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Fight Time From 4am-McGregor vs MayweatherMOD Warning in 1st Post

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So, this is looking more likely to be on the cards sooner rather than later...

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/boxing/38591420

Any opinion on who would win this potential fight?

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wonderfullife wrote: »

Do yourself a huge favour before talking complete drivel.

Watch this. It's 1 minute long. Every one of his opponents is in motion. Every one of his opponents are not standing like mannequins. Every one of them are Mixed Martial Artists.

Conor would head-kick KO Floyd within 20 seconds.

............

wonderfullife wrote: »

He knocked out none of them because Mixed Martial Artists have a decade of experience in recognising and blocking kicks.

When Conor lifts either his lead or rear leg to kick he has tremendous dexterity in his hips - he can whip it to the leg, body or head in a heartbeat. It's not telegraphed and it takes years to get the timing of WHERE the kick is going. Floyd might hold a high right guard expecting a left high kick to the face and in the meantime Conor has converted it to a question mark kick or wheel kick to the other side of the dome.

Yes, Floyd would be unconscious inside 30 seconds in an MMA or street fight.

lol............ so we are now including a street fight

And we have gone from 20 secs to 30 secs.

I reckon as Conor lifts his leg Floyd moves ...... again folks underestimate how quick footed a boxer is. The MMA blinkers are an awful thing.

The MMA chumps are leaden legged in comparison

GerryDerpy wrote: »

To all the pretty boy fans and boxing experts, how many rounds does McGregor have to last to get credit and for the fight to be considered a sporting event??

If Mayweather toys with him for 12 rounds does Conor deserve credit?

yabadabado

Jimmy Bottlehead wrote: »

No. I know what he meant. And both he and you are literally wrong. This is sport. You may not like it, but it is.

I would call that waffle. WWE is a dramatic athletic show with predetermined results to mimic a (extremely unrealistic) fight.

This is a boxing match with two men who have quite large personalities.

It's completely different.

I said similar to WWE they are both fantastic athletics but it's a pure money making scheme and could be predetermined for all we know.
What does their personalities have anything got to do with what happens in side the ring ?

I suppose many things can be classed as sport but to me this is more an event.

walshb

And for the record Conor deserves a lot of credit to step in the ring in a sport that is not his to challenge a career veteran. It is, after all D toughest sport on earth..

It still doesn't make this event a sporting contest. It is the complete opposite of sport.

Auroras_encore

Jeez some of the posters on this board need a psych evaluation , McGregor doesn't even have a punchers chance in this , far better men then him have tried and failed to lay a glove on Mayweather, Manny and canelo for starters

Donald Trump

walshb wrote: »

And for the record Conor deserves a lot of credit to step in the ring in a sport that is not his to challenge a career veteran. It is, after all D toughest sport on earth.

I don't necessarily disagree with that but I would agree with it a bit more if all the money wasn't on the line.
McGregor could potentially make a lot of money (by normal standards) in MMA. By taking on this fight he'll earn more than he probably would throughout the rest of his MMA career. In that sense, it is probably less of a long-term physical risk for him to take one fight with Mayweather than it is to take 20 MMA fights.
I saw reports of 100m. That's mental. Even if he gets half of that. If someone was to give me 50m I think I'd get into the ring with anyone. And it's not my profession. I might be crapping myself but I think I'd still do it for that mental money.
I mean you have journeymen boxers who have 200 or 300 fights, only winning a handful. They get paid a couple of hundred quid or maybe a grand here or there to provide entertainment and practice for up and coming boxers and to help pad out records. I reckon that a good few of the posters on here could have chosen to be one of those had they needed the money and had no other way to earn.
McGregor is the 100m journeyman. Fair play to him for getting the money. I do agree wholeheartedly that it's not a sporting event.

walshb

Very valid points, Donald..

GerryDerpy

Augeo wrote: »

If Mayweather toys with him for 12 rounds does Conor deserve credit?

So you don't think Mayweather has the skill to finish it quicker?

Ultimate Seduction

GerryDerpy wrote:

So you don't think Mayweather has the skill to finish it quicker?

It's fixed if he's not KO 'd in the first few rounds you see.

wonderfullife

walshb wrote: »

Where am I making claims about Conor's courage?

This is not sport in its strictest sense. I cannot be any more diplomatic than that..

You seem to be making stuff up as you go along..

It's sport in the strictest sense.

If Barcelona take on your local pub team and beat them 42-0 over 90 minutes it was still a sporting contest.

If Usain Bolt in the 1st round of Heats in the Olympics is racing against guys with a PB of 11.34, it was still a sporting contest.

Your argument is that it needs to be *fair* to be considered a sporting contest.

Complete nonsense. Sport is full of mis-matches.

Every now and then you get a Leicester City, deemed 5,000/1 no-hopers who prove your argument is stupid.

Donald Trump wrote: »

In that sense, it is probably less of a long-term physical risk for him to take one fight with Mayweather than it is to take 20 MMA fights.

I saw reports of 100m. That's mental. Even if he gets half of that. If someone was to give me 50m I think I'd get into the ring with anyone. And it's not my profession. I might be crapping myself but I think I'd still do it for that mental money.

walshb wrote: »

Very valid points, Donald..

More complete drivel.

In Conor's last 20 MMA fights he has been rocked ONCE. Rocked once in 20 fights. 15 KO wins, 2 decision wins, 1 submission win and 2 submission losses in his last 20 fights. Only once did his legs buckle in 20 fights and he's never ever been dropped.

Absolutely (by far) the bigger risk to his physical health is stepping inside a ring with Floyd Mayweather. Floyd is likely to hit Conor more in this one fight than Conor has been hit clean in his entire career so far.

As for the money, Forbes said Conor made $34 million last year.

He could (easily) have made another $40 million this year by taking 3 fights in his own sport where he's a 2-weight world champion.

Yes, he's fighting Floyd for a big payday but it's *by far* the riskiest thing he can do in his career. It's not even close.

Ultimate Seduction

It really is funny, people saying Floyd will KO him whenever he decides, Yet still it's not a risk for Conor. If it goes longer than a few rounds it's fixed.

Your wasting your time Wonder.

GerryDerpy

Ultimate Seduction wrote: »

It really is funny, people saying Floyd will KO him whenever he decides, Yet still it's not a risk for Conor. If it goes longer than a few rounds it's fixed.

Your wasting your time Wonder.

There's a few pad man failed boxers in here that are clearly begrudging of Ireland's greatest sportsman.

wonderfullife

Ultimate Seduction wrote: »

It really is funny, people saying Floyd will KO him whenever he decides, Yet still it's not a risk for Conor. If it goes longer than a few rounds it's fixed.

Your wasting your time Wonder.

I'm not trying to convince these fine boxing folks that Conor will win. I'm his biggest fan and I can't see past a Floyd 9th Round TKO.

What I do want is for them to get their stories straight.

So far, in here we've seen:

* Floyd will make a show of him.
* Floyd will destroy him.
* It's a joke fight Conor has 0% chance
* It's WWE-esque.

That's all fine.

If Conor does KO Floyd or in a doomsday scenario, Conor wins on points, then don't come back making BS conspiracy theories.

Either Floyd is too good and will mop the floor with Conor or he isn't.

If he is, then fine let's watch him destroy Conor.
If he loses, come on here, eat crow and praise Conor to the hilt.

Ultimate Seduction

GerryDerpy wrote:

There's a few pad man failed boxers in here that are clearly begrudging of Ireland's greatest sportsman.

Afraid that one of the GOATs of the sport loses to a non boxer that's all it is

Too Tough To Die

wonderfullife wrote: »

Comments like this are an absolute disgrace to the likes of Michael Watson and Mike Towell.

This is a contest inside a boxing ring with real punches being thrown and real potential consequences to health and life.

It is a sporting contest. You're entitled to view Floyd as a huge favorite but don't go down that road of diminishing it as a charade or comparing it to Big Brother.

If you were so concerned with the likes of Watson and Towell you would be screaming from the rooftops how it's a disgrace that this fight can even be sanctioned.

Burial.

It's sad there are more clowns wanting to come over to Boxing now. Stipe, that Danis fella, I think that bum Lobov said he wanted Khan as well. Hate to see an Irish man be the example to be made but Floyd really needs to put a historic beating on this guy. Clowns need to learn that stepping into a Boxing ring isn't a walk in the park. Anthony Joshua would kill Stipe or any other MMA fighter in the Boxing ring, I've no doubt about it. Conor is lucky Floyd doesn't have great power. But Conor is still at risk of some serious life threatening damage and I'm afraid he's probably going to have to take it.

GerryDerpy

Burial. wrote: »

It's sad there are more clowns wanting to come over to Boxing now. Stipe, that Danis fella, I think that bum Lobov said he wanted Khan as well. Hate to see an Irish man be the example to be made but Floyd really needs to put a historic beating on this guy. Clowns need to learn that stepping into a Boxing ring isn't a walk in the park. Anthony Joshua would kill Stipe or any other MMA fighter in the Boxing ring, I've no doubt about it. Conor is lucky Floyd doesn't have great power. But Conor is still at risk of some serious life threatening damage and I'm afraid he's probably going to have to take it.

So can we put you down for a round 1 KO?

Etc

This "event" has absolutely nothing to do with anything other than the payday. What it does show is McGregor, will go down in the early rounds because he's been outboxed, he'll take his 100 million and spend the rest of his life in and out of the Sunday times rich list.

And fair fcuks to him. This is about cash, not sport

Burial.

GerryDerpy wrote: »

So can we put you down for a round 1 KO?

Depends on the ref/Conor's corner. I'll have money on it though.

rossie1977

Seriously

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=etWbCUQ_68w

Jimmy Bottlehead wrote: »

I would call that waffle. WWE is a dramatic athletic show with predetermined results to mimic a (extremely unrealistic) fight.

This is a boxing match with two men who have quite large personalities.

It's completely different.

It reminds me of the WWE tough enough competition back in 1998 which was a legit shoot contest between a number of midcard guys. It was essentially a boxing tournament where take downs were allowed in oversized gloves. Everyone of the guys were out of their element and nearly everyone got badly hurt.

The winner came totally out of the blue and WWE then booked him in a legit boxing match on their biggest show of the year and he got totally embarrassed by butterbean who knocked him out cold

Rekop dog

Mayweather has less of a chance of beating Conor than Bellew had of beating Haye according to betfair right now and there's almost been 1 million matched.

I was expecting the pros to absolutely hammer Floyd in to an unbackable price but Conor seems to be given a punchers chance for whatever reason.

GerryDerpy

Burial. wrote: »

Depends on the ref/Conor's corner. I'll have money on it though.

Well credit to you for saying it. Many others won't.

Gamebred

Betfair and Paddy Power are manipulating the exchange price on Conor.

wonderfullife

Burial. wrote: »

Depends on the ref/Conor's corner. I'll have money on it though.

His corner will likely be John, Owen Roddy, Paschal Collins and Michael Conlan.

That's speculation obviously but it's shaping up that way.

Frank Bullitt

wonderfullife wrote: »

His corner will likely be John, Owen Roddy, Paschal Collins and Michael Conlan.

That's speculation obviously but it's shaping up that way.

The Freddie Roach rumour is dead then, at least we can put that one to bed.

Donald Trump

Rekop dog wrote: »

Mayweather has less of a chance of beating Conor than Bellew had of beating Haye according to betfair right now and there's almost been 1 million matched.

I was expecting the pros to absolutely hammer Floyd in to an unbackable price but Conor seems to be given a punchers chance for whatever reason.

Betting markets often just work off arbitrage. The broker just figures out how to make money.
Suppose 4 people put down 10 for mcG to win and 2 people puts down 10 for MW to win. Then if I'm the dealer I'll give 3:2 for MW and 1:4 for McG. I've taken 60 in bets
So if MW wins I pay out 2 X ( 15 + original 10 back) and keep 10 for myself
if McG wins I pay out 4 X (2.50 + 10) and keep 10 for myself
In other words, I don't care of the actual real likelihood, I just set the odds so that I can't lose!

If enough eejits are convinced that McG will win, they'll lay enough money down to shift the odds

walshb

Wondererfullife, you seem to be taking all this a little bit too seriously..

I will be actually be rooting for Conor..not because I am a fan, more for the WTF just happened.

I give him next to no chance to win.

I have a feeling that this will be a staged con of a fight.

wonderfullife

walshb wrote: »

Wonderfullife, you seem to be taking all this a little bit too seriously..

I will be actually be rooting for Conor..

I give him next to no chance to win.

I have a feeling that this will be a staged con of a fight.

It's just frustrating when people say Conor will get destroyed and in the next breath say if he wins it's a "staged con".

It's like no matter what he does he can't get credit (if he deserves it).

I think anyone suggesting Floyd will lose on purpose and bring his record to 49-1 needs their head examined. He's filed for 6 trademarks for 50-0.

Burial.

Floyd on BetStars went from 1/7 to 1/12 very quick this morning. Some poker sickos lumping their rolls.

Gamebred

wonderfullife wrote: »

It's just frustrating when people say Conor will get destroyed and in the next breath say if he wins it's a "staged con".

It's like no matter what he does he can't get credit (if he deserves it).

I think anyone suggesting Floyd will lose on purpose and bring his record to 49-1 needs their head examined. He's filed for 6 trademarks for 50-0.

I have to agree with the fence sitting from some people Floyds either a certainty or not cant be predicting an easy win then saying ''but'',

It would ruin combat sports if he took a dive and probably get him prison time, no chance, Floyd will win and win easy 1.2 on betfair is an incredible price but my greed will force me lump on the tko.

walshb

wonderfullife wrote: »

It's just frustrating when people say Conor will get destroyed and in the next breath say if he wins it's a "staged con".

It's like no matter what he does he can't get credit (if he deserves it).

I think anyone suggesting Floyd will lose on purpose and bring his record to 49-1 needs their head examined. He's filed for 6 trademarks for 50-0.

I agree. Mayweather won't be in it to lose. By staged con I mean that something between the two parties to make this not a legitimate boxing match where both men are free to win and try their best to do so...