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Eir rural FTTH thread

rob808

I made this thread for people on eir rural blue line FTTH please keep here and don't post in Eircom FTTH 66 towns 1 Gb thread about rural FTTH rollout.

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Pangea

long_b wrote: »

Can't see why it wouldn't work. The router supplied by Eir will have probably 4 Ethernet ports. What's not to work ?
Apparently the Cat5e will even do 1Gb speeds if that's what you go for

Thanks, I read on here somewhere that for ffth it has to be direct link from router and that daisy chain doesn't work with it so I wasnt sure would it affect me or not.

Jpmarn

The fibre cables in the Pallasgreen Co. Limerick area is quite widespread. They have more or less yet to install splice boxes.

ACLFC7

trivial question but how can I load the latest version of Open Eir's FTTH map? http://fibrerollout.ie/where-and-when/
The only way I can see the updated data is if I go into "incognito mode" on Chrome.

I've tried clearing cookies but it hasn't worked.

ED E

ACLFC7 wrote: »

trivial question but how can I load the latest version of Open Eir's FTTH map? http://fibrerollout.ie/where-and-when/
The only way I can see the updated data is if I go into "incognito mode" on Chrome.

I've tried clearing cookies but it hasn't worked.

You'll need to clear the cache not the cookies. A Ctrl-R should override the cache.

ACLFC7

ED E wrote: »

You'll need to clear the cache not the cookies. A Ctrl-R should override the cache.

You were right about the cache, but Ctrl-R didn't work for me. I used Ctrl-f5 (instead of just f5 on its own). Thanks

ED E

Derp, ofc, Ctrl R is a regular refresh.

Johnboy1951

Pangea wrote: »

Thanks, I read on here somewhere that for ffth it has to be direct link from router and that daisy chain doesn't work with it so I wasnt sure would it affect me or not.

What you described was not a 'daisy-chain'.

If each room/connection goes directly to the router (even via a couple of wall plates) then all is ok.

damienirel

Gonzo wrote: »

I can't believe it I finally have it, I cant take any pictures till tomorrow have to head out again for the night, the room is in a mess but here is some quick speedtest and ping results for now.

Well at last! Wow some difference I'd say, you'll be ditching boards after this 4K streaming all the way lol! Mad to get back tonight to do a few more speed tests and feel smug!

long_b

We need a few townies or city dwellers on the thread complaining about their connections to add to the satisfaction

Radharc na Sleibhte

Hello. Longtime lurker here.
So FTTH was made available to us in last few weeks.
KN and EIR vans all over the place.
EIR rep calls to the door today and signed the wife up to 150mb €55 broadband only package.
Told the rep we had no phone line or anything installed as it's a relatively new house, so I'm wondering, physically how do we connect? We have an ESB pole in at the bottom of the garden and wire is ducted up the hill to the house from that. Will they use that?

Pangea

Johnboy1951 wrote: »

What you described was not a 'daisy-chain'.

If each room/connection goes directly to the router (even via a couple of wall plates) then all is ok.

Thanks for confirming, Glad to hear

[Deleted User]

Radharc na Sleibhte wrote: »

Hello. Longtime lurker here.
So FTTH was made available to us in last few weeks.
KN and EIR vans all over the place.
EIR rep calls to the door today and signed the wife up to 150mb â‚¬55 broadband only package.
Told the rep we had no phone line or anything installed as it's a relatively new house, so I'm wondering, physically how do we connect? We have an ESB pole in at the bottom of the garden and wire is ducted up the hill to the house from that. Will they use that?

They will not use the ESB pole, that's for sure, so it's likely that they'll install a new phone pole and run overhead from that. That is unless you have a phone duct elsewhere.

Johnboy1951

it's a relatively new house

All relatively new houses in this area have both a USB duct and also a duct for telephone connection, so you might check to see if that is available to you.

Radharc na Sleibhte

Johnboy1951 wrote: »

All relatively new houses in this area have both a USB duct and also a duct for telephone connection, so you might check to see if that is available to you.

Thanks!
You know, I think there is. Now that you have said that you have actually triggered a memory in my head, we have a red pipe next to the house that I'm pretty sure builder said he left for that purpose (self build 10 years ago).

2 stupid newb questions then though.
1/ where is the other end?
2/ how do they feed the wire through?

Johnboy1951

Radharc na Sleibhte wrote: »

Thanks!
You know, I think there is. Now that you have said that you have actually triggered a memory in my head, we have a red pipe next to the house that I'm pretty sure builder said he left for that purpose (self build 10 years ago).

2 stupid newb questions then though.
1/ where is the other end?
2/ how do they feed the wire through?

Ask the builder ..... or go digging?
Is there a telephone line close by? If so he might have brought it close to that or close to a duct for telephone.
Usually to the boundary of the site.
But of course builders did not always do the best thing - often doing the minimum they thought they might 'get away with'.

There are several methods to get a wire through ...... not a problem if the duct is clear, not collapsed and has no sharp bends. It probably wont because bends cost extra

long_b

Somewhat ridiculous question - has anyone been installed BEFORE the go line date on the "where and when" map?

Radharc na Sleibhte

Johnboy1951 wrote: »

Ask the builder ..... or go digging?
Is there a telephone line close by? If so he might have brought it close to that or close to a duct for telephone.
Usually to the boundary of the site.
But of course builders did not always do the best thing - often doing the minimum they thought they might 'get away with'.

There are several methods to get a wire through ...... not a problem if the duct is clear, not collapsed and has no sharp bends. It probably wont because bends cost extra

Thanks for the info!
Think the duct looks as if it just goes from foot path into the house! Builder is gone bust of course.
Ah it'll be grand. I'm just all excited now.
Two days ago I thought I had to wait til September. I have 50mb. I just wants me super fast broadband now. Don't care if they have to put telephone pole at the front door tbh

Radharc na Sleibhte

long_b wrote: »

Somewhat ridiculous question - has anyone been installed BEFORE the go line date on the "where and when" map?

Yea we were. Can't say exactly cos map is updated now but we weren't due to be live until autumn 2017 or 2018 at least.

Edit: ie we havent been installed , yet, but the possible installation has jumped forward 6/12 months

Johnboy1951

Radharc na Sleibhte wrote: »

Thanks for the info!
Think the duct looks as if it just goes from foot path into the house! Builder is gone bust of course.
Ah it'll be grand. I'm just all excited now.
Two days ago I thought I had to wait til September. I have 50mb. I just wants me super fast broadband now. Don't care if they have to put telephone pole at the front door tbh

I forgot to mention ...... often builders dig one channel and put both ESB and telephone ducting in side by side, so that might give you some indication where it is.

The big (to my mind) thing is the termination at the house.
Most seem to be brought into the cavity but what happens then if unused I don't know. In the best of cases a second wall box would be in position with the telephone duct in it.

If you can use the ducting that would be ideal IMO, even if some arrangement had to be put in place to get into it at the boundary. (Assuming the other end is usable of course

)

I would go dig it out for you if you could give me your 50Mb/s when you get fibred!

Jealous!

RoYoBo

Johnboy1951 wrote: »

I forgot to mention ...... often builders dig

I would go dig it out for you if you could give me your 50Mb/s when you get fibred!

Jealous!

Haha, snap! We could share that 50. 3.5 here and even 25 seems like a dream!

The Cush

Radharc na Sleibhte wrote: »

Think the duct looks as if it just goes from foot path into the house! Builder is gone bust of course.

In recent years around here the builders installed an ETU box (External Terminating Unit) close to the meter box where the ducting ends. I know it wasn't done in all cases

iioklo

Radharc na Sleibhte wrote: »

Thanks!
You know, I think there is. Now that you have said that you have actually triggered a memory in my head, we have a red pipe next to the house that I'm pretty sure builder said he left for that purpose (self build 10 years ago).

I thought RED ducting was for ESB only. and It's usually black ducting used for phone connections.

The black ducting is run from a small external box built into exterior wall, usually sited below ESB meter box, and it will run out to a manhole in footpath or street might not be ouside your house as a group of house's connections will all run into one manhole.

The Fiber Splitter box will be located in the manhole. And your FTTH conection will be made here.

Gonzo

I haven't been home much recently, so haven't really had a chance to play with my new connection, it wasn't supposed to be installed till Tuesday but KN rang me when I was away and installed the fibre yesterday morning while I was away.

The KN enginner was supplied with the wrong splitter box code, but he proceeded anyway to install from 300 meters away instead of the pole opposite my front gate, very sound of him.

He rang me when he arrived at the house and I told him I would like if the install could take place at the front of the house in a room where I have my computers.

I had 2 wall sockets in the room and had everything disconnected so that he would use these wall sockets.

When I got home, I found that he wired the fibre along 4 poles to get to my house and then across to the roof and down around the edge of the house till he got to the window of the room. He trailed the fibre down under the window, and borrowed a hole bringing the fibre into the room from the outside and installed 2 new wall sockets, rather than using the 2 existing ones.

The white units are installed on the wall inside the room and the modem is balancing on the edge of a table, I have to rearrange everything in the room today so it's a bit of a mess, but worth it for having such a great connection at long last!.

I have attached some images showing the fibre as it connects to the roof and makes its way around to the window and into the room itself.

I will be reorganizing everything in the room as where the fibre equipment is located is where my tables and furniture used to be.

Gonzo

when I got home yesterday for a few hours, I first booted up my computer and couldn't wait to do a speedtest. The first thing I noticed was how slow and unresponsive the connection was, felt like dial up, I thought something terrible was wrong and this was my first speedtest result.

Then a few minutes later:

This was by wifi, beside the router. Engineer was next door doing another install so I walked over to him and he said the connection may need a few minutes to an hour to settle down after I power it up for the first time.

Came back, wifi was getting faster, then I found an old ethernet cable which was longer than the very short cable provided, connected to it and bingo was getting full speed

The thing that amazes me the most is the ping, it's so low. Could be to do wiht the fact that I have a very short ethernet run from the modem to the computer.

I then tested download speed and getting almost 36MB/Sec. I downloaded Starcraft (over 30 gigs) in about 5/6 minutes, previously this would take me 8 to 10 hours.

I am over the moon with this connection. I have yet to set it up on my ps4, tv and laptops. Now that I have this, there is no going back to what I had before.

I've just had a look at the open eir map and there is a serious amount of progress being made now to the rollout with a very substantial amount of live exchanges happening in May, exciting times ahead for many people.

I am looking forward to watching everyone else get their connection, particularly those who currently have no choice but to go with Imagine LTE, I'd like to see these guys getting connected and ditching Imagine for something far superior.

Gonzo

just performing a few more speedtests:

Ireland

United Kingdom

Europe

United States

Radharc na Sleibhte

The Cush wrote: »

In recent years around here the builders installed an ETU box (External Terminating Unit) close to the meter box where the ducting ends. I know it wasn't done in all cases

This is what we have outside house. We are about 30 metres from the road up a hill.

tsue921i8wljb3

Radharc na Sleibhte wrote: »

This is what we have outside house. We are about 30 metres from the road up a hill.

The small box looks like the ETU. You could maybe open it with a needle nose pliers and check to see is that red ducting coming from it.

If it is the red duct appears to end just past the path. It also is nowhere near deep enough. It is liable to be driven over there. The installer is not going to run ducting for you.

Are you in an urban or rural area? Where is the nearest telephone pole to your premises? Can you post a picture of the nearest pole?

iioklo

Radharc na Sleibhte wrote: »

This is what we have outside house. We are about 30 metres from the road up a hill.

The small box bellow the ESB box is for Phone connection, I see the red pipe it's just a short length used so that the concrete footpath could be layed. You need a roll of black ducting to connect into this and then be brought to nearest telecom pole or manhole. I see your street is still gravel so digging this to bury the ducting wont be to difficult. but it's when you get out to public road/footpath you probably need permit from council.

I see a cable coming down along downpipe is this phone or tv/satelite.
Do you currently have a phone line. Is it comming in via a pole. this is more than likely the way that your FTTH will be delivered.

Radharc na Sleibhte

iioklo wrote: »

The small box bellow the ESB box is for Phone connection, I see the red pipe it's just a short length used so that the concrete footpath could be layed. You need a roll of black ducting to connect into this and then be brought to nearest telecom pole or manhole. I see your street is still gravel so digging this to bury the ducting wont be to difficult. but it's when you get out to public road/footpath you probably need permit from council.

I see a cable coming down along downpipe is this phone or tv/satelite.
Do you currently have a phone line. Is it comming in via a pole. this is more than likely the way that your FTTH will be delivered.

Yeah it's a one off house in the country side. You can't fit a car where it is.
That cable is our current broadband. No phone line at the moment so no pole. Will they install one to install the broadband?

iioklo

Radharc na Sleibhte wrote: »

That cable is our current broadband. No phone line at the moment so no pole. Will they install one to install the broadband?

Someone posting in this thread had a pole installed at the end of their garden, and the fiber was brought to here and then to the house. Is there a pole with a black box with cable rolledup behind it near your house, it might be at the next or pervious house on your road.

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