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Dairy chit chat II

Mooooo

One morning I need to get the cows done early dumbass here let's the wire down directing to parlour and cows head for a gallop to the last fecking field on the pasaage

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Keepgrowing wrote: »

Can someone post a link to the two articles?

http://www.farmersjournal.ie/farmer-writes-paddy-average-takes-a-look-at-the-greenfield-numbers-275706

http://www.farmersjournal.ie/march-milk-gives-a-bonus-of-85-cow-to-greenfield-272541

Not sure if they can be read without signing up to the website

Milkthief

GrasstoMilk wrote: »

Personally I don't agree. They do lots of articles on a lot of different systems. Take what ever you want out of each.
He has said recently he's asked about seeing Mr tinturs operation and figures but got no reply ðŸ€” They like to stick to the basics which everyone should try there best to be good at

Maybe mr Tintur has his reasons for not wanting to be ripped to shreds by certain above mentioned journalists across a tabloid. And when he is good and ready he will let above said people do an article

GrasstoMilk

mahoney_j wrote: »

If he said that he's lying ,if u read there articles they are so biased and one sided towards x breds ,no meal no z grazing etc maby they just don't process the skill set to try something different or give advice on something other than that .the odd token article is thrown in re higher production systems but they seem disinterested

Drop Aidan an Email mj and show him everything you are talking about. I'm sure he would only be delighted to come out

mahoney_j

GrasstoMilk wrote: »

Drop Aidan an Email mj and show him everything you are talking about. I'm sure he would only be delighted to come out

No need to as I already know answer .......

Dwag

A little...can't seem to find the right word!

Even Fonterra are moving away from the downward spiral of chaaapest...and the folly of xbred v hol--> race (linguistic pun) to the bottom rages.

Bread and circuses for the mob.

Buford T. Justice XIX

I was hoping to be going draining a few acres next week and preparing at my ease before silage but the contractor pulled out today to go at silage for the next month or more so it will probably be July before it gets started.

Bucket anyway:(

Dwag

Do ye ever wonder why ye're subjected to a constant flow of mindnumbing shyte from the mainstream farming media that persuades you that nowhere else in the world can compete with the absolute dirt cheap Irish milk?

Answers on a postcard. Or a postage stamp...

Edit. Should read 'dirt chaaape' Irish milk. Sorry.

mahoney_j

Dwag wrote: »

Do ye ever wonder why ye're subjected to a constant flow of mindnumbing shyte from the mainstream farming media that persuades you that nowhere else in the world can compete with the absolute dirt cheap Irish milk?

Answers on a postcard. Or a postage stamp...

Edit. Should read 'dirt chaaape' Irish milk. Sorry.

No such thing as dirt cheap Irish milk dawg ,don't be believing the crap coming from tegasc pm sure according to it we work for free on free land ,live on fresh air and are all debt free ðŸ˜‚

Dwag

mahoney_j wrote: »

No such thing as dirt cheap Irish milk dawg ,don't be believing the crap coming from tegasc pm sure according to it we work for free on free land ,live on fresh air and are all debt free ðŸ˜‚

C'est la vérité.

In fairness Mahoney, I'm watching Mr. Tubridy and Mr. Duffy (who are both private companies that avail of mahoosive tax breaks) that bore the shyte outa me. Lovely.

Even Declan Ganley (the great) is not paying their tv license...jayzeez whys that?

Nothing p!sses me off more than dullness.

Edit. Dull. Mainstream. Mindnumbing...,
Shyte.
So....what's the dairy product that turns the head of the consumer? Where's the magic?
It's not milk powder, surely?

alps

I fear that magic is gone Dwag.....ffs, we can't even write a song for the Eurovision....

alps

743million people live in Europe.....and we pack powder for the most impoverished places on earth....

kowtow

alps wrote:

743million people live in Europe.....and we pack powder for the most impoverished places on earth....

Ah well yes but we are sustainable, and natural.

And you can't say that for Chinese breast milk.

Dwag

alps wrote: »

743million people live in Europe.....and we pack powder for the most impoverished places on earth....

Are there that many people in the Ez?

I read that De and NL are starting to store more product in intervention...not good.

Off to Paree again today. If all goes according to plan I'll be moving east and selling here.
Anyone interested in a couple of dairy farms...chape?

alps

Dwag wrote: »

Are there that many people in the Ez?

I read that De and NL are starting to store more product in intervention...not good.

Off to Paree again today. If all goes according to plan I'll be moving east and selling here.
Anyone interested in a couple of dairy farms...chape?

Me thinks you mean east ,with a slightly different alphabet....good luck in that endeavour.....

alps

Dwag wrote: »

Are there that many people in the Ez?
?

No...in Europe.......like Jacks calculator, you gotta be careful about the figures you enter.....

But it is an enormous market to have on your diorstep

K.G.

Theres an age old principle that it dosent pay to transport water over water thats holds for more than the dairy industry.therefore we are somewhat retricted in the type of products we can get involved in and leads us down the road of powders high dm products.our own market is tiny for consumer type products which makes it difficult to establish brands that can be built on internationaly.

Water John

Well, I see French and Italian water in the shops. So it sells here.
In fairness, Ornua seemed to be building niche markets and products now, about 40 years later to the Kerrygold success.

alps

K.G. wrote: »

Theres an age old principle that it dosent pay to transport water over water thats holds for more than the dairy industry.therefore we are somewhat retricted in the type of products we can get involved in and leads us down the road of powders high dm products.our own market is tiny for consumer type products which makes it difficult to establish brands that can be built on internationaly.

And we are restricted in our minds to old principles. The water content is only high in fresh milk products, and even with this product, I would suggest that we could even deliver this to near Europe for a cost of 10/12c/l above irish shop prices.

Our difficulty is not distance, that's short, it is access, distribution, and building brands from scratch...

If we had that confidence, that ambition, think of the possibilities....

But margain is what those upstream of us survive on, and when they can protect that regardless of raw material price, they will choose the simple, uncomplicated market..

kowtow

alps wrote: »

Our difficulty is not distance, that's short, it is access, distribution, and building brands from scratch...

If we had that confidence, that ambition, think of the possibilities....

And the biggest part of that confidence would be to stop trying to plan everything from the top downwards, and to encourage - or at least not discourage - a thriving, small, independent and truly co-operative processing environment on a similar scale to the family farms it serves (note.. serves).

We need to be brave and - for once - to choose quality over quantity and remember that jam today is rarely better and never longer lasting than jam tomorrow.

And - rather than lauding incessant "innovation" - the "hundreds and thousands" of repackaging and re branding - to remember that the really high margin, quality products, which are known worldwide are the simple ones rooted in the land they come from - not the power-point of some half arsed marketing intern.

The Ireland which is loved around the world is not the Ireland of agri-business boardrooms, but of small farms, the landscape they occupy and the families which work them. People from all nations already buy into that concept, not least because it represents a human scale which is fast disappearing. We need products of quality and integrity which reflect that rich tapestry - and we should accept that it may take a generation or two for them to bubble up and to find the real and lasting success which we aspire to. We don't need analysts, consultants, and researchers to design them - because everything we need is already sitting right there in our bulk tanks.

It would be a pity if we allowed the outdated soviet style supply planning of Harvest 2020 and 2025 and the misplaced addiction to instant rewards and cut price production to destroy our real selling points before we have a chance to let the world discover them.

alps

A tear in my eye as I read kowtow's assessment, just as a brother and sister from Portugal get a resounding qualification from all corners of Europe, for a song of simplicity, honesty, and so completly unprocessed....

alps

Mooooo

Had two calves here sick, with the last three days, multiple feeds and they seem to be coming around very lethargic but one was sucking again last night, so figured they are on the right track, came out this morning and wasn't a fcuking crow after picking the eye out of one of them bastards of yokes

whelan2

Mooooo wrote: »

Had two calves here sick, with the last three days, multiple feeds and they seem to be coming around very lethargic but one was sucking again last night, so figured they are on the right track, came out this morning and wasn't a fcuking crow after picking the eye out of one of them bastards of yokes

That would really annoy me

Mooooo

whelan2 wrote: »

That would really annoy me

Feckin sickened, they are all over the place this spring, will have to do something with netting for next year to stop them getting to the sheds but impossible to close it off fully, in the meantime I'll try and exact my revenge and put one hanging see if it'll keep the rest away. Don't want to have a gun about the place but may be left with little option to control them

blackdog1

Mooooo wrote:

Feckin sickened, they are all over the place this spring, will have to do something with netting for next year to stop them getting to the sheds but impossible to close it off fully, in the meantime I'll try and exact my revenge and put one hanging see if it'll keep the rest away. Don't want to have a gun about the place but may be left with little option to control them

If it was a grey crow or magpie you can trap them without any gun. .better job too.

Water John

Bet you slept well after that blowout, Kowtow, and well put.

yosemitesam1

Dwag wrote: »

Are there that many people in the Ez?

I read that De and NL are starting to store more product in intervention...not good.

Off to Paree again today. If all goes according to plan I'll be moving east and selling here.
Anyone interested in a couple of dairy farms...chape?

How far east would you go? Would ya cross the Volga?

einn32

mahoney_j wrote: »

Hopefully he'll still be there in 2 weeks ,I used to love reading that guy from Meath a few years back that used to write a dairy column in the farming indo on Tuesdays ,he wrote something similar and was cut

Oliver McDonnell was the guy? I used enjoy reading him.

Timmaay

Any merchants with urea still in stock in the South East ha? Longer term forecast to stay mixed weather, hopefully hit a few weeks of growth in around the 100.

Fixture

einn32 wrote: »

Oliver McDonnell was the guy? I used enjoy reading him.

I think the facts in that case were a little different.