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Arghus

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Ipso

There should be something similar based on the Ross O'Carroll Kelly books.

buried

Brendan Behan Day. The real Dublin genius.

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White horses with white frontlet plumes came round the Rotunda corner, galloping. A tiny coffin flashed by. In a hurry to bury. A mourning coach. Unmarried. Black for the married. Piebald for bachelors. Dun for a nun

Neither O'Carroll Kelly nor Behan can hold a candle to Joyce.

andekwarhola

buried wrote: »

Brendan Behan Day. The real Dublin genius.

Does drinking and fighting in north Dublin city centre need a designated day?

buried

andekwarhola wrote: »

Does drinking and fighting in north Dublin city centre need a designated day?

You've obviously never read 'The Confirmation Suit'. I highly recommend that you do.

Different strokes for different folks I suppose, but for me Brendan Behan outdoes Joyce by a 400 mile gallop, or whatever you're having yourself

andekwarhola

buried wrote: »

You've obviously never read 'The Confirmation Suit'. I highly recommend that you do.

I inhabit a world where making lame jokes is perfectly compatible with having read The Confo Suit.

In fact, it was on my curriculum in school.

buried

andekwarhola wrote: »

In fact, it was on my curriculum in school.

Is that what put you off Behan's work?

andekwarhola

andekwarhola wrote: »

I inhabit a world where making lame jokes is perfectly compatible with having read The Confo Suit.

In fact, it was on my curriculum in school.

On second thoughts, I should have replied, 'Alas my joke was where Aughrim was lost'.

Talk about a l'esprit d'escalier.

buried

You should give it another go outside the school curriculum mindest andek, it's really good stuff

andekwarhola

I LIKE IT AND BEHAN. I WAS MAKING A JOKE.

Robsweezie

Alex Loose Pi wrote: »

Neither O'Carroll Kelly nor Behan can hold a candle to Joyce.

ah joyce, sucking farts out of noras dirty arse.

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Yourself isit

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Finnegan's wake is a spoof.

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Academic

I was in Dublin for the 100th Bloomsday anniversary in 2004. It was spectacular. I loved it.

To be fair, however, this was before the economic collapse. Dublin was a very different place back then.

Ipso

So what goes on, is it drinking wine, eating gorgonzola and the odd orgy?

Arghus

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Interesting point of view. The literary masterwork of the entire twentieth century?
You'd put it ahead of Ulysses - amongst others - itself? That's high praise, maybe too high...

I don't think it's a "spoof", but I can definitely find some sympathy with the charge that a lot of it is impenetrable goobledegook. Have you actually read it from sentence to sentence, page after page, cover to cover? I will admit with no shame that it defeated me and I tried. I really tried. And I think Joyce may have been the greatest literary genius that ever lived.

Arghus

buried wrote: »

Brendan Behan Day. The real Dublin genius.

Behan was top class, but Joyce was better.

Academic

Ipso wrote: »

So what goes on, is it drinking wine, eating gorgonzola and the odd orgy?

Is this question for me?

If so, it went on for five months. Events all over Dublin, at dozens of venues. Lectures, concerts, art exhibitions, museum exhibitions, etc., etc. Huge participation (pretty much what you would expect when most of Dublin gets together to throw itself a party).

There's a bit about it here:

http://www.irishtimes.com/news/dublin-festival-will-mark-100th-bloomsday-1.969286

dub_skav

When it comes to great Irish authors of the 20th century, you can keep your joyce and your behan, a pint of plain is your only man

Rumpy Pumpy

Thanks to Mr. Joyce, the Plain People of Ireland were given a voice and representation that wasn't available to them before that. Due to poverty, porter, and a lack of prophylactics.

buried

Arghus wrote: »

Behan was top class, but Joyce was better.

Well, like I said, its different strokes for different folks. It's all subjective isn't it? Joyce's writing to me is extremely cold, lifeless and sterile, devoid of genuine human traits, humour and frailties, and that's nothing to do with the time he wrote those novels either, my favourite novels are works by Dostoyevsky. Joyce's works to me are just lifeless brochures or grey diaries depicting an age long gone, one that will never return.

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'There's no accounting for taste', as an old women I knew used to explain people whose taste was, er, questionable. And there isn't.

Joyce is overrated, as is Shakespeare (yes, the plagiarist Shakespeare) and most of the other sacred cows of current fashion. For example, somebody should have taught Joyce how to write a succinct, sharp sentence. The lad had no discipline when it came to finding that full stop. Awful, self-absorbed, elongated, obtuse nonsense.

Saying these things is like piercing a dagger through the heart of some of the delicate little flowers who almost fall to tears at any criticism of Shakespeare (if that was his name!) or the other pompous git with notions.

Dostoevsky, Kafka & Camus had better imaginary worlds and stronger philosophical messages. For instance, The Grand Inquisitor is philosophical genius in literature in its truest sense. So, too, is Notes from the Underground. Beckett's 'Waiting for Godot' is also genius - an entire 'play where nothing happens, twice', as the famous review put it. As is L'Étranger by Camus. New, fresh, original. The sort of creative works where it hits you months later what it was all about and then you develop different interpretations about it every time you reflect on it.

Fratton Fred

Ipso wrote: »

So what goes on, is it drinking wine, eating gorgonzola and the odd orgy?

A breakfast of kidney and livers, followed by copious amounts of beer.

Well, that's how we do it is Sandycove anyway.

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RayM

The 1967 film adaptation of Ulysses (banned in Ireland until 2000) is on YouTube.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FMlY7Tjs1ms

pangbang

After hours is what they would call it. A flimsy church for the pious and piteous, tortuous souls and gloating troll's, fleeting meetings of the well-to-do's and the must-do-better's. Basta*ds all. Down at heel and sinking further, social comfort bleeding fast between the pages of globally strangling webs. Flocking for mocking and dropping greasy heavenward thumbs with slippery tongues tangled together in pointless endeavour. After Hours is what they would call it.

Heckler

I tried Ulysses. Two pages in and my head hurt. I don;t like the Norris heads who think you're a philistine for not reading or understanding it.

Each to their own. I thought it was incomprehensible rubbish. Which it is.

He was off his tits when he wrote that.

RayM

Heckler wrote: »

I tried Ulysses. Two pages in and my head hurt. I don;t like the Norris heads who think you're a philistine for not reading or understanding it.

Each to their own. I thought it was incomprehensible rubbish. Which it is.

I think most people who have read Ulysses would acknowledge that it's a book that takes a lot of time and dedication to read and understand properly, and would not view those who haven't read it as "philistines".

fatknacker

I much prefer to read his racey letters about sniffing farties in Nora's bloomers.