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BoatMad

Had it confirmed by Nissan Ireland , 2018 leaf will debut with 40 kWh battery !

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[Deleted User]

The Ioniq supports 100 Kw charging but the 28 Kwh would only charge at this rate for a very short time.

100 Kw is still far better then the 45 Kw of the 24 Kwh Leaf then slows down to about 35 Kw from 50% and then gets slower and slower as the battery % rises.

bp_me

Deleted User wrote: »

Not sure, I just hope the interior is not too much hard plastics.

It would be cool with 40-50 Kwh and 150 Kw charging.

I haven't actually been in the hybrid but assume it will have the same interior. Battery and charging is likely to be as per the ioniq. Hopefully the larger supposedly upcoming ioniq battery.

[Deleted User]

Not sure, I just hope the interior is not too much hard plastics.

It would be cool with 40-50 Kwh and 150 Kw charging.

bp_me

Deleted User wrote: »

I wouldn't mind an Xtrail either, at least it's got more space.

I'd love a car I can fit 2 child seats and an Adult in the rear.

Unfortunately I'll have little choice in 2018, Leaf II or Ioniq if it has more range than current. Ioniq currently has too little range advantage over the Leaf to be bothered after 3 years of 110-130 Km range.

Kia Niro EV supposedly on the way for 2018. Though that might be the US target and not Europe?

who_ru

goz83 wrote: »

The grey plaster on the front of the Ioniq significantly takes from it's otherwise good looks. But even with a proper front, the new leaf looks nicer imo

I've seen it colour coded with a brown Ioniq and looked ok, but overall Hyundai need to do something with that front end.

goz83

who_ru wrote: »

Don't agree at all that it looks nicer than the Ioniq. From where it was coming from the Leaf could only have improved in terms of looks.

Ioniq still looks better than it now.

The grey plaster on the front of the Ioniq significantly takes from it's otherwise good looks. But even with a proper front, the new leaf looks nicer imo

who_ru

Don't agree at all that it looks nicer than the Ioniq. From where it was coming from the Leaf could only have improved in terms of looks.

Ioniq still looks better than it now.

goz83

Way nicer. Just don't watch the video. shiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiite

Fiskar

Looks far nicer than the Ioniq

Soarer

I'm gonna put this link here, taken from woppers' post in the Ioniq thread. If it looks anything like the rendered image, it'll be class.

Recommended to skip forward to 1:49.

New Leaf Details.

BrianD3

BoatMad wrote: »

sloppy reporting to

"Along with its new look, Nissan?s next-gen zero-emission hatch will also use an improved electric drivetrain that?s predicted to have a range of up to 340 miles"

340 km maybe but certainly not miles

340 miles is about 550 kms which is a "nice" figure for marketing purposes. The Opel Ampera-e which has "disastrous" aerodynamics according to the designer has a NEDC range of 520 kms. I would say 550 km NEDC is very plausible for a Leaf II with a 60 kWh battery. As NEDC is the standard in Europe even if very unrealistic, it makes sense for autocar to talk about NEDC ranges (and convert from kms to miles for the British audience)

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[Deleted User]

Yes the current Leaf with work charging meets pretty much all my needs, I am seriously thinking about keeping it another year unless the new Leaf can self drive on the motorway that would be a huge deal for me especially coming off night shifts but even if I were not it would be a tremendous benefit on congesting motorways.

If Leaf II can charge faster that would be another + because I like to go for the odd drive with my two Sons sometimes when off shift.

I'll be test driving Zoe in 2 weeks hopefully which will give me an idea of how I will like a longer range EV and my guess is that I will really like the range which could encourage me to go further more often.

grogi

[Deleted User] wrote: »

I wouldn't mind an Xtrail either, at least it's got more space.

I'd love a car I can fit 2 child seats and an Adult in the rear.

Unfortunately I'll have little choice in 2018, Leaf II or Ioniq if it has more range than current. Ioniq currently has too little range advantage over the Leaf to be bothered after 3 years of 110-130 Km range.

Perhaps I could extend the Lease on the Leaf another year.

You have said that the current Leaf covers your driving needs more than adequately... I wouldn't change it just yet.

And about fitting one big and two small people in the back - unless you go MPV route, it is very hard... None of the current events, excpet for ModelS which is seven seater, will be an improvement. Not sure about ModelX

[Deleted User]

I wouldn't mind an Xtrail either, at least it's got more space.

I'd love a car I can fit 2 child seats and an Adult in the rear.

Unfortunately I'll have little choice in 2018, Leaf II or Ioniq if it has more range than current. Ioniq currently has too little range advantage over the Leaf to be bothered after 3 years of 110-130 Km range.

Perhaps I could extend the Lease on the Leaf another year.

grogi

Deleted User wrote: »

I'd like an estate.

Nissan does not sell any estate atm, difficult to imagine they would make an EV one. What Joe Average wants are big wheelz in his SUV to drive kids to school.

cros13

Estates are a long way down the road... too small a market right now.

SUVs will be the bulk of the 2018 crop. Nissan due to come out with an SUV too in the next 2 years.

[Deleted User]

What ? lol I want luggage space, I don't like being cramped in cars either. Leaf is fine and spacious and plenty of head room. But the boot is ****, I'd say this about all hatches too by the way.

I'd like an estate.

Water John

Mad Lad, are you as tall as James Comey, or Devin Toner?

[Deleted User]

I just want specs, don't even want to see it lol.

I could really do with a larger EV , seriously the Leaf is too small !

cros13

Yup announcement due September 6th according the Norwegian EV owners... they had an event for 30,000 Leafs sold in their local market and one of the Nissan people mentioned it in the presentations.

[Deleted User]

Teaser PIC of Leaf II headlight.

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BoatMad

Fireball14013 wrote: »

https://www.autocar.co.uk/car-news/new-cars/2018-nissan-leaf-%E2%80%93-striking-design-previewed-first-image

sloppy reporting to

"Along with its new look, Nissan’s next-gen zero-emission hatch will also use an improved electric drivetrain that’s predicted to have a range of up to 340 miles"

340 km maybe but certainly not miles

Fireball14013

https://www.autocar.co.uk/car-news/new-cars/2018-nissan-leaf-%E2%80%93-striking-design-previewed-first-image

unkel

Maybe we should just have one big thread in this forum, every thread is about everything anyway

@isnottheword - your guess is as good as mine. I've picked up on availability in recent weeks mainly from posters on this forum. And from what I've gathered there does seem to be a few cars coming into the country (mainly white, some black?) but if you order your own one, it will take a long time.

Moreilly

Deleted User wrote: »

Lads this is a Leaf thread....

Grand car though......

[Deleted User]

Lads this is a Leaf thread....

ethernet

isnottheword wrote: »

@unkel : Point made well. However, are delivery times improving on the Ioniq? Noticed one or two recent posters over on the Ioniq thread saying they had ordered up and the waiting period didn't seem as long...unless I misunderstood...

Snap. Hyundai in Airside still saying October for next availability :eek:

On a side note, I hope the new Leaf has that black/orange ("Energy Orange") option that the new Micra has. Something oddly nice about it.

grogi

isnottheword wrote: »

is the scrappage deal still running?

Is running AGAIN...

isnottheword

goz83 wrote: »

Apparently a couple of black and white ones are available sooner

is the scrappage deal still running?

goz83

isnottheword wrote: »

@unkel : Point made well. However, are delivery times improving on the Ioniq? Noticed one or two recent posters over on the Ioniq thread saying they had ordered up and the waiting period didn't seem as long...unless I misunderstood...

Apparently a couple of black and white ones are available sooner