please helpThank YOU wrote: » I Think the reason Galway City knocked out Waterford City because Waterford City did not have a University?. But Limerick City does but if Limerick City did not have UL University then Galway would have knocked Limerick City out like what happened to Waterford City in the 1980s.
Onthatpoint417 wrote: » Limerick is only 15k ahead of Galway in urban population. And Galway is way ahead in terms of the diversity of its economy. It's a major centre for medical devices production. It's third level institutions are among the best outside Dublin. As a gauge of its magnetism it has the highest proportion of migrants in its population. There's no comparison!
timthumbni wrote: » I'm from Northern Ireland and I would agree totally with this. Newry is an absolute dive and was only given city status to appease the shinner heads after (unionist) Lisburn was going to be given city status. (Or vice versa) Lisburn and Armagh are the same and Londonderry is also just a rather unappealing largish town (by NI standards anyway) Belfast feels like a city. A smallish one by world comparison perhaps but a city nonetheless. The rest of the 4 so called cities in Norn Iron have young wans in tractors parked up on the main st on a Saturday night eating a bag of chips ffs.
timthumbni wrote: » I'm from Northern Ireland and I would agree totally with this. Newry is an absolute dive and was only given city status to appease the shinner heads after (unionist) Lisburn was going to be given city status. (Or vice versa) Lisburn and Armagh are the same and Derry is also just a rather unappealing largish town (by NI standards anyway) Belfast feels like a city. A smallish one by world comparison perhaps but a city nonetheless. The rest of the 4 so called cities in Norn Iron have young wans in tractors parked up on the main st on a Saturday night eating a bag of chips ffs.
Onthatpoint417 wrote: » I think people in the south forget how many large towns there are in the north. Derry is bigger than both Limerick and Galway while some of the towns around Belfast like Bangor, Newtownards, and Lisburn are around 60 or 70k. The latter though are part of greater Belfast. In that way Belfast has a similar urban structure to the conurbations of the north of England. The north coast around west county L'derry has many large enough towns close together like Coleraine, Portrush and Portstewart.
reason vs religion wrote: » Surely engineering-focused UL contributes more to the local economy than does NUIG?
Onthatpoint417 wrote: » Knocked out of what? Waterford is still considered one of Ireland's main cities. If you mean population then yes it's very conceivable the lack of a university contribute to Waterford's relative decline. This could also explain Galway's relative rise. UL is only around a couple of decades whereas Galway has had a university since the 19th century.
Silentcorner wrote: » UL was set up as an industry led University not an academic led entity, it is why today, graduates of UL have the highest rates of employment within 6 months of graduating than anywhere else in Ireland...it doesn't do anything for rankings however...indeed the entire 3rd level infrastructure in Limerick is now industry led...which is one of the reasons it is attracting large investments over the last number of years...
please helpThank YOU wrote: » Galway Ireland newest city 1985 a just few years older than UL University. Waterford City 1206, Limerick City 1199 .That is why Galway City 1985 feels like a small town it just 32years a city.
timthumbni wrote: » What population has cork? I've never been nor am I likely to go. Is it the 2nd largest city down south?
reason vs religion wrote: » Age alone doesn't explain population, hence Kilkenny (if we are even to admit it as a city) remains tiny. And city status was as much determined by political considerations. Galway county had a larger population pre-Famine than it does now, but reasons which can be read in the historical Galway wikipedia page suppressed it as a population centre.
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timthumbni wrote: » Thanks. 120 thousand? That's probably less than I though tbh. Dublin sounds like the only proper city in the south then..
reason vs religion wrote: » But what a city!
timthumbni wrote: » Dublin or cork??
please helpThank YOU wrote: » I do not not think it will knock Limerick City out there is way to much power and money there so Nice try Galway.:D
please helpThank YOU wrote: » Galway city wants to pass out Limerick City like it did Waterford City
goz83 wrote: » I consider a city to be main hub. A city must have the following in it. Airport Motorway Places of worship National Banks Public houses Museums Art Galleries A large number of restaurants Without these, it's not a city.
reason vs religion wrote: » ..it might be the only city, but what a city! (Dublin)
Onthatpoint417 wrote: » The Wikipedia pages on Irish cities are a serious LOL. They betray an obvious insecurity here about the sizes of Irish cities. For example On Galway: "According to the 2016 Irish Census, Galway city has a population of 79,504; however, the rural county agglomeration is far bigger." ???? The Dublin page says in the introduction that "The city has an urban area population of 1,345,402. The population of the Greater Dublin Area, as of 2016, was 1,904,806 people." What's quoted as the urban population is the population of the COUNTY! This error has been there for months. There's also a page on Metropolitan Cork that says "Metropolitan Cork is the core employment hub of the Greater Cork area." Please translate that for me!
Silentcorner wrote: » Way ahead in terms of diversity of economy???? That is simply nonsense... There is a much wider gap than 15k people, it is about 40k. Up to the 80s Galway was a provincial backwater, hence the inclusion in the BMW regions initiative ...where were its educational institutions then? Since then it has grown its tourism industry to the point of it overwhelming the ordinary citizens of the city (IMO)...it is dangerously dependent on the Medical Device sector...just like Limerick was dependent on Dell. Galway attracts so many different nationalities who are attracted to the service industry...most tourist towns would have a larger than normal presence of these people...no harm in that either... Since Dell destroyed the local economy in Limerick the city/region has attracted a host of different industries...but outside of FDI, Limerick, and indeed Waterford and Cork always had a healthy indigenous manufacturing/industrial culture...if it weren't for FDI Galwegians would be filling the jobs the immigrants have taken...
timthumbni wrote: » Ceratinly a great city. But one I haven't had much luck with. I was asked my religion outright a few times on a visit down there which in all my time in Belfast I have never been asked. This was in the central tourist area too. I thought originally that I wouldn't visit again but have decided to give it another try and stay in a decent hotel. Though as a city it's very expensive imho so my wallet will be saying NO.
Onthatpoint417 wrote: » The Wikipedia pages on Irish cities are a serious LOL. They betray an obvious insecurity here about the sizes of Irish cities. For example On Galway: "According to the 2016 Irish Census, Galway city has a population of 79,504; however, the rural county agglomeration is far bigger." ???
Omackeral wrote: » Do you realise that Galway isn't some sort of sentient being? It doesn't have feelings and it isn't capable of wanting things.
reason vs religion wrote: » I think you've should realise that those people who care about your religion (:D) are in a tiny minority. I could never imagine caring, let alone asking. Concentrate on all those who don't ask!
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