biko wrote: » I do go for drinks after work occasionally, just not with co-workers. Instead I go with IRL friends.
dotsman wrote: » Well, clearly you lead a very different life (and work environment) to me. Why do I think you are miserable in your job? Because the work life you describe sounds very miserable to me, and the language you use to describe it certainly implies that you find it miserable as well "to work with people who you have absolutely nothing in common with, some whom you downright despise and others who have odd and weird methods of interacting with others or poor hygiene etc but for the sake of peace you have to get on with it" "Finding one, maybe two people who you like is a pleasant surprise" "I must work as a team" "you bite your tongue" etc For me, my work is one of my hobbies. It is something I enjoy (and if/when I don't, it's time to move on). I'm not going to waste a huge part of my life doing something I don't enjoy with people I don't enjoy spending time with. As an example, I left a job over a year ago now and still regularly meet up with my ex colleagues for nights out (maybe about once every 2 months), and hopefully will for years to come. Friday nights are about unwinding after the week. They are about finding out that you do, in fact, have a lot in common with your colleagues. They are about laughing at the problems you faced during the week and the problems you expect to face in the coming week. They are about talking about non-work related things. They are about meeting new people who work on other teams. They are about resolving office conflicts in a fun, friendly way. They are about catching up with people who you used to work closely with on a previous project. They are about talking to teammates about private, intimate things happening in your/their lives. They are about exploring possibilities for career advancement. They are about meeting new people. They are about forging relationships with people you may some day end up working with. They are about talking to people from other teams and discovering interesting things that they are doing. They are about hooking up with someone from the office. They are about interacting with more senior members of the organisation in a non-formal setting. But most of all, they are simply about having fun. I just cannot comprehend how anyone has a problem with that. Oh, and P.S., in all my Friday nights out with work colleagues, I have never heard anybody exclaim how much of a "legend" they are (or anything to that effect)
Wanderer2010 wrote: » Id imagine you are in your early to mid 20s going by some of your statements above?
Wanderer2010 wrote: » You seem to think that nights out and drinking and socializing can only exclusively be done with people you work with.
Wanderer2010 wrote: » Have you any children?
Wanderer2010 wrote: » A mortgage?
Wanderer2010 wrote: » A dog to look after?
Wanderer2010 wrote: » Trust me, Friday nights are for a million things besides spending time with your workmates, whether you get on with them or not.
Wanderer2010 wrote: » My statements reflect real life by the way.
Wanderer2010 wrote: » Yes, you are lucky that you seem to have a lot of mates in work and you seem to make work your sole point of socializing but work may not always be like that and its not healthy to base so much of your life around it.
Wanderer2010 wrote: » What if your mates move on/mature/want to stop drinking.
Wanderer2010 wrote: » What if you get a new boss you hate but nobody agrees with you and you have nobody to vent to? It might be worth having friends outside of work as well.
dotsman wrote: » Nope (not sure of relevance of last few questions). Yes, kids have a negative impact on social life, but you cut down, you don't just stop socialising. You still need to have a life outside your kids.
dotsman wrote: » That's why nobody goes out every Friday night, but you should be socialising with your colleagues regularly (target once a month, depending on circumstances, you may only get out once every two months).
Electric Sheep wrote: » In my experience, kids don't have a negative impact on social life, social life just changes - for most people it no longer revolves around the pub. It concentrates more on socializing as a family, rather than the man being down the pub with his workmates while his wife holds the fort at home. You know, visiting with other families in their homes, having dinner or a barbecue. Attending family friendly events. Attending their kids' sports events. Getting a babysitter and going out together as a couple.
Wanderer2010 wrote: » What would be considered an "active" social life for a 30 something though? Theres a lot of one size fits all stereotypes in this thread.
Sunny Disposition wrote: » Wanderer2010 wrote: » What would be considered an "active" social life for a 30 something though? Theres a lot of one size fits all stereotypes in this thread. I'd say very few 30 somethings in relationships go to pubs on a regular basis, but people who are single probably would. Even if you are single the hangovers are going to be much more vicious than in your 20s so I think very few people in that boat are going to head out for a drink more than once a week.
Electric Sheep wrote: » Or, you know, mature people can go out for dinner and a couple of drinks without getting hammered.
Paula Bewildered Yardage wrote: » For me (early 30's) I'd have a proper night out basically every week, sometimes two (usually with the work crowd or the friends back home when I head home). Regular impromptu couple of midweek pints after work etc. Out for dinner at least once a week, regular cinema visits, weekends away etc.
__Alex__ wrote: You'd be very lucky to keep up a social life to that extent post-children. And it's nothing to do with being whipped.
Sunny Disposition wrote: » Even if you are single the hangovers are going to be much more vicious than in your 20s so I think very few people in that boat are going to head out for a drink more than once a week.
Paula Bewildered Yardage wrote: » Only men who allow it happen don't get out to the pub regularly after having kids. I know people who disappear and I know people who are still out fairly regularly even with kids, I'd consider kids having a negative impact if you fall into the first category. Man out Friday night, woman out sat night etc and that sort of thing is fine if you don't want always dropping to the grandparents/getting a baby sitter at weekends.I have to say its a depressing picture having the above as your main social life* and I certainly don't intend on giving up fairly regular nights out with work/other friends when kids come, its the sort of thing that ends up with people resenting their choices etc. *Just to clarify the events you described are fine, enjoyable and part of everyones life but I would not consider them a replacement for an active social life.
__Alex__ wrote: » Oh, I don't need to get hammered to be hungover, a few drinks'll do it.
Sunny Disposition wrote: » I'd say very few 30 somethings in relationships go to pubs on a regular basis, but people who are single probably would. Even if you are single the hangovers are going to be much more vicious than in your 20s so I think very few people in that boat are going to head out for a drink more than once a week.
__Alex__ wrote: » You'd be very lucky to keep up a social life to that extent post-children. And it's nothing to do with being whipped.
A Shaved Duck? wrote: » You are in for a shock.
Paula Bewildered Yardage wrote: » As I said I know a number of people who still get out fairly regularly after having kids, maybe not as often and not last minute decisions but still out. On the other hand some people just disappear. It's a choice imo (or being whipped).