The Reservoir Dubs Anchorman wrote: » Admittedly I dont watch alot of MMA but did Nate Diaz not hit McGregor with a couple of shots that did him in. He may not have hit the floor after the hit but those punches ended the fight if i remember correctly? As in Diaz then got the choke hold on?
Gamebred wrote: » Wobbled him alright with the 1-2 but thats about as much trouble as hes ever been in during his whole career, never seen him wobble like that before or since (inc diaz 2), Diaz would be a lot bigger than Mayweather less accurate but more power as hes 170 walking round.
wonderfullife wrote: » So, what you're saying is: I will wait and see the fight before alleging it was a conspiracy, a fix, a rigged fight. You clearly know absolutely zero about Floyd Mayweather if you believe he is *somehow* willing to sacrifice a perfect career record to go 49-1 against an 0-0 boxer. Also, saying it's a "novelty act" is stupid. The only "novelty" involved is that Conor isn't a boxer. They are still going to be winging punches at each other in a 20x20 foot ring with a referee, judges and an athletic commission. Walshb Translation: If Conor wins or lands a few good punches or it goes the distance, it was a fix. At least grow a pair of balls. If you think it's going to be a rigged/fixed fight, step up and say it beforehand. You're twisting yourself into a pretzel so you can absolutely refuse to give Conor any credit whatsoever if he performs well.
walshb wrote: » Also, I never brought up anything about Floyd sacrificing his perfect career. You are bringing this up. Like I said, anyone who has such certainty that is is all above board and that there will be no element of trickery or deals or agreements away you go.... I will wait and see. I will make my call after the event.
wonderfullife wrote: » Even his most ardent fans (like me) are still unconvinced about his cardio, especially when he's carrying more muscle mass at 170lbs. Boxing rhythm and cardio are a complete different kettle of fish. I don't know how he'll do but I expect we'll see the first signs of a cardio dump in the 3rd and 4th rounds.
wonderfullife wrote: » LMAO "I never brought anything up about Floyd sacrificing his perfect career". NEXT SENTENCE: "anyone who's certain it won't be a fix away you go....." You're constantly alluding to the possibility this will be a fixed fight, so yes you are bringing up the possibility Floyd could deliberately throw the fight.
Gamebred wrote: » I dont think its a normal cardio issue, I think hes that explosive no matter how much he does in camp he will tire around 8 or 9 mins into a fight, difference is hes learned to regroup and get his 2nd wind (diaz 2 round 4 for example).
walshb wrote: » Again, making stuff up. And unable to even quote exactly what I typed....
wonderfullife wrote: » Ok, look just so we are clear and I won't mis-represent your opinion.... Tell me: What are the signs you will look for when deciding if the fight was rigged?
Augeo wrote: » I think he means something like ............... Floyd agreeing to make it an exhibition type fight, ie not knock Conor out in the first round ............ let there be an element of value for money
walshb wrote: » I think anyone with any education/knowledge on combat sports will be able to see a staged buzz from this. IF that is what happens....... I don't think he is going in there to get humiliated or badly beaten up. He's not that type of character, so that leads me to wonder if there is a kind of staged agreement between the two on how the fights unfolds....
Augeo wrote: » I think he means something like ............... Floyd agreeing to make it an exhibition type fight, ie not knock Conor out in the first round ............ let there be an element of value for money or not have Conor on the floor on one knee in every round.........
wonderfullife wrote: » Ha. If "anyone with knowledge on combat sports" can spot a 'staged buzz' then you must know what that looks like before the fight?
wonderfullife wrote: » But the idea that Conor and Floyd are whatsapping each other discussing how to rig the fight so it's competitive is crazy and frankly looks to me like pre-emptive SALT!
walshb wrote: » The "fix" or staged element won't be going down like that, if it goes down. There's a whole lot more people involved in this show.
wonderfullife wrote: » You're still effectively saying if Conor lands some good shots on Floyd and makes it competitive, that it was a fix.....
walshb wrote: » If the fight is two men going at it 100 percent committed and with no agreement in place it will not be at all competitive....The only way this is competitive is for an agreement to allow it to be.....
wonderfullife wrote: » You're actually pathetic.
wonderfullife wrote: » ......... It's possible that Conor does well in a fair fight because he's ridiculously talented with heavy hands. Likely? No. Possible? Yes.............
wonderfullife wrote: » Ah. There it is. If Conor does well it's because it's a rigged fight. You're actually pathetic. Newsflash: It's possible that Conor does well in a fair fight because he's ridiculously talented with heavy hands. Likely? No. Possible? Yes. You're a salty hater that's all you are. If Conor does well = fixed, If Conor gets KO'd in the 1st = not fixed.
Augeo wrote: » ............ he has how many national titles?
wonderfullife wrote: » 4 world titles.
