CoolHandBandit wrote: » Yes but it still has vast power and influence and the fightback against free speech and thought has already begun by censoring views and news on the internet by the establishment.
Depp wrote: » true, but I really feel thats reached its peak, people know whats going on now
CoolHandBandit wrote: » Go online and listen (or even visit) to some of the preaching from even a "moderate" mosque and it's an eye opener. They aren't interested in integration in the slightest and are steadfast on converting people to their belief system. The hatred from the preachers at the not so moderate mosques is off the scales. This needs to be discussed on the airwaves,TV, in public etc.. and let it be known it isn't acceptable in our society.
Depp wrote: » Beyondgone wrote: » Racist! :D:D They won't run you down with a lorry, but if they get you onto a couch, they can do serious harm to your boredom threshold.
Beyondgone wrote: » Racist! :D:D
CoolHandBandit wrote: » Yes but it still has vast power and influence and the fightback against free speech and thought has already begun by censoring views and news on the internet by the establishment. The establishment has used the media to shape peoples opinions for years and they aren't going to give that up easily.
The Fake Sheikh wrote: » In what way has it been made "sh*tter"?
Danzy wrote: » I've been to some, listened to some, now people who have practiced at these Mosques. What we consider moderate in many Mosques would be be militant far right in a Catholic Church, significantly further to the right of Franco.
Mountainsandh wrote: » He was a French teacher once, but he got fired as he defended Sharia law and lapidation of women in a newspaper article.
Irish Praetorian wrote: » Stoning, just going to save everyone 10 seconds.
Beyondgone wrote: » As a "thought for the day" - what's to stop a determined, religiously motivated person, with a deep and abiding hatred of the western way of life, morals and religious views(those are the hardest people to combat - they don't fear death, they welcome it) - taking a large truck, filling it with containers of petrol and gas bottles, with a simple detonator - and running that the length of a packed Grafton St before detonating it while buried into the front windows of Brown Thomas? What level of carnage would that produce? Who or what would stop that as it unfolded? The answer? There is nothing and no one would be able to prevent that scenario. Which is a new and dangerous level of escalation on traditional terrorist tactics. If the security forces had their hands full with people who phoned in warnings of imminent attacks, what chance do they have with people who give no warning? Do you stop and inspect every truck entering a city? What if they take a truck that is already in that city perimeter? Or simply skip the explosive aspect and step into an idling lorry doing a delivery and head off through the nearest crowded public space? It isn't difficult to train someone to drive a lorry. Or costly. It's a tactic that must keep the heads of EU security awake at night.
Master mariner wrote: » The terrorsuspect Rahkmat Akilov was using whatsapp and had a chat before and after the attack with his ISIL contact! He brags about driving over 10 people!!He even made a video before he left the scene?? He said it was revenge for Sweden bombing his country?
biko wrote: » It shows clearly that the attack was premeditated and that he was not a lone attacker with temporary insanity. Most of us with more than two brain-cells to rub together knew this was going to happen since Taimour Abdulwahab tried blowing people up on Queen street in 2010. It was just a question of when and how.
silverharp wrote: » anyone find it odd that Syrian corpses can be shoved in our faces by the media when emotional response required but not when something happens in Europe, there is a sort of brush it under the carpet, nothing to see here approach. Sweden have a lot to answer for on this, its the second terrorist event there where someone due to be deported was just left to their own devices.
biko wrote: » It shows clearly that the attack was premeditated and that he was not a lone attacker with temporary insanity. Most of us with more than two brain-cells to rub together knew this was going to happen since Taimour Abdulwahab tried blowing people up on Queen street in 2010. It was just a question of when and how. Swedish PM Stefan Löfven can **** right off. Him and the previous PM Fredrik Reinfeldt is in large part to blame for every death and rape at immigrants hands. Reinfeldt probably more than Löfven.
Widdershins wrote: » I have several friends who are in a right panic because they seriously think this is all a plot to restrict their freedom on the net and Whatsapp.
Ulysses Gaze wrote: » Which it partly is.....
CoolHandBandit wrote: » Whatapp and the like are a disaster for the intelligence services. Pretty worrying tbh.
Kermit.de.frog wrote: » I take it the people here advocating restrictions on Muslim immigration would have had no problem with severe restrictions on Irish immigration to the UK when the halfwits in the IRA were planting bombs?
Nody wrote: » Care to quote the number of people dead in Europe on 9/11 or are you claiming that it happened in Europe? Because last time I checked the question was about attacks in EUROPE which I hope you can find on a map and then look at where New York is located by comparison.
BoatMad wrote: » what does that matter, somehow "our" terrorists are nicer then their " terrorists " compartmentalisation at its best here
RustyNut wrote: » The provos hit germany.Ira Osnabrück GermanyIra Rheindahlen Germany
BoatMad wrote: » You have to understand that radicalised muslims see the " west" as the issue. The call by the jihadists to radicals in Europe was not specific , it just mentioned using ordinary things to cause harm ( and specially mentioned vehicles ) what you are then seeing is those European Muslims who have been radicalised by what they see and experience in the ME, reacting thats all , its not that thought out, its a form of visceral reaction, its not centrally co-ordinated etc
biko wrote: » Maybe but I'd rather have the risk of some terrorists using it than giving up my privacy altogether.
biko wrote: » It shows clearly that the attack was premeditated and that he was not a lone attacker with temporary insanity. Most of us with more than two brain-cells to rub together knew this was going to happen since Taimour Abdulwahab tried blowing people up on Queen street in 2010. It was just a question of when and how. Swedish PM Stefan Löfven can **** right off. Him and the previous PM Fredrik Reinfeldt is in large part to blame for every death and rape at immigrants hands. Reinfeldt probably more than Löfven.
