Murrisk wrote: » Meh, very little sympathy for anyone who got on their high horse at the dad in that thread. They absolutely deserve a sharp dressing down, IMO, and if they are confident in their position, they'll be able to defend themselves. The only solace really is that they stuck out as particularly odious on the thread and that's satifying. Spout your repugnant view? Well, be prepared to defend it.
buzzwell wrote: » All the ones admitting to forgetting their own children at various times found a place to share their own experiences guilt free as far as I can see.
Books4you wrote: » Look I'm all for leaving threads flow as much as possible but that thread made me close boards last night. I've no problem with people discussing the rights and wrongs of the case but calling the dad every name under the sun is just not what I want to read here.
Books4you wrote: » Look I'm all for leaving threads flow as much as possible but that thread made me close boards last night. I've no problem with people discussing the rights and wrongs of the case but calling the dad every name under the sun is just not what I want to read here. And just so I'm clear, I think the mods were doing a good job there trying to control it.
Thelomen Toblackai wrote: » No excuse to be throwing around personal abuse regardless of how much you disagree with someone. What's repugnant to you might not be repugnant to other's so if you can't argue the point without being abusive then you should get short shrift as far as I'm concerned.
buzzwell wrote: » It didn't legitimise it.
Murrisk wrote: » Yeah, abuse isn't on... and yet, I can't work anything other than a shoulder shrug for some of the sharper responses some people received on that thread last night. Abuse isn't on, in theory. Sometimes, it feels so goddamn right though. :cool: And people can have their odious views. Ain't nobody stopping them. But people will obviously respond. Very satisfying to see almost universal disgust of those posters in the thread, I have to say. Well actually, for a lot of people on-thread, it did.
Thelomen Toblackai wrote: » Abuse isn't on regardless. Anyone who thinks calling people cnts, assholes, morons etc is acceptable in any discussion are the ones with the odious views imo.
Murrisk wrote: » Anyone who calls someone any of those names directly outright will get a ban, I've seen a few instances of it in the last few days. One guy got a ban in a thread and said he was happy to take the ban because he needed to express the view. His post got a lot of thanks, more than 50, I think. I'd take the same view. I'd happily take the ban if I thought a poster deserved it. Well worth it. If it's against the rules, boards will sanction it but sometimes there won't be a lot of sympathy for the person on the receiving end of the name-calling. What are you gonna do?
Thelomen Toblackai wrote: » There was multiple posts like that in the thread yesterday. "you're a cúnt" and "You're an asshole" got warnings. The poster with 50 thanks called someone an idiot and an arrogant dickhead. He got an infraction but I seen nothing about a ban.
Thelomen Toblackai wrote: » Another poster posted multiple lines on how someone else was an empty husk of a human being with nothing positive to say about anyone and who would end up alone. That got a lot of thanks too and a warning.
Murrisk wrote: » So the posts were sanctioned, what's the issue? The infractions will be on the poster's record now so they didn't get away with it.
Well, you can't stop the thanks, unless you delete the comment. Again, the post was sanctioned. Why did it receive a lot of thanks? Think about that.
neverever1 wrote: » I'm not on this site very long but just having a quick glance in this section suggests it may be a mod problem? I'm talking about the thread title, was it much busier before? Are mods too strict? I had a problem in one section with a mod bullying me and then getting their mod pal to ban me. I've reported it but nothing has been done, no response to me, just ignored. I've had people private message me saying that they have experienced the same. Is this a regular thing on boards.ie?
Stheno wrote: » Have you provided the information dudara asked you for in feedback? The admins can hardly respond unless you give them that?
neverever1 wrote: » You going to continue your bullying on another thread? All the information was put on the thread a few days ago. Any further comments I've made have not been posted by whoever is over that section.
Stheno wrote: » No I asked a genuine question as it doesn't appear you've answered it on the thread. What you need to do if you've answered dudaras question is to report her post and ask for your reply to be made public or answered
The_Valeyard wrote: » This post had been deleted.
gufc21 wrote: » Cause yer not on the werewolves forum... crazy busy
Permabear wrote: » I'd like to make a couple of other suggestions. One is to clean out all the dead forums and subforums. E.g., I just clicked on the Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy forum because it's under Steve's name, and it's had three posts since 2014. There are a lot of other forums on Boards like this. In my view, if a forum is getting fewer than 25 posts a month it should be considered for closure. Having numerous forums with tumbleweed blowing through them only sends the signal that Boards is dying. Another is to address the issue of inactive mods. Mods should be active presences in their forums, but there are "mods" on Boards who haven't logged on in years. Again, this just sends a negative message. I'd like to see automatic demodding after 3 months of inactivity (unless there are extenuating circumstances, of course).
LuckyLloyd wrote: » Seems a pain, but a worthwhile activity - otherwise, as you say, you have the illusion of moderator cover on a forum rather than any actual modding. Again, automation removes the need for "sweeps". You'll just have a steady trickle of work as mods are removed by rule and coverage issues pop up by extension. At least it will be a trickle of valuable work. It will also help feed into the second aspect - that of inactive forums. If mods are getting removed by rule and you can't find any users to give the forum to and / or no - one is noticing the fact that a mod has been inactive or removed, it will probably help feed into a review of forums that could be closed or archived. Archive section the path to victory here - the historical content still has value, and should be searchable.
BowSideChamp wrote: » Why is this website dead? ... - the layout of the new menu is horrible. Feedback was not listened to. - on the mobile site you cannot navigate easily between forums. E.g. you are in the athletic events sub-forum but here is no link back to the main athletic forum. This annoys me so much. ...
Thelomen Toblackai wrote: » I know people probably don't want to hear this but Reddit really does a lot of things so much better when it comes to creating a platform for discussion and content sharing. Things like:Each article/video/image is its own thread: So there's so much stuff that can and does spawn isolated discussions. With everything posted as new threads it also makes the subs look and feel really active and you know there's probably something new there so you continually pop back in to check. Taking the cool pics vids and links forum there's a few popular threads where pretty much everything goes. While it has a big interest and a lot of users it doesn't particularly seem too active. The last thread on the front page was posted in on the 13th for example. And because everything is in the one thread I find myself looking at a load of stuff in "sittings" rather than continually checking in to see whats new even though it regularly has new content. Plus it's losing out on the ability to turn that content into talking points to add an extra reason to check back. The downvote: Probably done to death on here and dismissed several million times but still. Always worth revisiting things. It does tend to create circle-jerks but it also allows the userbase to moderate itself up to a certain point. While not that great that the popular opinions can drown out the minority tbh boards does it no better as you get what you got in yesterdays thread. Everyone feeling like they need to respond to a few posters and turning it into a row that descended into insults. You still get that on reddit but the ability to just click a button to express your disagreement just seems to relieve a lot of posters of that urge to "do something about this guy". It's the converse of the thanks. There that reduces all the +1's perhaps an opposite function would reduce all the upset responses. It may not be something that can be introduced as it is on reddit but maybe there's something that can be taken from that. Something that users can do to publicly express their disagreement with a post without responding just to have a go at them? Which could go some say in both clearing up the more heated discussions and reducing effort required by mods. User created subs: There's a lot of popular subs on reddit and countless failed ones. The ability for people to just create their own sub for whatever they want has resulted in some great things emerging in an almost evolutionary fashion from the lives and deaths of other subs. Something\someone is an overnight sensation, someone chances on something interesting, a sub is created for it, people's fleeting interest is tapped immediately, the sub develops, users subscribe, someone else creates something similar but more in line with what people want and it ends up a huge attraction. I know boards is quite different so you cant have that but again maybe there's things to be taken from it. There's a lot of talk by people (but quite a small few in relation to the userbase of boards) about which forums should exist and which shouldnt and who'll mod it and is there enough users who post in those other forums who might post in this one and is the enough people in the new forums forums to support it. The creation of a new forum is a long time in coming and it's all a bit too long and thought out and too deliberate to match the quick turnaround of interests online. I think that's where reddit thrives, if it's grabbed the public's attention for a split second it's on reddit with its own sub and people will flock to it. At this stage no matter what happens you know it's on reddit. It can't be impossible to allow users to create new forums in some sandboxed area. Would be very interesting to see what could develop through something like that.
Stheno wrote: » A lot if what you mention is constrained by the tech boards runs on and the fact that to keep it going, orangeness heavily customised over the years
Thelomen Toblackai wrote: » Even if it's constrained surely there's still opportunities to implement them in some fashion or form that might achieve some measure of success though right?
Steve wrote: » In recent years, boards core ethos has shifted from being steered by people concerned with a great discussion site to more corporate / marketing folks concerned with the site paying for itself through ad and talk to revenue. Personally, I don't like that and would prefer to go back to a site held together with rubber bands, duct tape and the love and goodwill of the community despite all the faults it had.
Thelomen Toblackai wrote: » There's still changes that could be made to improve participation and make the site more interesting to use though. Wasn't it always part of the plan to grow the site whether it was held together with duct tape or bled for ad revenue ?
Rodin wrote: » What ever happened to differing opinions?
Thelomen Toblackai wrote: » There was multiple posts like that in the thread yesterday. "you're a cúnt" and "You're an asshole" got warnings. The poster with 50 thanks called someone an idiot and an arrogant dickhead. He got an infraction but I seen nothing about a ban. Another poster posted multiple lines on how someone else was an empty husk of a human being with nothing positive to say about anyone and who would end up alone. That got a lot of thanks too and a warning. I'm all for easing up on the rules a bit but it's difficult when it comes to outright personal abuse with no effort to do anything else. I'm not sure why a soft line is taken on that stuff and yet the thread will get locked because people behave like that. Seems rather pointless to me.
buzzwell wrote: » Four users were banned according to jonnycivic moderator "MOD - Apologies for the closure but it was necessary for the review. Gatling, Beyondgone, Persephone Kindness & infogiver banned. All other users are not to quote their posts from this point. There have been cards and bans given out and we hope that will be the end of that, so from here on in please keep the following in mind or more cards & bans will follow. No more suggesting that it was done wilfully (immediate bans for anyone who suggests it). And no more suggesting that he was high. Please remember to be civil to each other here no matter what the opinion, and please do not aim hateful comments towards the family involved in this tragic incident." Only reason I can quote it is because the page is still open on my tablet. Link, but it won't workkhttp://touch.boards.ie/thread/2057745301/39/#post103633373
