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Paddy The Pirate

Is the old pint of pure dying a death?
Seems like every second pub I visit is serving absolute muck!

Don't know if there's a downturn in drinkers, and, as a result, care for quality, or if I'm just in the wrong pubs !

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https://www.buzzfeed.com/lukebailey/guinness-two-pour-is-the-greatest-marketing-con?utm_term=.ckavD4VKYJ#.mjjpzMK2rl

Annasopra

To Marl Marx

Peregrine

Is this thread actually happening? People complaining about Guinness?

Galwayguy35

iLikeWaffles wrote: »

One of them are ya. Can never understand that, if a pints not to your liking your entitled to get a refund or replacement even after you paid for it.

Yes I am.

And the reason for is was I didn't get a refund when it happened one time that I got a bad pint and had already paid for it.

andekwarhola

iLikeWaffles wrote: »

What are you talking about its completely necessary. Unless of course you like a pint to contain less than a pint and taste like crap. Ever try carry a full to the brim pint of water through a busy crowd. That centimetre serves many purposes!

Modern nitro Guinness will be the same if you pour it slowly in one go.

It's also served so cold you can barely taste it. Compare it to a bottle of something like Guinness Foreign Extra Stout (that's not freezing) to experience what a stout tastes like.

Likewise, the staunch views about the quality of Guinness pints is usually illusory and a social trope. Guinness is one of the most popular drinks in the world and they take quality pretty seriously. Pints mostly taste exactly like they're supposed to unless somebody has done something stupid like not cleaning the glasses properly. Nothing to do with the type of pour or other myths.

[Deleted User]

Peregrine wrote: »

Is this thread actually happening? People complaining about Guinness?

Shocking stuff, any non cork irish person who complains about guinness is a race traitor as far as I'm concerned.

henryporter

Peregrine wrote: »

Is this thread actually happening? People complaining about Guinness?

It's the way the world has gone - bunch of handbag wearing makeup sporting metrosexuals complaining about a drink they're not hard enough to handle

endacl

ToddyDoody wrote: »

Guiness is probably the only ale someone could poo in and you wouldn't notice.

(Not that anyone wanted to know that)

Archimedes begs to differ.

:pac:

Ken Tucky

Don't get the love for O'Hara stout. Maybe it's the nice bottle but don't rate it much. Best craft spurs I've had are McGargles stout export and Brehon brewhouse shanco dubh?. Powerful stuff though.
Still a couple of pubs in Dublin serving consistent great Guinness. One is the other end of Fleet street. Can anyone guess it's name

murpho999

Wanderer78 wrote: »

Vile drink

Really, so what would you normally drink in a pub?

andekwarhola

Ken Tucky wrote: »

Don't get the love for O'Hara stout.

It's just a standard Nitro stout to be in the same space as Guinness.

Try their Leann Follainn on draught if you can find it. It's much nicer (and stronger).

faceman

I agree about the earlier comments on the coldness of Guinness. It's ideal temperature is 5c. Anything colder kills the flavour. It's stout after all not lager.

Funnily enough Guinness when it first started brewed ale not stout. When they saw how popular stout (or Porter as it was officially known) was in London back in the 1700's they took a gamble and switched to making stout/porter instead.

Also the 2 minute 2 pour thing is unnecessary. In 2002 Guinness trialled a system which dispensed pints in 25 seconds. However bizarrely customers preferred the longer 2 minute 2 pour thing even though the taste was identifiable. Notions people, notions.

OldMrBrennan83

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andekwarhola

Patww79 wrote: »

Like any of these things, it can always be taken that you can tack on 'for me' at the end of it, same as everyone does. I certainly don't like my Guinness to be 5c if I can get it colder than that. And likewise, that isn't blanket correct either, just how I like it.

Each to their own but it's seems strange when self-proclaimed Guinness aficionados like to drink it at a temperature that means they can barely taste it.

[Deleted User]

Guuiness doesn't need to be too cold. Unless you don't want to taste it!

whoopsadoodles

Most people you ask in dublin will say Mulligans of poolbeg street serve the best guinness but I always find theirs too cold.

Would love a few pints now watching the match.....

OldMrBrennan83

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[Deleted User]

Only had the Guinness foreign export stuff in the past year. Lovely stuff. Pretty strong actually(7.5%) I think it's the stuff that sells very well in Nigeria(on tap).

Highly recommend.

Holy Diver

The foreign extra stuff is mighty tack.

I must try the West Indies stuff.

I must say I find pubs where the Guinness is not too cold generally have nicer Guinness. Smoother and creamier to me

Ken Tucky

whoopsadoodles wrote: »

Most people you ask in dublin will say Mulligans of poolbeg street serve the best guinness but I always find theirs too cold.

Would love a few pints now watching the match.....

I am having nice ones watching the match but for some reason they taste muck...your better off ðŸ˜‰

Ken Tucky

whoopsadoodles wrote: »

Most people you ask in dublin will say Mulligans of poolbeg street serve the best guinness but I always find theirs too cold.

Would love a few pints now watching the match.....

I am having nice ones watching the match but for some reason they taste muck...your better off ðŸ˜‰

faceman

I've drinker the Guinness bottled brew they sell in Kenya. It's tastes like a sugary dark lager. Awful but massively popular.

Guinness tailors their recipes for their markets as opposed to creating one taste for all. It takes away for the brand imo when that is the case and makes it less about the pride of your product. It's one thing Coke has over most global drinkable products, as bad as they are.

Testament1

andekwarhola wrote: »

Try their Leann Follainn on draught if you can find it. It's much nicer (and stronger).

Currently supping a bottle of this at home. Grand stuff. Haven't had the Guinness Foreign Extra in years, can't even remember what it tastes like, must get some again soon!

[Deleted User]

Paddy The Pirate wrote: »

Is the old pint of pure dying a death?

Hopefully.

Guinness, the greatest conjob in the history of marketing in Ireland. Fair play to them.

A more English drink than porter is hard to conceive of (even ale has been drunk in Ireland for centuries longer than Guinness), a company with a history of widespread discrimination against Irish Catholics (its first Catholic manager was only appointed in the late 1940s, after WW2 had left them with a shortage from their traditional recruitment pool - to be euphemistic about it) is equally difficult to imagine - but most of the banks, insurance companies and equally unIrish whiskey distillery families gave them a mighty run for their money when it came to keeping the Tadhgs out.

And then there is the Guinness company's strong opposition to Irish independence and financing and political support for British rule over Ireland/unionism. Google Guinness and "Easter Rising" and you'll get an idea. Not to mention that Guinness has officially been a British company since the 1930s.

As I said, fair play to Guinness for getting a large number of Irish people to see their company, of all companies, as a symbol of Irish identity and indeed to get defensive when the decidedly anti-Irish politics of Guinness is highlighted. Marketing genius at a truly inspirational level.

Real story of 250-year quest for the perfect pint

Rumpy Pumpy

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Hopefully.

Guinness, the greatest conjob in the history of marketing in Ireland. Fair play to them for showing the thick in Paddy.

A more English drink than porter is hard to conceive of (even ale has been drunk in Ireland for centuries longer than Guinness), a company with a history of widespread discrimination against Irish Catholics (its first Catholic manager was only appointed in the late 1940s, after WW2 had left them with a shortage from their traditional recruitment pool - to be euphemistic about it) is equally difficult to imagine - but most of the banks, insurance companies and equally unIrish whiskey distillery families gave them a mighty run for their money when it came to keeping the Tadhgs out.

And then there is the Guinness company's strong opposition to Irish independence and financing and political support for British rule over Ireland/unionism. Google Guinness and "Easter Rising" and you'll get an idea. Not to mention that Guinness has officially been a British company since the 1930s.

As I said, fair play to Guinness for getting a large number of Irish people to see their company, of all companies, as a symbol of Irish identity and indeed to get defensive when the decidedly anti-Irish politics of Guinness is highlighted. Marketing genius at a truly inspirational level.

Real story of 250-year quest for the perfect pint

What alcoholic beverage should a true Son of Róisín consume? Looking to be the finest Gael I can be, and don't want my pint tainted with the bitter taste of English oppression on this island.

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Rumpy Pumpy wrote: »

What alcoholic beverage should a true Son of Róisín consume? Looking to be the finest Gael I can be, and don't want my pint tainted with the bitter taste of English oppression on this island.

Drink whatever you like. This lark of Irish people pratting on about Guinness being some super Irish statement of identity given the reality of that company is what I oppose. And it's always pathetic to see Irish people get defensive - as if their own concept of Irishness were in danger - when it's pointed out that Guinness is, in fact, a British company and not an Irish one.

flutered

andekwarhola wrote: »

Modern nitro Guinness will be the same if you pour it slowly in one go.

It's also served so cold you can barely taste it. Compare it to a bottle of something like Guinness Foreign Extra Stout (that's not freezing) to experience what a stout tastes like.

Likewise, the staunch views about the quality of Guinness pints is usually illusory and a social trope. Guinness is one of the most popular drinks in the world and they take quality pretty seriously. Pints mostly taste exactly like they're supposed to unless somebody has done something stupid like not cleaning the glasses properly. Nothing to do with the type of pour or other myths.

you have never drank it here abouts, a nice creamy pint, well thats someting you read about, but never get to experience, brown bitter tasting crap is plentifull, a pint of something which leaves the glass as clean as if you had a pint of water, all freely advailable for top price

Son Of A Vidic

Paddy The Pirate wrote: »

Is the old pint of pure dying a death?
Seems like every second pub I visit is serving absolute muck!!

Every second pub? In my experience, I'd say 9 out of 10 pubs are serving up pure shyte! Quality Guinness has been dying a death for the last 20 years.

OldMrBrennan83

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tomwaterford

Patww79 wrote: »

Hopefully? Who exactly is force feeding it you you?

Irregardless of its history as pointed out by F

The way its forced into every semi celebs/dignatory hand that visits ireland is beyond cringworthy at this stage.