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BANGERNOMICS (sub2k) of the week/day

BorneTobyWilde

Modnote - Thread moved to new thread because the other one was near 10k posts.

Bangernomics part 5 here
http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2057493741

Bangernomics rules:
Under €2000
Valid NCT
Something you'd actually drive yourself
VRT paid
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https://www.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/2005-bmw-520i-nct-05-18/15133222

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nct 5/18
2005

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emeldc

Glen_Quagmire wrote: »

What is the reliability like on these? I know older Fiat Puntos were terrible but haven't looked into them much over the years

Some info here.

https://www.whatcar.com/fiat/grande-punto/hatchback/used-review/

Glen_Quagmire

Murt102 wrote:

2008 Fiat Punto 1.3 diesel NCT 01/18 â‚¬200 Road tax â‚¬1,650

What is the reliability like on these? I know older Fiat Puntos were terrible but haven't looked into them much over the years

Murt102

2008 Fiat Punto
1.3 diesel
NCT 01/18
€200 Road tax
€1,650

https://www.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/2008-fiat-grande-punto-1-3l-diesel-nct-01-18/15404721

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grogi

Automaticomics

2006 S40, relativaly low mileage (150kkm). €1450.

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https://www.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/2006-volvo-s40-automatic/15272282

jharr100

https://www.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/merecedes-e200-avantgarde-auto-leather-taxed-nct-/15266401

Mercedes- benz
petrol 1.8
2003
1800 euro

selectamatic

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https://www.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/1996-subaru-vivio/15374822

Basic 4 wheel urban motoring at its cheapest.
1996 subaru vivio
Test and tax till 2018
supposedly low miles and low number of owners.
Asking €600 but it looks very clean

Bigus

Petrol goodness,

https://www.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/audi-a4-1-8t-estatenct-10-17-amp-tax-05-17top-spec/15310275

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Soarer

I don't think he means being persistent by annoying the same person over and over. He obviously means contacting dozens of sellers and offering each of them small money.

Like he said, you only have to find a desperate seller once.

Sort the cars by oldest ad, and start ringing from there. You'd be surprised what people would take when their car is advertised for months on end.

biko

Back to sub2k car adverts pls

pcardin

Gravelly wrote: »

I find a very strict "time wasters won't be tolerated" at the bottom of the ad cuts down (though doesn't eliminate) them.

No it doesn't, as you can see from poster above, apparently some think being persistent is the right game. :pac:

Bigus

Lads there's 96,922 cars for sale on donedeal alone at the moment , never mind adverts, carzone , carsireland etc. Plus commercial vehicles.

There's 26,000 cars for sale under euro 2,500 .

Loads of bargaining to be done in this irish BUYERS market.

Normal level of used cars for sale should probably be half the above stock levels.

So a lot of people are delighted to get any cash offer, and a few are insulted, that's simple economics.

Gravelly

TeaBagMania wrote: »

This hacks me off to no end, was attempting to sell my BMW GS Adventure, probably showed it to 15-20 people all of them cheap f***s. bike is in perfect showroom condition and they want it for free, STFU & GTFO. stop wasting my time
in the end I said f*** it... ill just keep it and let it sit in the garage collecting dust before I give it away
ok rant off, tanks

I find a very strict "time wasters won't be tolerated" at the bottom of the ad cuts down (though doesn't eliminate) them.

TeaBagMania

colm_mcm wrote: »

I would be pretty cheesed off if I had taken time out to show a car where the buyer had no intention of paying even half the asking.

This hacks me off to no end, was attempting to sell my BMW GS Adventure, probably showed it to 15-20 people all of them cheap f***s. bike is in perfect showroom condition and they want it for free, STFU & GTFO. stop wasting my time
in the end I said f*** it... ill just keep it and let it sit in the garage collecting dust before I give it away
ok rant off, tanks

Bigus

Gravelly wrote: »

I get at least one of those calls every time I sell anything on DD or Adverts, whether it's a car or something else. I've yet to sell anything to any of them.

It's a numbers game , plenty of people will sell cheap to a respectable buyer, to shift quickly.

Equally there's many petrol heads that will hold out for months for the asking price, not every seller is the same , far from it, a lot can be picked up from the layout and wording of the advert online.

Gravelly

Bigus wrote: »

Yes , but I,would qualify the low offer over the phone first by saying ," I have a definite interest in the car , but I'm at about half your asking price ,"

if you still want to show it to me and are prepared to entertain that level of offer then
" I'm on my way with cash NOW"

If that level of offer is no use, no harm done , no point in wasting both our valuable time, but keep my number in case you still have it next week.

I get at least one of those calls every time I sell anything on DD or Adverts, whether it's a car or something else. I've yet to sell anything to any of them.

Bigus

bear1 wrote: »

You honestly believe someone will give you a 700e discount on a 1200e car because of persistence?

hahahahah

Yes , but I,would qualify the low offer over the phone first by saying ," I have a definite interest in the car , but I'm at about half your asking price ,"

if you still want to show it to me and are prepared to entertain that level of offer then
" I'm on my way with cash NOW"

If that level of offer is no use, no harm done , no point in wasting both our valuable time, but keep my number in case you still have it next week.

Bigus

jelutong wrote: »

Bigus, have you had much success using that clever bargaining system ?

Yes

colm_mcm

To be fair, unless the seller just bought the car, they're making a loss at €500 or €1200. Some will build in a margin (say if they want 800 they'll ask 1200) and some will not price a €500 car at €500 because it attracts people who want a car for free. Some just want to get it sold.
It's not like offering €5000 for a €12000 car.

I would be pretty cheesed off if I had taken time out to show a car where the buyer had no intention of paying even half the asking. If they have an intention of buying then that's where selling comes in.

bear1

Bigus wrote: »

If you have time go look at a few cars asking around ?1200 and wave 500 under their nose , you'll get lucky with persistence, and you only need to get lucky once .

You honestly believe someone will give you a 700e discount on a 1200e car because of persistence?

hahahahah

BorneTobyWilde

jelutong wrote: »

Bigus, have you had much success using that clever bargaining system ?

With women he has .

jelutong

Bigus, have you had much success using that clever bargaining system ?

Duke O Smiley

Bigus wrote: »

If you have time go look at a few cars asking around ?1200 and wave 500 under their nose , you'll get lucky with persistence, and you only need to get lucky once .

If someone offered me 500 for a 1200 car I'd openly insult them back

pcardin

Bigus wrote: »

If you have time go look at a few cars asking around ?1200 and wave 500 under their nose...

and risk ending up with a punch in the face?

Someone tried to pull this trick with me over the weekend, was it you? :pac:

Cianos

quadrifoglio verde wrote: »

Buy nd's Bora so.
Tested for the year, asking 600.
Looks in decent condition

I saw that thanks but it's the other side of the country for me

quadrifoglio verde

Cianos wrote: »

I don't have time unfortunately!

Buy nd's Bora so.
Tested for the year, asking 600.
Looks in decent condition

Cianos

Bigus wrote: »

If you have time go look at a few cars asking around ?1200 and wave 500 under their nose , you'll get lucky with persistence, and you only need to get lucky once .

I don't have time unfortunately!

Bigus

If you have time go look at a few cars asking around ?1200 and wave 500 under their nose , you'll get lucky with persistence, and you only need to get lucky once .

Cianos

I don't like the car, it's a grand car but looks very shoddy, has a lot of damage to the paintwork etc. I got it at the time as I needed something quick and Corollas have a good reputation for reliability.

grogi wrote: »

What do you mean by 'guzzling petrol' ? It is 15 years old car - 10l/100km is something to be expected...

Since the exhaust issue has reared its head it's doing noticeably worse on petrol. I haven't measured it but it's draining faster than normal anyway.

It also seems to need a lot of oil.

If I could get something nicer with a good NCT for around 500 and if the repair work on what I have was going to be not much cheaper than that I'd defintely consider switching.

grogi

Cianos wrote: »

Hi all, I used this thread to pick up a 01 Corolla for €700 with your help last year (thanks again!).

Unfortunately the exhaust is leaking and it's guzzling petrol. My mate had a look and there's been some kind of fixer upper job done on it with a bit of wood being shoved in and sealed. We tried sealing it further but it hasn't lasted.

The NCT is due now too, so I have the choice now of fixing what I have, which I haven't gotten a price for yet, or after having a quick scan of the last few posts here just picking up a different car since the market seems to be even better for buyers than it was last year.

Thoughts?

It is always a balancing act. If that is the only thing that's wrong with it and you like it, I would fix it properly: have patches welded or even parts of exhaust completely replaced.

With all due-diligence, with this budget you never know if the one you get as a replacement will not be worse that what you have... But if the car is giving you other trouble - ditch it...

What do you mean by 'guzzling petrol' ? It is 15 years old car - 10l/100km is something to be expected...

Cianos

Hi all, I used this thread to pick up a 01 Corolla for €700 with your help last year (thanks again!).

Unfortunately the exhaust is leaking and it's guzzling petrol. My mate had a look and there's been some kind of fixer upper job done on it with a bit of wood being shoved in and sealed. We tried sealing it further but it hasn't lasted.

The NCT is due now too, so I have the choice now of fixing what I have, which I haven't gotten a price for yet, or after having a quick scan of the last few posts here just picking up a different car since the market seems to be even better for buyers than it was last year.

Thoughts?