jonnycivic wrote: » OP it would be very hard for 16 staff all to be on the same pay unless they all started at the exact same time and negotiated the exact same raises etc.
pilly wrote: » Absolutely nothing you can do about it and it's a very bad idea to use someone else's salary as an argument. Only argument should be what are your skills worth.
duffman13 wrote: » Cheers for all the replies. About half the team started at the same time with people being brought in over the years. They all have the same contract and have a definitive salary for the job role across the board. Everyone knows what each other gets paid because it's been discussed among themselves and with there union.They have been given raises over the years and everyone has got the same raises, they have all been union negotiated. To the other poster, It is private sector.
duffman13 wrote: » If it appears i suggested that then I came across wrong, from a legal stand point I was more curious to see where she stood which is obviously nowhere. She's going to have a discussion with her line manager about a salary review and see what happens.
TallGlass wrote: » Unless like this guy who showed it in black and white, word of mouth is nothing to go on. People will just say they get the same as others just to down play and avoid situations like this. If the guy who whipped out the payslip had any cop on he would have kept the mouth shut. There's nothing you can do. Look at market rates for the role and workload and try fight your own corner, you'll lose points in the fight if you bring other workers into it. Otherwise if you don't like it get another job that pays what you expect. Sorry about the harshness of it but it is what it is.
TheAnalyst_ wrote: » Go to communist Russia if you want equal pay. His pay was agreed between the employer and himself when he was hired. Nothing to do with anyone else. Getting worked up over a pittance as well. It's probably an extra 2500 per year.
duffman13 wrote: » Cheers, I think the arrogance of what he did is what pissed her off more, I'm in a role were everybody is on different money but nobody ever discloses it as it just causes issues within the business.
ibarelycare wrote: » More than €200 extra in your pocket a month isn't pittance to most people.
ForestFire wrote: » That's before tax which will never see that your pocket:) Around €100 euro if on the top rate of tax.
myshirt wrote: » It's not. It's 5k before tax, 2.5 after. So 200 a month. According to the prophecy.
ForestFire wrote: » Sorry missed that point, So from that I think we can all tell they are on the upper tax band, which puts them over 40K for single person and 60k for partners with only one income.
mockingjay wrote: » This post reminds me of when I was a young naive person working in London, a guy befriended me early on and I was glad of the help, however, it turns out he was sussing my salary and got it out of me in a roundabout way - he went straight to HR and demanded more money - I got called in and received a verbal warning for discussing it with him - I was devastated, kept the job but hated him, and as I made new friends I warned them all. However, the question your friend needs to ask is - is it worth the hassle, if he is called into the boss the office might become hostile, and some of that will be directed towards her. He may have been headhunted, may have more qualifications, more experience or more importantly he may have family connections - I just don't think it's worth the hassle, if she feels she is worth more money she needs to bring the "I" question to her boss rather than telling tales on someone else, this will make her look petty, the boss agreed his salary and now she is challenging the bosses decision! He must have sold himself well - so she needs to take a leaf out of his book, he sounds arrogant indeed, but he's not there as wallpaper.
ibarelycare wrote: Why would he get in trouble? An employer can't forbid employees from discussing their salaries with each other.
pilly wrote: » It can actually be in some contracts. I've seen it.
Stheno wrote: » Me too
ForestFire wrote: » How did he learn that all the rest of the staff received a productivity Bonus? Were they all discussing this together at the time and in front of him? So he saw everyone boasting about there rise so he showed he salary and he is the only one arrogant??
duffman13 wrote: » It was recognition awards for end of year, all top performers got it, it was announced in the office on a Friday afternoon. Nobody was bragging about it.
ForestFire wrote: » Did they announce the pay rise figure and their new wage with the award? How did he know when he put his wage slip down it would be more than others? Everybody seems to know what everyone is on by the sounds of it, and nobody had to look at his slip even if he left it out. But as others have said there is not much can be done except make your own case about what you bring to the company and what you think you are worth, without referring to others
ForestFire wrote: » I've seen it too in previous companies, but it must be a bit of a grey area. I mean your allowed tell you partner? Kids? Friends, bank for mortgage etc. What if your work college is just a good friend? What if you partner discusses it with your work colleagues partner? How much can they actually stop you doing this?
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