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Cost of building a house in 2016/17

ainemdg

What would be the cost per sqm of building a house in 2016? Single story/Dormer style. It will be in the country (Offaly) on a flat site. As I am an architectural technologist there would be no Architects fees, I will be submitting the application myself. No BCAR.

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FiOT

Donadea lad wrote: »

Are you allowed to self build now. I am a plumber and my father inlaw wants to come from abroad and do the block work.
I was told yeaterday that you are not allowed to self build any more.

Of course you can, self build is the only way we're able to afford to build. There was a time about 2 years ago where it wasn't possible but that has changed again.

Tough going though, make sure you know what you're getting yourself into!

Donadea lad

Thanks for that, I was just gona get the different trades in myself instead of paying a builder to do it. I have been working on construction for about 18 years.

BryanF

Donadea lad wrote: »

Thanks for that, I was just gona get the different trades in myself instead of paying a builder to do it. I have been working on construction for about 18 years.

Building control regs.
Hsa regs.
& Building regs:
http://www.housing.gov.ie/housing/building-standards/tgd-part-d-materials-and-workmanship/technical-guidance-documents

Bringing in different trades dilutes responsibility making you 'The self builder' ultimately responsible for compliance with the above.

kav2011

these figures might be of value to someone. completed a self build in midlands on my own half acre site. 2450 sq ft house with garage. This was built to 2015 regulations.
It has underfloor heating (air to water), concrete floors, stone work and is finished to a relatively high standard. Build cost for this was 163000. All in (professional fees, council fees, ESB connection, kitchen electrical appliances, every room fully furnished, pots, pans, yard levelled with stone, kerbs, self build insurance etc) the total cost was 189000. Outside i still need to do the lawn, fence around the site, tarmac (eventually).
I was able to do labour for foundation and all ground work between myself and family.

sheff the ref

The cheapest way to build is to do as much of the work as you possibly can do yourself. However there are a few factors

1.You need time and lots of it
2.You cannot be afraid of hard work in all weather conditions
3.You need to be useful in terms of what you can do with your hands
4.You cannot expect a turnkey house in 6 months

All these approximations and prices per square meter are misleading if you are in a position to manage and labour for yourself and build it over a longer period

Cows Go µ

I'm wondering if anyone here might be able to help me.

I'm currently saving up for a mortgage and I've now got my deposit but when I'm looking at houses I'm finding it difficult to find a house that has what I'm looking for. Therefore I was thinking that building a house might work better for me. My problem is that I have no idea how much a house would cost to build so I don't know if it's in my price range and I'm having trouble finding anything that would give a price for the type of house I want. All pricing estimates seem to be for much bigger houses than I want.

The house would just need to be basic, the standard kitchen, living room and two bedrooms. I don't care if it's one or two floors, whatever is cheaper. I'm talking less than 1000 square feet. For me the most important thing is land as I work with my dogs so I need about an acre.

Would anyone know roughly how much that would cost to build? I'd be looking to build it in West Cork, either Bandon or Macroom direction, if that helps.

BryanF

Site: https://www.daft.ie/11390584

Allow 200k to renovate & extend to give you 1000sqft

Cows Go µ

BryanF wrote: »

Site: https://www.daft.ie/11390584

Allow 200k to renovate & extend to give you 1000sqft

That one is on my radar but the fact that it doesn't show any pictures of the inside worries me. I'd say it would probably need some serious renovations.

I don't need to extend anything though. I literally just need somewhere to sleep and eat. A spare room would be a luxury for me to throw my extra crap into and maybe store some dog training equipment

Sponsorgate

Quoted 310,000 euro for a 2700sq foot 1 storey new build in West Cork. Approx 115 per sq foot. This a reasonable price?

368100

Sponsorgate wrote: »

Quoted 310,000 euro for a 2700sq foot 1 storey new build in West Cork. Approx 115 per sq foot. This a reasonable price?

Is that to turnkey finish?

Sponsorgate

368100 wrote: »

Is that to turnkey finish?

No , Exclusions include

Stoves to be supplied and fitted by specialists
Landscaping and grassing works
Well and associated works
Entrance walls
Tiling works
Paving to be supplied and fitted by other including tarmac to driveway
Santitary ware by client
Fitted furniture

nagsheader

The HorsesMouth wrote: »

Finished a 2300sq ft 1.5 storey house just under a year ago. Came in roughly at €190000. That included doing a few bits and pieces ourselves painting etc but nothing major as neither of us had much experience in building. All in all we probably saved €5000 - €7000 in doing work ourselves.

Spec is relatively good..A2 BER. Spent a good lot on insulation, air tightness etc. However a good many of the rooms are not finished..5 rooms in all are literally just concrete floors, skirting and whitewashed walls. No landscaping done either and the site was free aside from solicitor costs.

When we went in we of course thought we could do it for cheaper but it never works out like that unless you have a trade yourself. Still think getting in at €82 per square ft is decent going for the spec we got at the end despite the unfinished rooms/outside. If anyone wants any other particular costs or any more info feel free to ask!

We are looking at building something similar to you guys, 1.5 storey, 2300 sqft.

Did 190k include all professional fees and did you choose to 'opt in' or 'opt out' of the building regs?

I'd love to see the breakdown of your costs if you had them handy? We have mortgage approval of 200k but hard to know what we would need to sacrifice to achieve that figure.

Cheers

eire1987

The HorsesMouth wrote: »

Finished a 2300sq ft 1.5 storey house just under a year ago. Came in roughly at €190000. That included doing a few bits and pieces ourselves painting etc but nothing major as neither of us had much experience in building. All in all we probably saved €5000 - €7000 in doing work ourselves.

Spec is relatively good..A2 BER. Spent a good lot on insulation, air tightness etc. However a good many of the rooms are not finished..5 rooms in all are literally just concrete floors, skirting and whitewashed walls. No landscaping done either and the site was free aside from solicitor costs.

When we went in we of course thought we could do it for cheaper but it never works out like that unless you have a trade yourself. Still think getting in at €82 per square ft is decent going for the spec we got at the end despite the unfinished rooms/outside. If anyone wants any other particular costs or any more info feel free to ask!

Hi.

Myself and my wife are planning to build a passive house back home on a site (were in south of the country) I was wondering what was the budget you had for it??? We're trying to get it right from the start...

Any ideas/suggestions welcome

Regards
Eire

The HorsesMouth

nagsheader wrote: »

We are looking at building something similar to you guys, 1.5 storey, 2300 sqft.

Did 190k include all professional fees and did you choose to 'opt in' or 'opt out' of the building regs?

I'd love to see the breakdown of your costs if you had them handy? We have mortgage approval of 200k but hard to know what we would need to sacrifice to achieve that figure.

Cheers

190k included all fees because we built during that time where you had no choice to opt on or out..we had to get a certified engineer/architect to sign off on everything even though they had little to no input into the design of the house.

So a very rough breakdown is:
-Site clearing, foundations 17k (no surprises and great ground for building)
-Walls incl insulation 23k
-Roof (which was a cut roof as opposed to trusses) 26k
-Electrics (done by a friend for a good price) 11k
-plumbing incl solar 17k
-heat recovery 6k
-carpentry incl stairs/doors etc 10.5k
- Footpaths sewage systems etc 7k
-Windows and ext doors (incl sills) 18.5k
-Kitchen( handmade but not including appliances)9k
-Guttering system 3k
-Esb and water connections 3k
-Bathroom suites 4.5k
-Appliances( including 2 stoves) 8.5k
-Architect/solicitor fees 4k

The rest was spent on furniture, carpets, blinds and all that jazz.
Just want to reiterate the point that we've a lot of rooms still just empty including one bathroom and we also got a free site. Also we could have spent more on Windows/more glazing..so that had to be sacrificed..also out garden is pretty dreary so landscaping also had to out aside for a few years! unless you have 300-400k you are never going to get a finished landscaped house but you can definitely build a comfortable livable house for less. Just make sure you don't mind looking out at kerbless lawns for a few years!

Eire if you're looking for passiv then you're looking at spending a whole lot more...from what I hear the difference between B1/A2 and A1 is colossal. We have a fuel burning stove and that's why we would never have been passiv.

BryanF

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froshtyv

Just wondering if anyone has used a contractor to say get the house to a certain level and then finished the rest of themselves?

For example, get the contractor to do the following;

Site clearance
Foundations
Block Work
Roof
Windows.

Basically get the house to a water tight state.

I have recently purchased a site with full PP.
I am thinking of re designing the house and to possibly re submiting the plans to CC.

I am hoping to make some significant savings on the build myself.

Current size of the house which was submitted for planning is 2400sqft with a 430sqft garage
I will probably reduce this to somewhere around the 2000sqft mark, mainly for budget and practically.

Areas i am hoping to save on;
Drawing of initial house plans for engineer (not even sure this will make a difference)
Wiring the house myself 1st and 2nd fix. (slow process as this would be done in evenings & weekends but im not in a rush with the build and like anyone looking to keep costs down)
Install the underfloor heating myself and get help from a friend (plumber) for the 1st & 2nd fix plumbing.
Supply A2W heat pump along with ventilation myself as i have contacts in this area.
Paint the internals of house ourselves. (again not in a rush and cost savings)

My thought with using the contractor to get the house to a certain level was that arranging the different trades men to get to site on agreed days will prove difficult with working full time. A contractor will look after this.
I will explore both options to see where they come in price wise and go from there.

There has been some great figures given by people on here with what they have gotten for their money.
I am hoping to get a good standard of finish on the house for 200K

Any advice good or bad im all ears.

Nevins84

Hi just wondering if someone could help answer a question on building costs for a one off. I know that when it comes to pricing its like asking how long is a piece of string, what I was wondering is there a difference in sqm price when you compare say a bungalow at 180sqm compared to a dormer of 180sqm or full two story at 180sqm.
Its an idea myself and my partner are teasing out we will be ready to buy in new year but cant find anything we like in the price range so we may explore the building option but I was just wondering does bungalows/dormers/two story tend to differ on sqm price.
This might be a stupid question but id imagine someone on here may be able to answer.
Each option would be kept as simple as possible to keep costs down...

ustari

I believe bungalows are comparably more to build per sq metre as there are more external walls and roof compared to a 2 story of same size.

Would wait for clarification from someone that knows more about it however.

autumnbelle

Would love a rough guideline on what a 125m squared bungalow should cost to build. Getting prices of up to 300k. Also is it possible to self build now or is this all gone with the regulations now? We had a budget of 200k max. Have site already.

Jofspring

autumnbelle wrote: »

Would love a rough guideline on what a 125m squared bungalow should cost to build. Getting prices of up to 300k. Also is it possible to self build now or is this all gone with the regulations now? We had a budget of 200k max. Have site already.

Just did some quick maths on our current build and by the time we are finished it will most likely finish at €1,335 per sqm. Thats fully furnished, I'm in Limerick but I have noticed that prices have gone up since I sent out my tender last April.

I've gone with a builder and going by the hassle ive had with two parts of the build i have looked after myself (heating and windows), I'm glad the builder is looking after the rest.

autumnbelle

Jofspring wrote: »

Just did some quick maths on our current build and by the time we are finished it will most likely finish at €1,335 per sqm. Thats fully furnished, I'm in Limerick but I have noticed that prices have gone up since I sent out my tender last April.

I've gone with a builder and going by the hassle ive had with two parts of the build i have looked after myself (heating and windows), I'm glad the builder is looking after the rest.

That’s brilliant thanks, that’s more what I was expecting, we can’t even get quotes back off builders

sheff the ref

ustari wrote: »

I believe bungalows are comparably more to build per sq metre as there are more external walls and roof compared to a 2 story of same size.

Would wait for clarification from someone that knows more about it however.

Perhaps so, but with a bungalow, you have more bang for your buck in terms of less wasted space. Some of the hall and landing areas in two storey houses really use up a lot of space

gooner99

sheff the ref wrote: »

Perhaps so, but with a bungalow, you have more bang for your buck in terms of less wasted space. Some of the hall and landing areas in two storey houses really use up a lot of space

And maybe easier to details for air-tightness/ insulation/ ventilation to boot?

Perez2017

I have planning for a 1400 square foot 3 bedroom bungalow. Anyone have any idea of a price if I went direct labour? Builders quoting a fortune.

sheff the ref

You will definitely do better, but you need one vital ingredient..........time

I have been hands on in my house to date, labouring the block layer etc. installing the floor insulation etc. myself, but I would find it hard to envisage having the time to do that if I wasn't available to do it

You will also need an Engineer that is flexible regarding site visits.

Perez2017 wrote: »

I have planning for a 1400 square foot 3 bedroom bungalow. Anyone have any idea of a price if I went direct labour? Builders quoting a fortune.

shianto

OK the Title line above is a bit dramatic, but we just got a QS prelim budget in which is 60% over our budget.

We are pricing a 157sqm of extention using traditional methods (block) + a refurb of 120 on a circa 1900-1910 house.

Obviously we are now looking reduce and there are are places, but 60% is a big number so I want to ask those people in the know about pricing differences of doing one-off builds in timber or SIP (or other systems), particularly as labour now seems to be one of the main factors driving this price increase?

BryanF

Recent cork pricing doc for ~50m2 extension & 60m2 retrofit - came in around 250k inc new treatment unit & entrance mods.

shianto

BryanF wrote: »

Recent cork pricing doc for ~50m2 extension & 60m2 retrofit - came in around 250k inc new treatment unit & entrance mods.

Thanks for the quick reply BryanF whatever they pay you it is not enough

Sadly we are in Dublin and OK we put in some luxuries i.e. a large glazing system and upstairs UFH, and a 300m2 of permeable paving (which is now be replaced by gravel!) but nothing much crazy beyond that.

What was your build type (block, timber etc)?

Also and excuse my naivety, but what do you mean by new treatment unit (waste water?)

pjmaloney

Does anybody have any idea how badly site conditions will affect the cost of a one off build? I’m just starting to look into building a 105 Sqm house in my garden in south Dublin (an infill), only thing is the site will be quite tight - long and thin, will this drive the prices way up when I get to the tender stage?

Carrickbeg

Perez2017 wrote: »

I have planning for a 1400 square foot 3 bedroom bungalow. Anyone have any idea of a price if I went direct labour? Builders quoting a fortune.

Dont go direct labour