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Guinness

Paddy The Pirate

Is the old pint of pure dying a death?
Seems like every second pub I visit is serving absolute muck!

Don't know if there's a downturn in drinkers, and, as a result, care for quality, or if I'm just in the wrong pubs !

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OldMrBrennan83

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Your Face

I always get nice pints.

Academic

Noveight wrote: »

Murphy's for me, miles ahead of Guinness imo.

Have been meaning to try other less popular stouts.

Apples and oranges. They're stylistically quite different. A question of personal preference.

Beamish, on the other hand, is a more appropriate comparison.

suicide_circus

I drink a cheeky little triple hopped IPA called Tosser's Burden. You probably haven't heard if it.

Arghus

A Guinness in a "good" Guinness pub is about as lovely a drink as you can get.

whoopsadoodles

Chancer3001 wrote: »

I know a fella working in the brewery.

He says the mix has changed for the cheaper in the last decade. And to make up for this they set the taps to a colder temperature. So cold that's it's almost flavourlrss and it's the consistency you're enjoying more than the taste.

Only way you get good pints now is with temperature control set by the man behind the bar , and short run from keg to tap.

You're only likely to find this in out of the way bars where the quality control team would never check.

Which is why Guinness often tastes way better in old man pubs or small country pubs

Well that's interesting because I know someone who works for diageo and according to him, Guinness look after all of their own pints and taps. Also according to him, the difference then in pints between pubs is 1. The pourer and 2. The detergent with which the glasses are washed.

I'm not saying he's right and your lad is wrong btw, just that it's interesting to have two different opinions from staff.

There are still a fair few decent spots to get a pint in Dublin. Anywhere that you'd call a bar rather than a pub though, I wouldn't even bother trying.

RayM

The only (alcoholic) drink I'd ever have in a pub is Guinness (or occasionally Murphy's, depending on where I am), but I don't drink it often enough to be able to tell the difference between a good pint and a poor one. I'd prefer if it wasn't served chilled though - I don't like any cold drinks.

Arghus

RayM wrote: »

The only (alcoholic) drink I'd ever have in a pub is Guinness (or occasionally Murphy's, depending on where I am), but I don't drink it often enough to be able to tell the difference between a good pint and a poor one. I'd prefer if it wasn't served chilled though - I don't like any cold drinks.

A bad pint tastes awful and a good pint is smooth creamy goodness.

Senna

whoopsadoodles wrote: »

Well that's interesting because I know someone who works for diageo and according to him, Guinness look after all of their own pints and taps. Also according to him, the difference then in pints between pubs is 1. The pourer and 2. The detergent with which the glasses are washed.

I'm not saying he's right and your lad is wrong btw, just that it's interesting to have two different opinions from staff.

There are still a fair few decent spots to get a pint in Dublin. Anywhere that you'd call a bar rather than a pub though, I wouldn't even bother trying.

Guinness used to clean the lines every week, they cut that back to every month now. They obviously know that once a month isn't enough and if the bar staff aren't cleaning the lines the other 3 weeks of the month, the beer will be terrible.

As for the bottles of stout, the old lads in the bar would always ask to see the bottle before opening it, if it was in date, it would be "too new" and they'd ask if there was any "past their date", out of date by a month or two was always preferred.

iLikeWaffles

CeilingFly wrote: »

I'd disagree - what has changed is the temperature it is served at. The more chilled, the less taste.

Pint bottles at about 12 degrees will give you a real taste of Guinness and other stouts / dark beers.

Remember the blue labelled taps in pubs mostly in the lounge (extra cold) 3.5°. It was double chilled so colder than the normal red label 6° that they serve in the bar part of a pub. Double chilled and double filled!

Paddy The Pirate

Well,
Tis time to report back.

Even if tastes shÃite, bad Guinness still makes one intoxicated, very much so.

demanufactured

Much better stouts out there.
Murphys is much better than Guinness.

Oharas stout is the nicest I've tasted

allthedoyles

demanufactured wrote: »

Much better stouts out there.
Murphys is much better than Guinness.

Oharas stout is the nicest I've tasted

Proof of pudding is always in the eating .

CaptainR

Paddy The Pirate wrote: »

Well,
Tis time to report back.

Even if tastes shÃite, bad Guinness still makes one intoxicated, very much so.

I honestly pity your toilet. In about 6-7 hours from now, its going to have a rude awakening.

up for anything

suicide_circus wrote: »

I drink a cheeky little triple hopped IPA called Tosser's Burden. You probably haven't heard if it.

Is it called that because after few you can't?

timthumbni

Noveight wrote: »

Murphy's for me, miles ahead of Guinness imo.

Have been meaning to try other less popular stouts.

Like my murphies, I'm not bitter.....

(Great ad from England in the 90s) (I was the first boy in cork to kiss her)

Anyways I think stout tastes like the devils pisswater. Vile ashtray tasting stuff.

Galwayguy35

I remember the oul fellas used to drink the pint bottles of Guinness.

Although even even up to 30 years ago in the small villages there wasn't much of a choice, it was usually 3 taps with Guinness, Smithwicks or Harp.

If I order a pint I always taste it before paying the barman, was given a pint of Heineken once that was the colour of an orange skin and handed it straight back to him.

You're paying for a product, it's up to the person selling it to ensure it's good quality especially if it's E5 or more a pint.

arayess

never got the love for guinness

Wanderer78

arayess wrote:

never got the love for guinness

Vile drink

iLikeWaffles

Galwayguy35 wrote: »

I remember the oul fellas used to drink the pint bottles of Guinness.

Although even even up to 30 years ago in the small villages there wasn't much of a choice, it was usually 3 taps with Guinness, Smithwicks or Harp.

If I order a pint I always taste it before paying the barman, was given a pint of Heineken once that was the colour of an orange skin and handed it straight back to him.

You're paying for a product, it's up to the person selling it to ensure it's good quality especially if it's E5 or more a pint.

One of them are ya. Can never understand that, if a pints not to your liking your entitled to get a refund or replacement even after you paid for it.

OldMrBrennan83

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Sky King

I like Guinness. Guidelines are 4 to 6 degrees serving temp. I like it at about 8 when you get the creamy mouthfeel and can taste the actual beer.

When it's too cold it's kinda watery. They tried extra cold here and it bombed but I've seen it in the uk a fair bit.

Testament1

Yourself isit wrote: »

That stuff is good. Can't find it anywhere.

Normal Guinness is the blandest of blandest tastes.

I get the West Indies bottles in Dunnes regularly enough. Haven't ever seen them in pubs here in Clare, though I haven't looked particularly hard for it either! Mighty stuff and you'll be cross eyed after a few bottles!

Zebra3

Guinness is so bland. Awful stuff.

Some great stouts/porters out there though.

Porter in Sweetman's is top notch.

demanufactured

Oharas leamn foilin

OldMrBrennan83

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Patww79 wrote: »

Quite a wait for everyone concerned too waiting for it to settle if it's stout before tasting and paying. I'm sure it's popular in a busy pub.

Pure theater not necessary at all.

Dravokivich

Senna wrote: »

Guinness used to clean the lines every week, they cut that back to every month now. They obviously know that once a month isn't enough and if the bar staff aren't cleaning the lines the other 3 weeks of the month, the beer will be terrible.

As for the bottles of stout, the old lads in the bar would always ask to see the bottle before opening it, if it was in date, it would be "too new" and they'd ask if there was any "past their date", out of date by a month or two was always preferred.

We're they drinking it in the toilet? That'll go right on through'em!

iLikeWaffles

jh79 wrote: »

Pure theater not necessary at all.

What are you talking about its completely necessary. Unless of course you like a pint to contain less than a pint and taste like crap. Ever try carry a full to the brim pint of water through a busy crowd. That centimetre serves many purposes!

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iLikeWaffles wrote: »

What are you talking about its completely necessary. Unless of course you like a pint to contain less than a pint and taste like crap. Ever try carry a full to the brim pint of water through a busy crowd. That centimetre serves many purposes!

Same result with a single pour, it was necessary years ago but not with the modern systems; Guiness decided to keep the two step pour for marketing reasons.