Sosurface wrote: » Take a walk down the side of Tesco Poleberry oretty much any evening. You might have to do a lap or 2 before you get any activity. You'll see plenty of our "new Europeans" supplying heroin to local users, mainly emanating from the hostel on Bath St(not neccessarily resident there). And yes I have contacted the gardai multiple times about this, the response has always been comically poor.
jopax wrote: » I had heard stories of what was happening in that area but I didn't realise how bad it was. Absolute animals terrorising families like that, if there was no children involved it would be bad enough, but for innocent kids to have to pay the price. I'm not too surprised about the eastern Europeans as I have heard stories of bags of white powder changing hands in broad daylight in the park. I was very surprised to read about Nigerian gangs, unless this is a new thing here.
potatohouse wrote: » you would not believe the amount of money gangs make from the cannabis trade alone. in the millions/tens of millions. if you think some of that doesn't make its way to the boys in blue you're living in fantasy land. full legalization would cut them off and improve the country tenfold. hilarious to think in this day and age that some would vote no if it came to referendum!
jopax wrote: » Were the guards even held accountable for anything.
Picky owner wrote: » Only read it on the journal.ie through the link jopax posted,was it reported on any other local or national media,any comments from waterford politicans?
Finnbar01 wrote: » This was posted by John Hearne on his facebook page on 1st April 2017. So the Gardaí are also a major part of the problem. BTW, I am far from a Sinn Fein supporter.
Finnbar01 wrote: » I guess they had all their money taking off them by the gang, so they couldn't afford rent, food, clothing etc for their children. Incidentally, I've never ever heard of Nigerian or Moroccan gangs that are meant to be in on the act but I've heard plenty about Eastern Europeans doing the rounds. And I'm pretty close to the coal face (unfortunately) if you know what I mean.
I was 2 hours in the barracks one night and for 2 hours the Garda threatened a girl if she made a statement they would report her to her school and her mother would be reported to social services and fair play to the family they made the statement and we won out a high court case was dropped another night for 2 and a half hours they wouldn't take a statement off me when my life was threatened by a gang member i had to stage a sit in it then went to court and they asked me to drop the charges and another time they charged me with assault to fit me up and refused to take seven witness statements that would clear me but later on they apologised when they found out my dad was a Garda and they couldn't get away with it and i was cleared and i feel sad for the decent Garda out their. It's like the vhi if you have money your ok remember kinneally their should be a criminal investigation into this. But when people elect criminals like Haughey Burke and Lawlor what do you expect it's a rotten corrupt state when FF and Fg left children die of neglect in homes and allowed children to be trafficked to America and they continue to vote for them when their going to spend millions defending Apple to dodge taxes if you vote for them it's your fault.
jopax wrote: » How did it get so bad that their kids had to go into care, that is just shocking in this day & age that people can end up in such a situation. I hope they got their kids back & got some help to rebuild their lives.
Finnbar01 wrote: » John Halligan or John Ahearne was on WLR a while back describing exactly what was said in that article. The gang has left some families so destitute, they had to put their children into care. They are absolutely ruthless when it comes to getting their money back. If something is not done about them soon, some housing estates in Waterford will end up going they way of Limerick.
Picky owner wrote: » A lot of people don't care as long as it's confined to certain areas,imagine the uproar if dealers/scumbags were roaming around the likes of butlerstown,dunmore road etc.
Harry Palmr wrote: » Does any of this **** get covered in the local meeja? I don't buy the Munster/News and Star or listen to Deise AM.
Harry Palmr wrote: » Does any of this **** get covered in the local meeja? I don't but the Munster/News and Star or listen to Deise AM.
Sosurface wrote: » If arming them is what you mean, I would agree in theory. But there would need to be a serious clean out/cull of AGS before trusting them with weapons or extra powers. Some of them are bad enough and the corruption so ingrained that the mind boggles at the thought of what they coukd get up to is they got special arrest/search powers and weaponry.
jopax wrote: » Are the guards actually equipped or given enough training to deal with these type of gangs though. Who knows what they are capable of, we know what the local scum are capable of & it was difficult enough to try to catch them. What about these other more experienced gangs, how the hell would they manage them. In fairness to the guards, the hard working ones I mean, it's not a safe environment in Ireland anymore & maybe they should be better equipped.
jopax wrote: Are the guards actually equipped or given enough training to deal with these type of gangs though. Who knows what they are capable of, we know what the local scum are capable of & it was difficult enough to try to catch them. What about these other more experienced gangs, how the hell would they manage them. In fairness to the guards, the hard working ones I mean, it's not a safe environment in Ireland anymore & maybe they should be better equipped.
Wanderer78 wrote: » You will actually find many of these 'weak willed skangers' suffering from very complex issues, the most common being, mental health issues, complex behavioural problems and personality disorders, things such as autism would be common, complex learning disabilities such as dyslexia etc would also be common. You will find many of our institutions such as our educational system, health system, legal systems etc exasperate these issues. Many of these peoples issues would also be undiagnosed, it would also be common for these 'weak willed' people to come from very complex family environments, in which adding further complications to their issues.
Somedude9 wrote: » How about criminalise everything & put them in jail instead.
Harry Palmr wrote: It's inhabited by weak willed skangers who can't be arsed to run theirs lives in a responsible and constructive manner.
Somedude9 wrote: How about criminalise everything & put them in jail instead.
Picky owner wrote: » These Nigerians must be pretty bad if the local lot are running for cover.
