather is meant to be fine for Sunday which will suit the selection. I'd be fairly confident of a win, hopefully we get one and don't pick up injuries as the squad is threadbare as it is.

manofwisdom

I won't name them but question marks over about 7 or that 26 if they are county standard at all. Whatever the reason Donie and Cathal Shine,Conor,Ronan and Nial Daly,David Keenan,Ultan Harney,Neill Collins,Cathal Cregg, Kevin Higgins,Tom Corcoran, and Cathal Compton is a lot of quality to be missing from a championship panel.

Syferus

rossie1977 wrote: »

Clear lack of height and power on that 26. Can anyone explain to me why the Shine's who are both reportedly playing well for Clann are not on the panel?

Cathal was not fit enough and Clann had to get him one-on-one physical training to get him even up to club level fitness. Like with Higgins you can be a fantastic player but if the fitness isn't there you just aren't going to feature at IC because the demands are so high.

Donie had more than enough on his plate this year without IC football and could well be back for 2018. Indeed if Cathal's fitness improves he will most definitely be invited back because at 100% he is one of the best midfielders in Connacht.

rossie1977

Clear lack of height and power on that 26. Can anyone explain to me why the Shine's who are both reportedly playing well for Clann are not on the panel?