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Ridley Scott: Aliens exist and they will come for us ....

LordSutch

Famous film producer Ridley Scott has said in an interview that Aliens exist and they will come for us ....

The veteran filmmaker is preparing to release the sixth film in the Alien sci-fi horror series, Alien: Covenant, next month.

He said: "I believe in superior beings. I think it is certainly likely.

http://news.sky.com/story/ridley-scott-aliens-exist-and-they-will-come-for-us-10853502

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BBDBB

buried wrote: »

If there are indeed Aliens capable of intergalactic space travel, stands to reason they would probably be intelligent beings, which leads me to believe they wouldn't come anywhere near us.
I'm not that bright myself but If I'm walking down the street and see a large gang of people killing each other with guns, drugs, oil and religion over the other side of the street the last thing I'll do is go over there.

These aliens have their I-phones out and are filming us

Yourself isit

flanna01 wrote: »

There are billion upon billions upon billion of stars (Suns to the ignorant)

The vast majority of these stars / Suns have planets spinning around them

A percentage of these planets reside I the 'Goldilocks zone' - Not too hot, not to cold - Eg: Perfect for life as we know it.

Does anybody really think we are alone in the Universe..? That we are so special? Are the chosen ones?? Pleeeease!!!!

Take a step back.... We are pointing weapons of mass destruction at each other, starving each other, bombing each other, killing each other.......

Religion was created to control the masses - Its as real as the Tellytubbies are...

Be nice to each other, respect each other - Stop thinking / believing we are the offspring of the God's created in his own image....

You are not - You are probably the most advanced (intellectually) bug, on the planet at the moment.

That's great except religion was often an uprising against established hierarchies, we might well be alone in the galaxy (probably not the universe) and we aren't bugs.

[Deleted User]

I want to believe

BBDBB

If they exist and if they are coming, whose to say they aren't on a crusade themselves, wanting to convert us non believers to follow the teachings of their God

Calibos

Its ironic that the more that we learn the more likely it seems that Independence Day Aliens or the Borg may be more likely to exist than some hyper evolved, hyper intelligent, hyper advanced, hyper peaceful space blobs.

If Scotty was right and that we nor any other species can break the laws of physics we could have a universe teeming with life but we'll never get to meet them because the distances between us are just too great. Odds are that very few species will ever get to communicate with each other in any meaningful way either unless they were lucky enough to evolve on a planet in a couple of hundred lightyear wide bubble that happened to contain another planet where intelligent life evolved at virtually the same time. ie. Doesn't matter if intelligent life existed on a planet orbiting a star only 50 light years away....if it evolved during the time of the dinosaurs here on earth. Spectroscopy might be able to tell them there is life on earth but they'll never get to visit, a probe from them would take epochs to get here and Dinosaurs don't have radio. 60 million years later the Dinosaurs are gone and Earth finally has an intelligent sentient species....but the species around that star 50 lightyears away are long dead.

However, if Faster Than Light travel is possible by some means then its probably likely that a species doesn't strictly need to invent it itself. The species just needs to be advanced enough to develop an advanced AI and its the AI that figures out FTL travel. You've now put FTL travel into the hands of a species that likely still believes in God, rapes and murders and is capable of hacking each other to bits or blowing each other to pieces. ie. Humanity will be the same in 50 or 100 years time, but AI might give us FTL before this century is out!

Convergent evolution probably means that the requirements for intelligence to arise are the same everywhere and evolution will arrive at similar solutions. Intelligence requires lots of calories for the brain so will likely only arise in predators. Predators invariably have binocular vision, Binocular vision is required for depth perception and manipulating the world. Freeing up some appendages to more easily manipulate the world. ie. Convergent evolution likely means that most of not all intelligent life is bipedal with two eyes and at least two arms.

So ironically although Hollywood went with anthropomorphic aliens for simple cost of special effects and makeup reasons, its actually more likely to be closer to the truth than some alien squid creature!

In that scenario, if we near future humans manage to maintain control of the AI after its given us FTL, we might end up being the equivalent of the rapacious Aliens in Independence day. If we lose control of the AI and it wipes us out we might end up being the equivalent of the Borg or Terminators.

This is why no less than Stephen Hawking believes that in the event of FTL being possible and us being visited by aliens its actually more likely they'll be not much more evolved than us socially or culturally or morally and that there is a very great risk of the lessons of the past when a more advanced human civilisation met a less advanced one holding true for contact between humanity and alien life.

Cloudio9

LordSutch wrote: »

I agree, apart from the machine guns in the tunnel scene (Aliens) which I really love!

Gun No:2 nearly out of ammo.............

"sh1t, they're banging on the hatch"

Bang bang, panic.

Yes I love that scene. Incredible tension.

Also I don't remember the exact quote but the sense of fear when the little girl says to Ripley "they usually come at night........... usually"

Dublin Pintman

Aliens invade and we respond by holding hands, singing songs, chanting 'we will not give you our hate' and changing our facebook profile pictures.

Humanity confirmed for most cucked race in the galaxy.

rossie1977

We always assume that alien life would be around our level of advancement (give or take a couple of hundred or thousand years) in solid humanoid form flying around in ships but if there was a race say a billion years more advanced they could potentially manipulate time and space itself and would be viewed as gods were they to make themselves known

We as humans are still a long way from reaching level 1 on the kardashev scale (a scale designed to determine the level of advancement of a species)

flanna01

Quick lesson on Light Years for the un-informed..

Because the distance in space is so vast (nearly incomprehensible to the average mind), we have to use the term 'Light Years'.

Why Light Years you ask?

Because light is the fastest travelling thing known to mankind at the moment.

Light travels at around 86,000 miles per second! That' right - Per second! About 5.1 millions miles a minute!!!

So over a full 24 hr day - Light will travel 3,715,200,00 miles (give or take a few yards)

So when you hear the white coats saying - Planet X is about 30 Light Years away.... Man, that's a long way away!!

So... If some advanced race received all our transmissions and carbon footprint fallout, do you really think they'll saddle up and travel for Ga-Zillion's of years just to see us? (Why? Are we that interesting? And we will probably have nuked ourselves long before they complete 1% of the inter galatical journey)

Speed of light travel ? No proof or evidence that it I possible. Even if it is - The current structure of the human body could never withstand it (note- most people get sick on a roller coaster / try cranking up the speed to light speed!)

Thebe

it will happen eventually but not in any of our life-times imho

0gac3yjefb5sv7

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Prometheus is pretty decent in fairness to the old man

Ridley Scott is a man?!?

Nabber

flanna01 wrote: »

There are billion upon billions upon billion of stars (Suns to the ignorant)

The vast majority of these stars / Suns have planets spinning around them

A percentage of these planets reside I the 'Goldilocks zone' - Not too hot, not to cold - Eg: Perfect for life as we know it.

Does anybody really think we are alone in the Universe..? That we are so special? Are the chosen ones?? Pleeeease!!!!

Take a step back.... We are pointing weapons of mass destruction at each other, starving each other, bombing each other, killing each other.......

Religion was created to control the masses - Its as real as the Tellytubbies are...

Be nice to each other, respect each other - Stop thinking / believing we are the offspring of the God's created in his own image....

You are not - You are probably the most advanced (intellectually) bug, on the planet at the moment.

Sound like some blind faith you have there.
Almost like religious belief.

The question is no longer whether a planet could support life, it's why and how does life start in the first place.

we can't make complex amino acids become life in a lab environment. Who's to say it would ever happen again?

rockatansky

Can't really see any issue with his logic.

As usual we have the centre of the universe complex, if there's other life out there then they're most definitely going to want to come to earth.

If s species on another planet has managed to achieve interstellar travel then they would have sufficient technology to have a look at whats going on down here without us knowing and see how big of s sh*t show we've created for ourselves.

My guess is that there's some beacon floating in space transmitting a message to all travellers to give this one a miss, it's not worth the hassle.

Dublin Pintman

BBDBB wrote: »

If they exist and if they are coming, whose to say they aren't on a crusade themselves, wanting to convert us non believers to follow the teachings of their God

Space Muslims?

Donald Trump

judeboy101 wrote: »

Hopefully they'll take him first for his crimes against humanity i.e. Bladerunner 2 and Prometheus

Bladerunner 2? Will have to wait til he gets out of prison. That said, he only got 5 or 6 years

flanna01

Life did not originate on Planet Earth in the beginning of the planets formation.

Obviously - Earth was a massive lump of molten Iron spewing liquid rock in the form of lava..

The planet had to cool down first to have any chance of life evolving.

Then we must add the magic ingredient - namely water

This was delivered to us by comet express, big boulders of ice and slush

Multiple chemical reactions had to take place over millions of year before we had the perfect soup for life (hence them poor boys in the lab need to be a little more patient with their Frankenstein efforts..)

There are several scientific papers released on the theory of the beginnings of life on Earth - Any of them make more sense that a carpenters Son (well.. erm... not really his biological son), claiming to be the Son of the Universe maker, preaching from the good book, that duly put a premature end to his short life, in a quite brutal fashion. Or... The other fella that hopped on a horse that sprouted wings and galloped off into the heavens...??

[Deleted User]

Jaysus lads can ye not leave out the agendas for a bit and just post a few history channel memes or something

Outlaw Pete

Maybe he was just referring to Syrian nymphomaniacs.

Cloudio9

flanna01 wrote: »

Quick lesson on Light Years for the un-informed..

Because the distance in space is so vast (nearly incomprehensible to the average mind), we have to use the term 'Light Years'.

Why Light Years you ask?

Because light is the fastest travelling thing known to mankind at the moment.

Light travels at around 86,000 miles per second! That' right - Per second! About 5.1 millions miles a minute!!!

So over a full 24 hr day - Light will travel 3,715,200,00 miles (give or take a few yards)

So when you hear the white coats saying - Planet X is about 30 Light Years away.... Man, that's a long way away!!

So... If some advanced race received all our transmissions and carbon footprint fallout, do you really think they'll saddle up and travel for Ga-Zillion's of years just to see us? (Why? Are we that interesting? And we will probably have nuked ourselves long before they complete 1% of the inter galatical journey)

Speed of light travel ? No proof or evidence that it I possible. Even if it is - The current structure of the human body could never withstand it (note- most people get sick on a roller coaster / try cranking up the speed to light speed!)

That's some quality Mansplaining there chief.

rossie1977

We are pretty insignificant in the grand scheme of things within our own galaxy never mind the whole observable universe http://www.planetary.org/multimedia/space-images/universe/extent-of-human-radio-broadcasts.html

BBDBB

Dublin Pintman wrote: »

Space Muslims?

the religion of space peace

OptimusTractor

Paleblood wrote: »

Blade Runner 2049 is being directed by Denis Villeneuve, the in-form director behind last year's Arrival, one of the best sci-fi movies of the past 25 years and the recipient of 8 Oscar nominations, including Best Picture and Best Director.

Personally, I'm very excited.

Found Arrival to be boring & bland.

learn_more

flanna01 wrote: »

Life did not originate on Planet Earth in the beginning of the planets formation.

Obviously - Earth was a massive lump of molten Iron spewing liquid rock in the form of lava..

The planet had to cool down first to have any chance of life evolving.

Then we must add the magic ingredient - namely water

This was delivered to us by comet express, big boulders of ice and slush

Multiple chemical reactions had to take place over millions of year before we had the perfect soup for life (hence them poor boys in the lab need to be a little more patient with their Frankenstein efforts..)

There are several scientific papers released on the theory of the beginnings of life on Earth - Any of them make more sense that a carpenters Son (well.. erm... not really his biological son), claiming to be the Son of the Universe maker, preaching from the good book, that duly put a premature end to his short life, in a quite brutal fashion. Or... The other fella that hopped on a horse that sprouted wings and galloped off into the heavens...??

So where did the water form firstly ? In gaseous space transferring to a commet and then to earth ?

Capt'n Midnight

Deleted User wrote: »

Prometheus is pretty decent in fairness to the old man

As a standalone film yes.

As part of the Aliens series no , it's not canon, too divergent.

Capt'n Midnight

dmc17 wrote: »

Sure they surely can't be much worse than humans

Humans are bastards.

We live in a world where the eight richest humans have accumulated as much wealth as half our species.

There is pretty much nothing some humans won't do to others if they know there will be no retaliation. And shown by many wars have when one side has a large technological advantage.

ET wouldn't even need much of a technological advantage, because they could decimate us just by dropping rocks from orbit.

Rezident

If there were aliens there would at least be some evidence. No such thing.

Messengers

Rezident wrote: »

If there were aliens there would at least be some evidence. No such thing.

Yeah, it's not like the universe is infinite and there are countless planets like our own in existence.

The_Valeyard

Messengers wrote: »

Yeah, it's not like the universe is infinite and there are countless planets like our own in existence.

We are all inside marbles.

learn_more

Rezident wrote: »

If there were aliens there would at least be some evidence. No such thing.

Haven't you watched Independence Day?

Wibbs

Is there life out there? Chances are pretty high, given it evolved here. However, for most of the planet's existence life here was very basic(much of it still is even today. Consider that you reading this has a body half made up of "you" and half made up of bacteria). Then we had a set of circumstances that kicked off more complex life(Cambrian big freeze one suspect), then it got all sorts of complex, crawled out on land and looked to be going in a certain way. Then the Permian extinction, about the worst in Earth's history, killed damned near everything in sight, wiping out millions of species. Another reset, then the trajectory of life kicked off again with the survivors only for a meteorite to come in and kick off another mass extinction event and say bye bye to the dinosaurs(and many others). then the age of mammals and so forth and then various apes, that initially sprung up in a tiny area, diversified and ultimately led to us. There are a lot of what if's in our evolution. Maybe another creature could have become something like us? There were many bipedal dinosaurs, with grasping hands, quite large brains(their relatives birds can be extremely bright with apparently small enough brains). Maybe one of them might have gone down the road of intelligence as a survival "trick"?

Though this brings us around to another point illustrated in C's great post:

Calibos wrote: »

Convergent evolution probably means that the requirements for intelligence to arise are the same everywhere and evolution will arrive at similar solutions. Intelligence requires lots of calories for the brain so will likely only arise in predators. Predators invariably have binocular vision, Binocular vision is required for depth perception and manipulating the world. Freeing up some appendages to more easily manipulate the world. ie. Convergent evolution likely means that most of not all intelligent life is bipedal with two eyes and at least two arms.

Quite likely C(if the environment is broadly similar), but it raises another question for me, one that has interested me for a while. As you say convergent evolution tends to bring forth extremely similar responses to evolutionary pressures. So lots of very unrelated different animals living in water evolve a "fish" shape. Fishes themselves, sharks, dinosaurs, dolphins. Flight impacts similarly, to give us "flying things" of unrelated species.

And all of these convergent adaptations have occurred many times in many species throughout the story of life on Earth, save for one; intelligence*. That particular adaptation seems to be very very rarely positively selected for and requires a particular set of narrow circumstances for it to kick off. That particular adaptation has only kicked off the once, in broadly one place, in one narrow set of species, the great apes. Even within that group only one line went full brainiac. Even within that one line that started to grow huge brains and diversify, only one among them evolved a particular intelligence like ours. Humans with big brains have been around for at least half a million years, 100,000 years ago there were a few out there alongside us. They might have been a resourceful intelligent group of peoples, but we were different. That difference was subtle at first but it grew and grew until a point was reached where we sailed off far away into the distance and they faded out.

Take one massive "killer app"; symbolic culture. A couple of square metres of say a French cave that we inhabited will throw up more cultural artefacts than the entire history of such artefacts(most of which are debatable) of all the humans that preceded us, anywhere in the world.

Oh and BTW, to all those "religion is mindless nonsense" folks out there, consider this; it may be increasingly irrelevant today, but it was one of the main driving forces of modern human's becoming modern humans. It was our first attempt to divine(no pun. Well..) the fabric of reality around us, to divine ourselves and our relationship to that reality and that need to know is what ultimately gave us science and post Enlightenment rational thinking and got us to where we are today. One day we may become gods in our power and understanding, we may even create new universes in the lab and when that day comes, we will have that human need and expectation that gods could exist to thank for it.

So imagine another "Earth" that somehow got to the point where big brains were selected for and gave rise to "apemen", but for some reason our particular kind of intelligence never took off. And it may well not have. Our ancestors did very well, for a very very long time without going full Sapiens. If we landed there we'd see small groups of resourceful cavemen, but no cities and advanced tech. If such cavemen ever took off in the first place...

As for aliens? I'd reckon that any species that got to our level, understood the workings of evolution itself and started to tinker with it, would sooner or later do something no other creature could even dream of doing. That is engineer our own descendants, our replacements. I suspect that if we do find aliens, or they come to us, they will be what we might term AI type species. One that long left their naturally evolved bodies behind. This would also solve the distance problem. Travel time means little to an immortal species that can hibernate in between the interesting bits.

Might they be warlike such as Hawking suggests? We simply can't know and he most certainly doesn't(he's an OK physicist, but beyond that his opinions carry about as much weight as any other halfway intelligent public talking head). We as biological creatures with the veneer of mind overlaying our all too finite body have very anthropocentric mindsets. AI type creatures would have very different mindsets and needs. Maybe information is what the get the horn for. Who knows. Though they might wipe us out as a byproduct of not really seeing us, much as we might kick over an ants nest by mistake. It wouldn't be personal.

*before the cries of "other animals have intelligence!"

Yes some do. But none come close to the suite of features and sheer brainpower of humans. Yes, other animals can use tools for example, once thought to be our preserve, but show me another creature that makes a tool to make other tools.