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Mayo GAA Discussion Part 2

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martyos121

naughto wrote: »

Harrison out for the Sligo game pulled his hamstring

Torn from what I've heard. He'd do well to be fit for the Galway match if we reach it, tears usually take a good number of weeks to heal but it depends on the severity of it.

naughto

Harrison out for the Sligo game pulled his hamstring

Stoner

That's it really he just tanks, he's a great player IMO. You might not like the comparason but in many ways he's your Ciaran Whelan until Mayo win sam. People slag him, don't rate him, say he's inconsistent had too many bad days etc.

Yet Fenton and Moran for Dublin and Kerry are similar in many ways with good and bad days etc, Moran more so as he has similar fatigue and mobility issues. Yet everyone rates the others to ahead of AOS where as in reality he's every bit as good, or they are every bit as inconsistent as him.

seligehgit

glack wrote: »

I never fully understand all the criticism of Aidan. Sure, he frustrates me at times running into tackles etc but he brings something to the team that none of the other players bring. His physicality and raw power terrify opposition teams. So much so he gets a lot of "special treatment". We really missed him while he was injured (as well as Seamus) as they bring some serious power and he diverts attention away from other forwards. If he was just a bit quicker to pop the ball off to a teammate....

Without him we're a much weaker team. That's the only thing that matters.

Yes, he's fond of media attention but does anyone honestly think it affects his performance?[/QUOTE]

I do not believe the media work affects his performance levels in the slightest but he has yet to perform the ultimate of performances on the day that matters.. Ask Ireland final day.

Concur with all your other sentiments expressed.We are much weaker without him,he is targeted for a lot of special treatment.

His lack of mobility and ability to last seventy minutes limit his effectiveness.He can be such a frustrating player to watch.

seligehgit

Barlett wrote: »

Sure the only games he plays well in are the ones that Mayo win - bit like Colm Cooper according to Joe Brolly :rolleyes::rolleyes:

Aidan O Shea is a really easy target for the naysayers stemming from a dislike by some of the O Shea clan which preceded the whole management fiasco.Unfortunately at times he's his own worst enemy with his occasional love of the media/limelight.

However do we really want our top players to be as dull as ditch water?He is a good looking lad who is at the peak of his career,he's not a dirty player.He is very good with the young children who are part of the Mayo fanbase,the GAA need role models for our next generation of players,I believe he fits into that category.The media are inevitably going to be drawn to him but he's not proven himself to be savvy in his media dealings.He needs to box cleverer.

I don't believe he himself or anybody else considers that he is anywhere near touching distance of the pantheon of greats but this notion that he's never played a quality game in his career is laughable.

Evidently he'll have to have the Celtic cross medal in his back pocket before he can move up to the next level.I do wish we were in possession of a forward of the quality of Conor McManus who I rate the best in the business probably alongside Paul Geaney but yet one would hardly know he exists.

The whole argument is symbolic of the minority who are always waiting in the long grass for Mayo chokers to lose,pretty pathetic.They'd prefer if we were nice old Mayo,competing admirably but the ultimate good losers.

The only way Mayo and Aidan will silence such begrudgery and unnecessary animosity is by bringing home Sam.

BTW I do enjoy Aido' s diaries on the Reservoir Dubs website,good harmless fun.I think he might knock a laugh out of the diaries himself.

glack

I never fully understand all the criticism of Aidan. Sure, he frustrates me at times running into tackles etc but he brings something to the team that none of the other players bring. His physicality and raw power terrify opposition teams. So much so he gets a lot of "special treatment". We really missed him while he was injured (as well as Seamus) as they bring some serious power and he diverts attention away from other forwards. If he was just a bit quicker to pop the ball off to a teammate....

Without him we're a much weaker team. That's the only thing that matters.

Yes, he's fond of media attention but does anyone honestly think it affects his performance?

Barlett

kilns wrote: »

The difference between guys who get media exposure is that they have all performed when it mattered the most can any Mayo fan say that O'Shea has done that when they needed him the most

Sure the only games he plays well in are the ones that Mayo win - bit like Colm Cooper according to Joe Brolly :rolleyes::rolleyes:

MayoAreMagic

Bambi wrote: »

Did Aidan not have a new haircut to promote?

kilns

jr86 wrote: »

kilns wrote: »

He cant actually resist the limelight despite never doing anything of note to be actually in it

Really? Says some joe soap posting on an internet forum

Aidan O'Shea is one of the top intercounty footballer for one of the top teams in the country. He's done far more to help Mayo win an All Ireland (and fans achieve their dream) than anyone on this forum put together

He's dead right to go out and get a few handy quid for himself

The difference between guys who get media exposure is that they have all performed when it mattered the most can any Mayo fan say that O'Shea has done that when they needed him the most

Steve

casscass4444 wrote: »

Top teams win prizes and top players stand out for good reason.manys the big match day o shea was anonymous. The consistency you would expect from a top intercounty footballer as you refer to him was never there.hit and miss bud and o shea is only out to feather his own nest the most of the time.A back seat manager,garden patch superstar and a missing person come match day.tired from carrying around a big head he's too tired to kick a ball

This is why I prefer rugby, the players actually listen to the ref and respect him.

A week off the last time tor trolling didn't work so maybe a month will.

Next one will be permanent.

TCDStudent1

casscass4444 wrote: »

Top teams win prizes and top players stand out for good reason.manys the big match day o shea was anonymous. The consistency you would expect from a top intercounty footballer as you refer to him was never there.hit and miss bud and o shea is only out to feather his own nest the most of the time.A back seat manager,garden patch superstar and a missing person come match day.tired from carrying around a big head he's too tired to kick a ball

I wouldnt be the biggest fan of AOS. But that is an incredibly harsh and unfair view of him. He has had more good games than bad games for Mayo & he has performed in big games. He was excellent v Tyrone last year for example.

casscass4444

jr86 wrote: »

Really? Says some joe soap posting on an internet forum

Aidan O'Shea is one of the top intercounty footballer for one of the top teams in the country. He's done far more to help Mayo win an All Ireland (and fans achieve their dream) than anyone on this forum put together

He's dead right to go out and get a few handy quid for himself

Top teams win prizes and top players stand out for good reason.manys the big match day o shea was anonymous. The consistency you would expect from a top intercounty footballer as you refer to him was never there.hit and miss bud and o shea is only out to feather his own nest the most of the time.A back seat manager,garden patch superstar and a missing person come match day.tired from carrying around a big head he's too tired to kick a ball

seligehgit

charlie14 wrote: »

I have nothing against any inter county lad making a few bob on the side, but if I was his manager or one of his team mates I wouldn`t be thanking him for re-opening that can of worms while doing it with the championship just around the corner.

Totally agree.

seligehgit

naughto wrote: »

New York to beat Sligo this evening what do we reckon

The Yeats county came out on top.

New York 1-13 Sligo 1-21

Sunday 21st May 2017

Connacht Senior Football Championship quarter final

Mayo v Sligo 2.00 MacHale Park

charlie14

jr86 wrote: »

Really? Says some joe soap posting on an internet forum

Aidan O'Shea is one of the top intercounty footballer for one of the top teams in the country. He's done far more to help Mayo win an All Ireland (and fans achieve their dream) than anyone on this forum put together

He's dead right to go out and get a few handy quid for himself

I have nothing against any inter county lad making a few bob on the side, but if I was his manager or one of his team mates I wouldn`t be thanking him for re-opening that can of worms while doing it with the championship just around the corner.

naughto

New York to beat Sligo this evening what do we reckon

jr86

kilns wrote: »

He cant actually resist the limelight despite never doing anything of note to be actually in it

Really? Says some joe soap posting on an internet forum

Aidan O'Shea is one of the top intercounty footballer for one of the top teams in the country. He's done far more to help Mayo win an All Ireland (and fans achieve their dream) than anyone on this forum put together

He's dead right to go out and get a few handy quid for himself

naughto

Audioslaven wrote: »

I think the media like interviewing him and he likes this so if he says anything it gets into the paper. Granted he was at an event but I do agree he needs to be a bit smarted than this and just focus on his football. It is crazy he even engaged into the conversation on this can of worms when he had nothing to gain

With the answer he gave you would swear he had a book coming out

Audioslaven

kilns wrote: »

He cant actually resist the limelight despite never doing anything of note to be actually in it

I think the media like interviewing him and he likes this so if he says anything it gets into the paper. Granted he was at an event but I do agree he needs to be a bit smarted than this and just focus on his football. It is crazy he even engaged into the conversation on this can of worms when he had nothing to gain

kilns

He cant actually resist the limelight despite never doing anything of note to be actually in it

Dyr

kilns wrote: »

Both Brehany and O'Shea are as bad as each other.? Why did O'Shea feel the need to comment on it, he could have said no comment its over and done with but he cant resist the limelight.

Did Aidan not have a new haircut to promote?

kilns

Both Brehany and O'Shea are as bad as each other. Why did O'Shea feel the need to comment on it, he could have said no comment its over and done with but he cant resist the limelight.

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Call me Al wrote: »

Breheny comes across as a man who is completely obsessed with Mayo football and who has a real axe to grind with the team. He really needs to get a grip.
I saw that article and just rolled my eyes and said to myself, ah here not this sh!te again. Talk about flogging a dead horse.
It's personal against the team at this stage which isn't nice to read even for a neutral. Paper never refused ink though and I suppose some changing rooms will just lap it up.

It was news back in October 2015.

It was news again on the morning of June 19th 2016.

It was news again at half time in the Fermanagh qualifier.

It stopped being news soon after that.

PressRun

The man is obsessed. It's more than a little strange.

Call me Al

Breheny comes across as a man who is completely obsessed with Mayo football and who has a real axe to grind with the team. He really needs to get a grip.
I saw that article and just rolled my eyes and said to myself, ah here not this sh!te again. Talk about flogging a dead horse.
It's personal against the team at this stage which isn't nice to read even for a neutral. Paper never refused ink though and I suppose some changing rooms will just lap it up.

MayoAreMagic

Jayop wrote: »

That article was the biggest butt hurt load of tripe I've seen written in t a long time. It's amazing how many of these journalists and pundits that are literally paid to stick the boot in time and time again have such incredibly thin skin if anyone dares to call them up on it. The saddest thing about it is that the rest of their buddies will circle the wagon around them too.

Agreed. The way some journalists operate these days is something that doesn't sit well with me. An awful lot have become bullies with a microphone, who complain about the standards of others, while regularly sinking below the belt themselves. They put words in people's mouths, ask loaded questions and take the response out of context on purpose. That isnt good journalism, that is a race to the bottom and a nasty way to operate, as far as Im concerned.

Charlie14, I get what you are saying re O'Shea, he needs to wake up to the real world a bit, in my opinion. But on this occasion, he literally said one sentence, i.e. that all the details were not accurate and that the paper will write it in a certain way. Considering we got one side of the story, delivered in a very obviously deliberate manner, Id argue O'Shea has said nothing that anyone with half a brain didn't know already, and breheny knocking another lengthy article out of it only confirms this more.

naughto

I see Tom turbo is starting for New York

blinding

There will probably be a time again when no one is interested in what Mayo Players , Former payers , Managers , Former mangers have to say......

This may be the God Times when People are somewhat interested in Mayo Football.......

Take it all with a pinch of salt...Its not very serious in the great scheme of things...

statto25

charlie14 wrote: »

What did AOS think he was doing going there in the first place.
He has been around long enough now to know journalists were going to ask about it the first opportunity they got.
The official line from the Mayo county board and management at the time was no comment, so why he now has to go and open up the can of worms again is just stupid.

I was afraid to bring up that point but I agree totally. He could have shot the line of questioning down but instead he has brought it back into the limelight with his vague 'I know something you don't know answer'. The team should be concentrating for 3 weeks time not that sh1t from the past.

charlie14

What did AOS think he was doing going there in the first place.
He has been around long enough now to know journalists were going to ask about it the first opportunity they got.
The official line from the Mayo county board and management at the time was no comment, so why he now has to go and open up the can of worms again is just stupid.