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Web Summit quits Dublin

Kermit.de.frog

wow, major blow to Dublin as a "tech capital".

no doubt this is mostly due to the embarrassing broad band wifi service provided last year by the RDS which really riled the organisers.

http://www.rte.ie/news/2015/0923/729704-web-summit/

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Seth Brundle

serfboard wrote: »

"Dear Mr. Cosgrave,

Thank you for your interest in bringing the Web Summit back to Dublin, but we are afraid that, since Dublin has already replaced it with a Tech Summit, we could not possibly organise two tech summits given your opinion that we couldn't organise one.

Thank you for your interest, and we wish you all the best in your career in Portugal."

Will he be looking for a reference?

Sofiztikated

murpho999 wrote: »

How can organizing a conference be on more complicated than arranging a music festival or big bloody wedding.

They just have to book speakers, and arrange facilities.

They way they go as if the company is achieving something amazing is very galling.

A big conference can be quite intricate, and most venues would rather a big bloody wedding than a big bloody conference.

But he's not curing cancer.

ToddyDoody

serfboard wrote: »

Paddy made the (naturally for him) egotistical mistake of thinking he was the attraction.

Now, to his surprise he has discovered that it was Dublin that was the attraction. Lisbon mustn't have been all Paddy made it out to be :rolleyes:

Other Tech-Summity-type things (like the Dublin Tech Summit) are now cashing in on the opportunity and benefitting from their founders not making arses of themselves.

As my mother would say "that softened his cough"

murpho999

How can organizing a conference be any more complicated than arranging a music festival or big bloody wedding.

They just have to book speakers, and arrange facilities.

They way they go as if the company is achieving something amazing is very galling.

andekwarhola

Like the kid that threatens to leave home and their bluff is called; sneaks back a few weeks later to find his room redecorated.

SEPT 23 1989

I presume all suppliers will increase their prices accordingly

serfboard

Sofiztikated wrote: »

Could it be possible for him to approach whoever, about the Web Summit coming back to Dublin, and be told "Nah, you're alright mate, jog on."

Cos that should be televised.

"Dear Mr. Cosgrave,

Thank you for your interest in bringing the Web Summit back to Dublin, but we are afraid that, since Dublin has already replaced it with a Tech Summit, we could not possibly organise two tech summits given your opinion that we couldn't organise one.

Thank you for your interest, and we wish you all the best in your career in Portugal."

Sofiztikated

Could it be possible for him to approach whoever, about the Web Summit coming back to Dublin, and be told "Nah, you're alright mate, jog on."

Cos that should be televised.

Dyr

three roll eyes posts in a row, such is the contempt yer man is held in

have another ya skidmark :rolleyes:

serfboard

Paddy made the (naturally for him) egotistical mistake of thinking he was the attraction.

Now, to his surprise he has discovered that it was Dublin that was the attraction. Lisbon mustn't have been all Paddy made it out to be :rolleyes:

Other Tech-Summity-type things (like the Dublin Tech Summit) are now cashing in on the opportunity and benefitting from their founders not making arses of themselves.

eviltimeban

"Trinity degrees are optional" :rolleyes:

Dyr

VinLieger wrote: »

Hope it fails miserably, saw hes also hiring someone specifically to liaise and try make nice with the Irish government again as well

I wonder what Frank Flannery is up to these days? :rolleyes:

VinLieger

kbannon wrote: »

Momma, I'm coming home...
https://www.irishtimes.com/business/technology/paddy-cosgrave-hopes-for-web-summit-s-return-to-dublin-1.3060716?mode=amp

Hope it fails miserably, saw hes also hiring someone specifically to liaise and try make nice with the Irish government again as well so im guessing Lisbon saw through his bull**** and its not gonna last too long there.
From talking to people who have worked there id advise everyone to steer well clear

Mal-Adjusted

he described winning back the event as being akin to securing the Rugby World Cup.

God, he never changes...

Seth Brundle

Momma, I'm coming home...
https://www.irishtimes.com/business/technology/paddy-cosgrave-hopes-for-web-summit-s-return-to-dublin-1.3060716?mode=amp

ZeroThreat

Deleted User wrote: »

Paddy Cosgrave is on with Marian "4 hours per week for €300,000" Finucane at the moment.

He said at the start he just called his child "Cloud". Really hard to listen to anything he's saying now. Himself and Geldof need to get a room. Serious gobshíte.

Wicklow farmer ruined by going to Trinners.

Just imagine what Miley would have turned out like.

[Deleted User]

Paddy Cosgrave is on with Marian "4 hours per week for €300,000" Finucane at the moment.

He said at the start he just called his child "Cloud". Really hard to listen to anything he's saying now. Himself and Geldof need to get a room. Serious gobshíte.

BMMachine

tinpib wrote: »

Again taking a quick skim from time to time of #websummit on Twitter I'm not seeing very many complaints at all. In general people talking about the talks and not whinging about things.

no its a disaster and its sh*t. people on after hours on boards.ie said so and that basically means its a fact

tinpib

Again taking a quick skim from time to time of #websummit on Twitter I'm not seeing very many complaints at all. In general people talking about the talks and not whinging about things.

ZeroThreat

mzungu wrote: »

Must have been starving waiting that long for a byte to eat.

Next up for Paddy is becoming a travelling salesman for monorail.

mzungu

namloc1980 wrote: »

Food situation in Lisbon getting slated on twitter. Hour long queues. Poor selection and some vendors only accepting cash.....at the bloody web summit! Farce.

Must have been starving waiting that long for a byte to eat.

namloc1980

Food situation in Lisbon getting slated on twitter. Hour long queues. Poor selection and some vendors only accepting cash.....at the bloody web summit! Farce.

VinLieger

prinzeugen wrote: »

Why are RTE giving this so much time? There are tons of conferences and exhibitions held in Ireland but they never get broadcast live on RTE.

The twat is in Lisbon now so RTE should give it zero airtime.

Nah im grand with it getting negative attention, sure remember Sharons interview with paddys junior vice president last year? I think that set the tone for all future RTE coverage and rightly so tbh

prinzeugen

Gabriela Spicy Clarinet wrote: »

https://www.rte.ie/news/2016/1107/829929-web-summit/

Opening event in Lisbon

Why are RTE giving this so much time? There are tons of conferences and exhibitions held in Ireland but they never get broadcast live on RTE.

The twat is in Lisbon now so RTE should give it zero airtime.

Seth Brundle

Muahahaha wrote: »

Likewise with the Web Summit- 30,000 people, the majority of them from abroad and the Govt feels on no level do they have a responsibility to at least help make the event a success in the hope of attracting more of these €100m boosts to the economy ?

Muahahaha wrote: »

the Web Summit was good for Dublin and Dublin was good for the Web Summit. It brought 30,000 people into the city from abroad during the tourist off-season, from an economic perspective it had huge upside.

Just checking, are you sure that 30k people travelled into Ireland from abroad for the WS and if so have you a source?

Calina

Muahahaha wrote: »

yeah I think its mainly because Paddy has rubbed a lot of people up the wrong way. But if you take a step back from all the noise and look at the bigger picture then you can only come to the conclusion that the Web Summit was good for Dublin and Dublin was good for the Web Summit. It brought 30,000 people into the city from abroad during the tourist off-season, from an economic perspective it had huge upside.

A cursory search of Trivago shows there are 503 available rooms in Dublin for tomorrow night. If the Summit was still here they would have all been sold out months ago instead of going empty as they are now.

TBH, I don't really buy the Web Summit being good for Dublin. Sure Dublin was good for it, because it's where it was born. But from the point of view of someone who should be target audience for it, the key issues I have with the Web Summit is that it was too big to be interesting, far too many of the speakers were not technologists, but tangential to tech. Money more than tech, tbh.

I don't think we typically have the scale to run events like the WebSummit, and I think it was telling that the high profile WebSummit funding successes dated from the early days when its numbers were considerably lower. 30 other smaller scale conferences would bring in the same number of people and potentially, create better networking opportunities. And we do have the wherewithal and facilities to do those things. What they lack is the mass scale PR and publicity which Websummit had. Is this a good thing? Probably.

I wish Lisbon well with Websummit but to be honest, I'm not sure it's a life changing experience for the city here, and I don't think we've lost that much.

gandalf

Muahahaha wrote: »

yeah I think its mainly because Paddy has rubbed a lot of people up the wrong way. But if you take a step back from all the noise and look at the bigger picture then you can only come to the conclusion that the Web Summit was good for Dublin and Dublin was good for the Web Summit. It brought 30,000 people into the city from abroad during the tourist off-season, from an economic perspective it had huge upside.

A cursory search of Trivago shows there are 503 available rooms in Dublin for tomorrow night. If the Summit was still here they would have all been sold out months ago instead of going empty as they are now.

TBH yes as an "event" it is a success but a success built on very shady sales tactics directed at cash strapped startups and exploitation of volunteers and over hype.

If I was starting up a digital business I would avoid the web summit as a means to try and secure any sort of funding. It now suffers from too much noise.

With regard to the hotels. They are doing very well these days. If there are 503 rooms available out of an estimated room pool of 19000 rooms that's an occupancy rate of over 97% which is excellent. They don't need the Web Summit based on this calculation.

Personally at this stage the whole thing is a social mediawancfest and provides very little of any substance at all. There is a gap there for a meaningful startup orientated event based out of Ireland still.

Muahahaha

ChikiChiki wrote: »

Genuinely can't understand how people continue to ignore it's obvious success. People are declaring it a failure because the burgers were to dear and the WiFi didn't work well last year. Yet the numbers are up! They're doing something right. The stats don't lie.

Like you I'm off the opinion both Paddy and the Govt acted like petulant kids but the Govt should have seen the bigger picture.

yeah I think its mainly because Paddy has rubbed a lot of people up the wrong way. But if you take a step back from all the noise and look at the bigger picture then you can only come to the conclusion that the Web Summit was good for Dublin and Dublin was good for the Web Summit. It brought 30,000 people into the city from abroad during the tourist off-season, from an economic perspective it had huge upside.

A cursory search of Trivago shows there are 503 available rooms in Dublin for tomorrow night. If the Summit was still here they would have all been sold out months ago instead of going empty as they are now.

ThisRegard

5rtytry56 wrote: »

Statement of the obvious I know, clearly there are people reading this thread like myself who believe that paddy c got his just desserts the way things worked out for his web summit.
There are also most ardent supporters for paddy and his enterprise reading it and making some positive noise.

Just sayin'

There was a series of tweets yesterday purporting to be from different people, but all somehow managed to capture the exact same photograph and just as miraculously post the same thing, all in praise.

Muahahaha

AlmightyCushion wrote: »

Yes, a traffic management plan should be put in place but the government doesn't need to get involved. We have 10,000s of people attending the All Ireland, internation football and rugby games, concerts and other events every year and the government doesn't get involved in creating traffic managements plans. The companies themselves do it, so why can't WebSummit?

You use sporting events as a comparison but as I said already it is not comparable as they take place on weekends in the summer when Dublin is typically quite dead. You cant compare the event organisation of something like that to what is needed for something like the Summt being held over four working days in Dublin 4 which is already thronged with traffic, people going to work, etc.

But even with GAA events some government decision making takes place. After all it is the DoT who fund Irish Rail whose fares are subsidised by the taxpayer. So when extra trains are put on for GAA events then on some level the DoT needs to give Irish Rail an extra funding to do so. And they do and rightly so. But decisions like that will have input from the Minister for Transport of the day who controls the transport budget.

Likewise with the Web Summit- 30,000 people, the majority of them from abroad and the Govt feels on no level do they have a responsibility to at least help make the event a success in the hope of attracting more of these €100m boosts to the economy ? Why do we even have Failte Ireland if the Minister for Tourism isnt going to harness them to ensure events like this can become the norm for Dublin? Theres no point Failte spending millions on trying to get visitors into the country and then when they get here they face a clusterfcuk of a transport system. Other cities seem to manage this fine but Dublin didnt.

You have also got to remember that Ireland has one of the most centralised power structures in all western democracies. County councillors here are completely powerless to make any of the sort of decisions that could ensure an event this big runs smoothly. They have no say over transport, traffic planning, use of Gardai, etc. That power all lies in the government itself as was seen in 2014 when Garth Brooks went pleading to Enda to have his concert held. It is dumb, I agree but we have a remarkably weak local governement in Ireland that simply doesnt have the power to deal with anything even remotely out of the ordinary

Don't forget that WebSummit wanted the fees associated in closing roads to be waived as well. Why should they get these fees waived when any one else looking to close down a road for an event has to pay?

Agree with you here, Paddy certainly rubbed people up the wrong way and he always seemed to want stuff for free, including paying his employees. Of course he should have to pay but the cheeky pup tried getting it for free. But just because he asks for something for free doesnt mean they couldnt have put a price on it and charged him accordingly. And it doesnt mean he shouldnt have been engaged with to solve the problems and keep the event in Dublin. And thats what happened- lets not forget he sent dozens of emails to the Taoiseachs advisor who led him up a garden path before rustling together a three page report on a traffic management plan when it was obvious that a few scribblings would not solve the chronic traffic problems.