Gary Gurny wrote: » I think we should play a dummy team. Let the under 21s tog out in preparation for their all ireland semi altogether, dont see the point in revealing our tactics this early in the year. Better off keeping your cards held firmly to your chest at this time of the year and peaking for the autumn IMO.
homerjay2005 wrote: » anybody willing to have a go at picking the starting 15 for the first round of the championship? the departures of Gooch, Marc and Aidan shows just exactly how much of a rebuilding operation is ahead of us in the next 12-36 months.
BonnieSituation wrote: » In fairness the last time ye were "rebuilding" ye won an All-Ireland.
corny wrote: Why Cooper and Brogan? Why the comparison?
DDC1990 wrote: » Another poster in a different thread used Brogans better scoring aveage as a stick to beat Cooper with essentially saying he was overrated. That sparked off the debate AFAIK. Looking agead to the match, any word on the injuries? Any chance of JOD, Enright or Young returning. Donaghy at the edge of the square?
keane2097 wrote: None of them
Mr. Incognito wrote: CONCLUSION While an argument can be made on purely statistical analysis that they are comparable I really don't think they are. Brogan scored. He was a beast at scoring and he did it well for a few seasons. However it didn't make Dublin competitive until other scoring players came around. You couldn'tt build a team around him. Gooch by contrast made everyone around him better and got man of the match in 2011 in the Munster final against Cork despite not scoring from play along with keeping the scoring board ticking over. I don'tt believe that Gooch's contribution will ever be matched but of course I am biased.
Nidgeweasel wrote: » He was no Peter Canavan.
homerjay2005 wrote: » yes but this is completely different now - back then, all the lads coming in were 22-24, now our latest crop are 19 and 20, theres a big different in terms of maturity. i think it will be another 2-3 years before we begin to see the rewards from the recent underage success.
Stoner wrote: » In all fairness this is a bit off. There were fantastic footballers on that kerry team. Star was a great partner for Gooch winning the ball he couldn't and feeding him. I agree that Gooch is a better forward but not the argument that a team was built around him, he had Galvin directing things, remember when he was the best player in the country and people use to say that when he played well Kerry played well. Darragh O'Se , Mark and Thomas O'Shea, Galvin, Star all providing the muscle and winning the dirty ball. Declan and Darren and Bryan Sheehan to help with the scoring. It was a great team with fantastic players to say that Gooch made that team is BS IMO. I don't expect anyone to agree with me here but some of the best defenders and possibly the best ball winning no 14 of all time were there to support Gooch. This argument if you like it or not is the same as that old "luxury player" debate that was going around years ago.
BonnieSituation wrote: » Anyway, even being in the long grass [this thread] is odd in the 3 days before a game. What's the feeling from our esteemed rivals about how Sunday is gonna pan out? I'm hearing a lot about dour, niggly etc elsewhere about the place. I think it'll be similar to the AISF last year. These games are a different beast in Croker.
keane2097 wrote: » Same as it has been when the two teams have met for the last couple of years - expect Dublin to win because they are a bit better than Kerry and have a much more well oiled system of play. Kerry can win if something strange happens or if Dublin are a little bit off it, but it's like a 20-30% chance. I'm not sure what sort of result would drive me mad if any. Would be great to see Kerry win but would be completely irrelevant if not repeated in Championship, would be reasonably happy with showing we can compete via a narrow loss, would secretly wonder if Dublin can avoid getting complacent forever (with an eye to later in the year) if they win heavily.
Same As wrote: 1. Brendan Kealy Kilcummin 2. Fionn Fitzgerald (C) Dr Crokes 3. Mark Griffin St Michaels-Foilmore 4. Ronan Shanahan Austin Stacks 5. Peter Crowley Laune Rangers 6. Tadhg Morley Templenoe 7. Paul Murphy Rathmore 8. David Moran Kerins O'Rahillys 9. Anthony Maher Duagh 10. Jonathan Lyne Killarney Legion 11. Michael Geaney Dingle 12. Donnchadh Walsh Cromane 13. Kevin McCarthy Kilcummin 14. Paul Geaney Dingle 15. Stephen O'Brien Kenmare
DDC1990 wrote: » Happy enough with this considering our injuries. 4 hard working forwards is the way to go against the Dubs. Loving our number 26. Mind games central. It should be a tight enough game. Hoepfully finishing with Savage, Barry, Spillane and Darren will keep us strong through 70/75 mins. Pity the Dubs will be calling on Brogan, Connolly, McManamon, O'Sullivan and McAuley!
