davidk1394 wrote: » Will he be for the freezer ? There seems to be a lot of lameness across flicks this year. Is there any specific reason for it ?
charolais0153 wrote: » No I'd say . a good bit of LA.eness alright but nothing formalin didn't solve
rangler1 wrote: » Lmaeness is only a problem at 6 wks if you don't deal with it then, I often had to carry one into the yard and he'd be jumping around in two days after footbathing, lambs are born with soft feet and are easy scalded when they're young, especially if there's good grass after mild winterbut iits never an issue after first footbathing
roosky wrote: » I tried foot bathing last weekend......had to call it off no lambs would go trough it, ewes turning back, lambs getting trampled and me getting vexed. How do you do it??
charolais0153 wrote: » Was it in a cattle crush. put in a few ewes with the top of the race closed. Open the gate and start having the lambs following the ewes . the majority will go through but for the rest of them I'll just dip their feet in the foothbath
roosky wrote: » I tried to run approx 160 lambs and their mother through, ended up with all ewes and about 10 lambs gone through footbath, What are you foot bathing with
farawaygrass wrote: » Stop vexed is tfe word. One tip that we do is run them trough it without any liquid in it first maybe 2 times. They're not as afraid if the race itself then
rangler1 wrote: » Just after talking to a neighbour that puts straw in the footbath and uses formalin, he says they run through no problem with the ewes......with formalin it's enough to just run through, no need for them to just stand
ganmo wrote: » Is there any water in it when he's doin that? Would the straw help clean the hooves too?
rangler1 wrote: » Yea, I think the proportion is only two percent formalin in the water and the straw is only to blind the water so they'd be less afraid of it, liquid would come up through the straw when they walk on it. I'm sure someone will be along to say what the concentration for farmalin is
charolais0153 wrote: » Does the organic matter k the stra not render the formalin useless after a oeiod of time. The concentration is 3-5%i think
tomwaterford wrote: » I imagine evaporation us a bigger issue? But I did read somewhere before that it weakens it (much like putting them straight onto grass after it)... -yes I know this has been debunked by Ganmo!
rangler1 wrote: » Yea I always thought that formalin deteriorated very quick too, It's expensive to make up my footbath, I use Zinc sulphate and I can leave it for 2 or three weeks before i change it, I often used it effectively when it was like watery slurry and it still worked.....don't think that formalin would stay active that long. I use a hydrometer to test it and if it's near 10% zinc sulphate, I can work away I think it I'd be risking the straw in the formalin if it's as easy as my friend says it was, have no reason to doubt him, he put 300 lambs with their ewes through it on tuesday evening
tomwaterford wrote: » What is the cost of zinc sulphate?? (Roughly) We do find the formalin very effective and suits as only part time and has tone be time effective...
orm0nd wrote: » 30- 32 euro for 25 kgs find it very effective
rangler1 wrote: » orm0nd wrote: » 30- 32 euro for 25 kgs find it very effective everything works if it only scalds that you're dealing with.....just to get around to doing it. I often got good results from formalin just by making a pen and race with footbaths in the field and letting them make their own way out of it, but the grass would have to be very dry. When I bought the cormac footbaths first there used to be 2 inch sponges in them,... same effect as the straw i suppose I'm asthmatic and formalin seems to be a trigger and sometimes can take weeks for my breathing to settle after an attack, so best to avoid
Farrell wrote: » Why & how much straw do you use?
orm0nd wrote: » serious pnuemonia outbreak in the breeding rams, 1 dead and the rest being pumped with antibotics bank holiday my arse
Username John wrote: » Would have thought they'd be ok this time of year, given they haven't been working for a few months and so should be well recovered from the autumn?
