Alizrian Crimson wrote: » I watched 'The Savage Peace' the other night. The documentary is still available on the RTE player (I think) and I urge you to watch it. The line between the good and bad guys is very thin.
fergiesfolly wrote: » Was there much mention of the treatment by ethnic Germans in eastern Europe towards the indigenous people, once the Nazi's took power
b_mac2 wrote: » Plenty of dirty communist/Soviet supporters on here, hopefully they'll be along soon to explain these actions better for us stupid fascists.
Alizrian Crimson wrote: » Largest ethnic cleansing in human history and most outside Germany probably have no idea it happened.
The Pheasant2 wrote: » Larger than the holocaust?
Lyle Lanley wrote: » There were no good guys, despite what the Brits and yanks like to portray.
Jimoslimos wrote: » People in Europe saw the good, bad and ugly side of soldiers and occupying forces (Allied, Soviets, and Nazis). People in Britain and the US only heard the good - and have been celebrating that fact ever since.
odyssey06 wrote: » It's what happens when you start a savage war and then don't surrender when you've clearly lost the war and are incapable of defending your citizens anymore... The Germans lost World War One, they didn't accept it, they started World War Two... they can't say they didn't lose that one when their cities were flattened and homelands invaded... no coincidence after that there's been no attempt on their part to start a World War Three. As for the occupying forces of the Allies, ask yourself would you have preferred to be under Soviet occupation rather than Anglo-American-Commonwealth? Anyone who picks the Soviets is either a fool or a "useful idiot". The Anglo-American alliance were the "good guys" in World War Two, as much as any side could ever be the "good guys" in a total war - they were all that stood between civilization versus tyranny and darkness.
Jimoslimos wrote: » People in Britain and the US only heard the good - and have been celebrating that fact ever since.
Alizrian Crimson wrote: » Plenty of them over on Politics.ie saying the Germans deserved it. Those people will certainly enjoy this documentary. Largest ethnic cleansing in human history and most outside Germany probably have no idea it happened.
neverever1 wrote: » The bombing of Dresden was a horrible, disgusting act.
odyssey06 wrote: » Would I have signed off on that attack... maybe, maybe not... do I understand why the men who flew that mission wanted to flatten a German city after watching the Germans try to do the same to London, Coventry, Liverpool etc? Yes, I do.
Zebra3 wrote: » The Anglo-American alliance was one through out history that destroyed civilisations. Genocide against the natives of North America, Australia, and India for starters. Saw an interview with an African-American who fought in WWII. "I went to Europe to fight facism, defeated it, and then came home to fight it again". The Brits were running concentration camps in Kenya and starving millions to death in India in the 1940s. The idea that either of those countries were some sort of civilised states is nothing but repugnant propaganda.
neverever1 wrote: » So you're ok with the murder of thousands of civilians?
odyssey06 wrote: » What happened those African-Americans? The Americans put them into uniforms. Within a generation the civil rights act was passed, within another generation we have African-American politicians and in the next generation an African-American president. Don't even begin to compare 'concentration camps' used by Britain in their strict sense - to concentrate people in camps, versus the deliberate extermination camps run by the Nazis. The Nazis didn't put their minorities into uniform, or treat them as second class citizens. They didn't treat them as citizens or even as humans. If the Nazis had gotten their hands on the African-Americans there would be no Martin Luther King, no Jesse Jackson, no Barack Obama. You deserve to live in a universe ala Man in the High Castle where the Nazis won.
odyssey06 wrote: » What happened those African-Americans? The Americans put them into uniforms. Within a generation the civil rights act was passed, within another generation we have African-American politicians and in the next generation an African-American president. Don't even begin to compare 'concentration camps' used by Britain in their strict sense - to concentrate people in camps, versus the deliberate extermination camps run by the Nazis. The Nazis didn't put their minorities into uniform, or treat them as second class citizens. They didn't treat them as citizens or even as humans. If the Nazis had gotten their hands on the African-Americans there would be no Martin Luther King, no Jesse Jackson, no Barack Obama. You deserve to live in a universe ala Man in the High Castle where the Nazis won. I think that would quickly lead to an appreciation of the civilized qualities of the Anglo-American alliance. Humanity is fortunate that at a crucial point in our history, we had people of the calibre of Churchill, Roosevelt, Marshall, Eisenhower to hold the line for the nations representing freedom and democracy against tyranny.
odyssey06 wrote: » Whatever it was, it was not murder.
neverever1 wrote: » There was no justification, it was cold blooded murder. 25,000 dead!
Zebra3 wrote: » So they were civilised nations? I see you decided not to comment on the British genocide in India. Bit of an inconvenience those millions of skeletons, eh? :rolleyes:
