Claw Hammer wrote: » They don't have to be white. I had a yellow fridge freezer once. The environmental inspector didn't complain about it.
jamesthepeach wrote: » It's the law to have the white goods.
wordofwarning wrote: » IMO the most bizarre is a 4 ring hob rule. It is probably a half baked attempt to outlaw tenements, but when is a single person in a studio apartment likely to use the 4 ring collectively? Even with a massive spread at Xmas, I use 3 rings at most and one of them is for a few mins. You can will see incredible apartments in Germany, Italy and Spain with only 2 rings as that is all most people need. But Irish people still need 4 rings under the law I think the funniest is when tenants first move in and you get calls about the broken oven or the washing machine not draining. You call the former tenants only to discover either they never used the washing machine in 2 years or they only used the oven twice, so they don't know if it is broken. Yet you have to supply appliances to tenants who will never use them
_Kaiser_ wrote: » That's not the point.. it's an eventuality that is supposed to be covered by the security deposit, not an excuse by some chancer agency/LL to try and squeeze a few hundred more from a tenant. I wouldn't be entertaining it anyway and, as above, I've left most places I've rented better than I found them.
Pkiernan wrote: » Clean tenants have nothing to fear from cleaning deposits. Only dirty tenants do.
crossmolinalad wrote: » Wish that the houses you renting were empty Al the stuff in it are most of the time rubbish tasteless stuff nobody wants Every house I ever rented we used one bedroom to put in all the furniture carpets kitchen stuff and "decorations" in owned by the landlord Repainting and decorating the house in decent colors and putting in normal looking floorings Putting in our own white goods (wont use rubbish from others) and our own furniture loads of landlords don't have any taste of color schemes they have all of them the magnolia sickness ,seen furniture they don't want them their self so dump it in the house we letting out Carpets are left overs or cheap stuff nobody wants Same in the kitchen cutlery plates mugs whatever its something from everything coming from their own kitchen or a recycling/charity shop Don't understand the system here , most of the EU countries you renting an empty house The tenant has to bring his/her own stuff in and has when they leaving ,left the house empty again
_Kaiser_ wrote: » And for balance, there's many "professional agents" who don't bother with such things before letting to a new tenant/customer either. When I moved into my current place it certainly hadn't been "deep cleaned" or really cleaned at all, the kettle had to be thrown out and replaced straight away due to the amount of limescale damage, and the bathrooms needed a good scrub as well. I don't mind so much as I did all these things without making an issue of it, but I certainly won't be paying for "professional cleaning" or listening to similar excuses when it comes to getting my deposit back. The place will in fact be in better shape than I got it as indeed it is already now.
_Kaiser_ wrote: » Well the way I look at it is that it's the LL's property, but my home while I'm there - and I like a clean, tidy place. To me it's just about me being comfortable.
jamesthepeach wrote: » I once had a tenant who gave me back.the place better than I gave it to her. I didn't think it was possible. She was fantastic. Few and far between though.
_Kaiser_ wrote: » I'll give you a shout when I'm on the lookout again But seriously, I have always done the same. I treat it as a professional service with a blt of cop on and accommodation (no pun intended ) when needed. I don't bother them unnecessarily and vice versa, and the rent is always paid first come pay-day. I completely get that there are a lot of tenants out there who treat it as a "who cares" necessary evil on the glorious road to ownership, but there are a lot of professional, mature people (like myself) out there too who just want to rent a decent place with a decent landlord, and without all the drama you read about on this forum.
jamesthepeach wrote: » I would have loved a tenant like you.
wordofwarning wrote: » I imagine the agent is protecting the landlord from the usual Irish tenant, who seems to the think the deposit is to 'cover for the last month rent'. If the tenant does that, landlord has no protection for getting a potential cleaning paid for. IMO I think tenants should be made pay for a deep cleaning from a professional. Even giving a tenant, a blow by blow account of what they are to clean eg dust above skirting, remove scuff marks with Cif, vacuum under bed etc. I have yet to see a 4 bedroom house, where I haven't had to spent 3/4 hours cleaning it after the tenant 'cleaned it'. Some tenants think emptying the bins and washing the floor is a sufficient cleaning
Claw Hammer wrote: » This is not New York, things are different here. The RTB does not enfoce a give back what you got standard. A carpet may have been professionally cleaned before being given to a teant. At the end of the letting the tenant does not have to have it professionally cleaned again. Carpets in the normal cours suffer wear and collect some dirt. That is normal wear and tear. Unless items are destroyed and are beyond repair will the RTB hold the tenant responsible.
jamesthepeach wrote: » Dirt isn't normal wear and tear. But if it's as clean as you got it then no reason that you would lose that portion of the deposit. I thought everyone we charging 1 month in advance plus 2 months deposit now anyway. When I rented in new York we had to pay a decoration fee. It was $500 on top of first and last months rent plus deposit. You didn't get the 500 back. That was just for cleaning and redecorating after you moved out to put the place back into the same state of repair you rented it in.
Claw Hammer wrote: » No. If normal wear and tear makes it less clean, tough on the landlord.
Browney7 wrote: » Well, if you are given the property deep cleaned and LL has pics and receipts to this effect wouldn't and shouldn't you have to give it back in a deep cleaned state?
