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Guardians Of The Galaxy Vol 2

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Script is done
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As is the table read
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Filming starts in February.

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pjohnson

Penn wrote: »

Dude, it's a film featuring a talking raccoon, a tiny tree monster and a planet who can turn into a person.

Yeah, the film should have some substance and character development behind it, and I believe this film does. But you're clearly expecting something from this film that it was never going to even try to hit let alone whether or not it achieved it.

Films can, and in many cases should, just be fun and entertaining.

Dont forget its a sequel. Tree Monster may now be Seedling Monster but neither the tree or the talking trash panda are going to have radically transformed their personalities or what exactly they do.

Outlaw Pete

One of the worst films I've ever had the displeasure of attending. At many points throughout the screening I actually considered leaving the auditorium. The film is totally devoid of nuance for one and the characteristic compositions..... ah I'm only messing, was good craic. Seen it in the IMAX and glad I did as I think it added to the overall atmosphere. Decent soundtrack too. Love the cheesiness but maybe it was a little shoehorned at times but sure why not.

Favourite lines was:

"You shouldn't have killed my mom... and squished my Walkman!".

Jelle1880

Thought it was great, I was afraid that in the beginning (especially given the opening scene) they would use mini Groot as a gimmick through the entire movie, but that wasn't the case.

I do feel that for the next one they'll need to ramp it up a bit though, as I can see the format becoming stale.

freedominacup

The target audience from this house went to see the movie on Fri night along with a group made up of other members of the target audience. They enjoyed it. Compared well to the first one. Tbh if you're old enough to have a boards account you're probably far too old for your opinions to matter to the producers of this movie.

pixelburp

freedominacup wrote: »

The target audience from this house went to see the movie on Fri night along with a group made up of other members of the target audience. They enjoyed it. Compared well to the first one. Tbh if you're old enough to have a boards account you're probably far too old for your opinions to matter to the producers of this movie.

The target audience of most blockbusters, including the MCU films is about 16 - 30 these days, give or take a year or two. Theyre certainly the demographic most craved and sought for . So yeah, plenty of boards users' opinions are valid. It's not like we're discussing "The Boss Baby" or anything...

pjohnson

freedominacup wrote: »

The target audience from this house went to see the movie on Fri night along with a group made up of other members of the target audience. They enjoyed it. Compared well to the first one. Tbh if you're old enough to have a boards account you're probably far too old for your opinions to matter to the producers of this movie.

So you think the target audience is under18? How many under 18's will get Pac-Man and David Hasselhoff references. Surely it would be Justin Bieber or Peppa Pig. And Demi Lovato instead of Fleetwood Mac.

Evilsbane

Really enjoyed it. Better than the first one imo, although I realise I'm in the minority there.

I think where people are having problems is that they went into the first not knowing what to expect and came away amazed, whereas they went into this one having a fair idea of what to expect and got it. People in the cinema were roaring with laughter and the fireworks at the end were really emotional. It did everything I hoped it would.

Avatar MIA

pjohnson wrote: »

Surely it would be Justin Bieber or Peppa Pig. And Demi Lovato instead of Fleetwood Mac.

All credit to the Beebs, but wouldn't he be a tad young to be the Starlord's Dad?

MilesMorales1

Avatar MIA wrote: »

All credit to the Beebs, but wouldn't he be a tad young to be the Starlord's Dad?

It's a comic book film. You can make up any rule you like!

Avatar MIA

MilesMorales1 wrote: »

It's a comic book film. You can make up any rule you like!

You could, potentially, but would it be worth the pages and pages of people on Boards.ie whinging about it

:pac::D

pjohnson

Avatar MIA wrote: »

All credit to the Beebs, but wouldn't he be a tad young to be the Starlord's Dad?

Well

Hoff wasn't actually his dad just Ego messing around with Easter Eggs haha

freedominacup

pjohnson wrote: »

So you think the target audience is under18? How many under 18's will get Pac-Man and David Hasselhoff references. Surely it would be Justin Bieber or Peppa Pig. And Demi Lovato instead of Fleetwood Mac.

It's rated 12a. The references are for the grownups who are the A for the u12s.

pixelburp

freedominacup wrote: »

It's rated 12a. The references are for the grownups who are the A for the u12s.

Just because something is suitable for children doesn't make it made FOR children. The Marvel cinematic universe has a demonstrably wide demographics, blockbusters tending towards the younger adult bracket and I guess those wit more disposable income. The phenomenal success of the MCU franchise is down to the huge adult audience, simple as. If you're claiming some "these films are for kids" angle, it's proven false, financially and culturally. Kids love these films absolutely, but so do adults, men, women etc.

uncleoswald

Penn wrote: »

The film has its flaws, particularly with the action scenes and some of the comedy was overdone... but a 2/10? Jesus Christ... Hell I hated Batman V Superman for the most part and I'd still give it at least a 5.

Off topic I know but, you'd give a movie that you mostly hated a 5/10? To each their own but that sounds like your rating system is servery unbalanced.

Avatar MIA

pjohnson wrote: »

Well
Hoff wasn't actually his dad just Ego messing around with Easter Eggs haha

I know, but it is at least plausible.

Outlaw Pete

freedominacup wrote: »

Tbh if you're old enough to have a boards account you're probably far too old for your opinions to matter to the producers of this movie.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fChF1w9Dvno

Penn

uncleoswald wrote: »

Off topic I know but, you'd give a movie that you mostly hated a 5/10? To each their own but that sounds like your rating system is servery unbalanced.

It had enough good bits to bring it to a 5, mostly in the performances and a lot of the scenes, particularly with Batman. Plus a lot of my hate comes from my own expectations of what the film should have been as opposed to the quality of the film itself, and ultimately you have to judge a film based on what it was, not what it wasn't.

Penn

Anyway, just back from a second viewing. Have to say, the humour still holds up for the most part, as did all the Yondu scenes throughout. He really was the crux of the film.

The film still does drag in the middle and the same issues I had with it didn't improve on second viewing, but I still think it's a solid film, and still fun as hell.

Sudden Valley

Enjoyed the film but thought it wasn't as good as the first one. Pratt surprisingly have very little to do for most of the movie and like the first one the villain was bit meh. the baby groot jokes got old very quickly but I enjoyed the humour involving Bautista/Drax. Odd though having an ex-wrestler in a movie and giving him no had to hand combat scenes. Would recommend it.

johnnyskeleton

BMMachine wrote: »

well the big problem with this film is that it does nothing.

Could be said about any movie I suppose. I mean, it either entertains you or it doesnt. Its not going to do anything more than that, like make toast or fill in your taxes.

It has the same resolutions as the last film and our crew barely go anywhere or barely get involved with anything connected to anything else. In long parts of this film its just boring, sitting around on Kurt Russell: The Planet waiting for the action to come to them.

A bit like saying a football match is just a bunch of guys running around for 90 mins. I thought it delved a lot further into the universe and had a clear plot flow from beginning middle to end. I found the interactions with Kurt Russell to be very suspensful and well acted, and couldnt see where it was going.

The film is riddled with too many characters and too much stuff going on which has little consequence.

Well maybe, but I happen to like those little vignettes that expand the viewers understanding of the world. I accept thats not for everybody and sometimes people want a lot of focus. I wouldnt say this movie was the worst offender on the too many characters/plot points though and I didnt have trouble keeping up, even having never read the comics.

There is (as with all the Disney films) a complete lack of sexuality and everyone seems to be walking around like they have been castrated, anything that would provide emotion or context in this way (such as Starlords relationship with Gomorrah) is once again - told, not shown.

I strongly disagree with that. I thought the romance aspect was as good as the leia/han solo tension in the empire strikes back. It was fresh and well acted. I dont think its a spoiler to say there was no explicit nudity, if thats what you were looking for, but for me such overt sexualisation would ruin the cartoon/comic book feel of it.

It does have pretty colours and a big FX budget and explosions happen and all that but Im sorry, that is so run of the mill for todays films - they all have this, it doesn't score points for having spent a lot of money.

I suppose I shouldnt express a firm view on this because this was my first time seeing a proper iMax production. I found the whole thing looked beautiful on the screen and was genuinely squirming in my seat during some of the fast paced action scenes.

Maybe thats standard in iMax, but I felt the excitement of seeing a movie in the cinema that I havent felt since I was a kid!

The film itself does know its weaknesses and is fully aware of them, otherwise it wouldnt be distracting you all the time with a baby tree or cracking wise - anything to stop you thinking.

Id agree that Groot and the continuous references to the soundtrack/awesome mix were very self aware and I can see how you would be annoyed by them. I was happy to forgive them this because of the movies other qualities but yeah, it ought to have been toned back a bit.

The villain was again terrible as is the way with all these Marvel films and there was no stakes we haven't heard of before, no connections other than a hamfisted one with no emotional content.

Im not a big fan of the other marvel movies but I thought the villain was good. It might cause problems down the line with the series, but I thought it was interesting. I mean, if you watch enough movies eventually every theme and plot will be repeated so truly original plot lines are quite rare. What is less so is when they present a novel spin on an old plot line, and I think they had sufficent novelty in this to distinugish it.

All the derpy, repeatable and easily set up jokes in the world and all the cutesy aliens acting stupid in the world won't solve those problems, though they do serve their purpose well in distracting away from them.

I was in a packed cinema with lots of people belly laughing for this movie, and its not often you see that when the movie isnt specifically a comedy. Sense of humour is subjective but I dont know why you are so hard on it.

david75

Yeah this was really really sub par. Probably fatally.

I'd say we've seen the last of this franchise tbh

MilesMorales1

david75 wrote: »

Yeah this was really really sub par. Probably fatally.

I'd say we've seen the last of this franchise tbh

GOTG? Not only are they going to be in avengers 3/4, Vol 3 is already confirmed.

david75

MilesMorales1 wrote: »

GOTG? Not only are they going to be in avengers 3/4, Vol 3 is already confirmed.

Let's hope it's better than this one. It did have brilliant elements. But the whole didn't work. Fell short of what I'd call the marvel standard.

ceegee

freedominacup wrote: »

It's rated 12a. The references are for the grownups who are the A for the u12s.

The majority (55%) of people who watched the first guardians in the cinema were over 25. 18-24 year olds make up 17% of cinema audiences on average, and super hero movies generally do well with that age bracket, so probably looking at least 70% adults who went to see the first film in cinemas. Doubt there's that many more kids going to this one than went to the first

pixelburp

david75 wrote: »

Yeah this was really really sub par. Probably fatally.

I'd say we've seen the last of this franchise tbh

Not quite:

Director James Gunn Will Return For ‘Guardians of the Galaxy 3’

It'll take more than a disappointing sequel to kill off the MCU.

Penn

david75 wrote: »

Yeah this was really really sub par. Probably fatally.

I'd say we've seen the last of this franchise tbh

Even regardless of how a sequel is already greenlight and their involvement in the next Avengers film(s), the ratings and box-office for GOTG2 are high enough to warrant another film. Hell, Thor got another film after Thor: The Dark World and it was probably the worst MCU film to date.

While the majority of fans are largely in agreement that it wasn't as good as the first GOTG, very few think it was bad enough to not warrant a sequel.

tunguska

Went to see this saturday with some friends. They all liked it, but I wasn't impressed, liked the first one better. But then a mate called me monday and wanted to go see it and so I went again figuring I'd get 2 hours of kip at the very least. But for whatever reasons I actually enjoyed it a lot the second time round. It was funny and entertaining and moving in some parts. Best bit was Yondu, Rocket and baby Groot on the ship though.
Btw I just saw that its not opening in the states until this weekend. Anyone know why it opened in Europe before North America?

Penn

tunguska wrote: »

Btw I just saw that its not opening in the states until this weekend. Anyone know why it opened in Europe before North America?

I think it's because of the Bank Holiday. Every year Marvel release a movie at the start of May and we always get that one a week before the US, which I presume is to boost the Europe numbers in UK & Ireland with the bank holiday.

Nervous Wreck

Penn wrote: »

I think it's because of the Bank Holiday. Every year Marvel release a movie at the start of May and we always get that one a week before the US, which I presume is to boost the Europe numbers in UK & Ireland with the bank holiday.

We get all MCU movies a week in advance of the states. I don't really know why but it's all of them, which is class. Maybe to help drum up more excitement for the home market or something...?

PhiloCypher

Saw this on Sunday in Dundrum. I thought it was decent but nowhere near as good as the first one, which had left me grinning from ear to ear leaving the cinema .

While I was emotionally invested enough to get a lil dust in my eye when Yondu died

, I felt the film overall was a bit too try hard and cynical, where the first had been effortlessly fun and innocent(well as innocent as a 100 mill budgeted blockbuster can be).

It's like Gunn became a little to proud of this technological terror he'd constructed , oh people loved Drax's misuse of metaphor and humour lets double down on that, Baby Groot likewise. Even with the music I think Gunn, his ears ringing with the praise for his song choices with some of the less well known tracks for the first awesome mix , goes with a few exceptions , a bit too obscure with awesome mix 2.

Also shout out to the tazerface who thought it would be fun to zig zag a laser pen around the cinema screen like Yondu's Arrow . There's a special place in Ravenger hell for you sir.