professore wrote: » I'm not saying people who are having difficulties getting on with life are somehow flawed - not at all. Quite the opposite. Everyone deals with bereavement in different ways However making some self serving documentary portraying yourself as this kind sensitive soul is a bit sickening tbh. I can imagine if i was married to a serial cheater and then i die and she makes a film about how much she loved me and what a great mum she is I'd be disgusted (from heaven of course).
professore wrote: » Well to me a single mother is a woman who never had a long term partner. Not someone who was abandoned after years. We are talking about two different things.
nacho libre wrote: » Unfortunately, not everyone is as stoic and resilient as you are, they are not able to just get on with it. If having someone high profile, who in some cases the viewers look up to, do a tv documentary like this helps them with their own bereavement, then i see it as a good thing- even if he is doing it for self- serving reasons.
neonsofa wrote: » But you outlined that in most cases they choose to have sex and they know the consequences of having sex and the responsibility of contraception and option of abortion. Why bother mentioning this if you aren't implying that in most cases this is applicable. The cases I mentioned aren't just a select few, issues of contraception and abortion don't apply there as their children were planned. They weren't just an unfortunate consequence of sex.
AnneFrank wrote: » Make sure you don't fall off that high horse because life is that black and white.
murpho999 wrote: » What utter rubbish. Hope you didn't fall out of your ivory tower typing that?
professore wrote: » No one is going to make a TV show about me or Boaty or the thousands of others up and down the country to help us grieve. Nor would I want that. It would feel like I was making money out of someone else's death and showing what a "great man" I was.
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professore wrote: » I never said the majority. I said some. And I clarified the cases you talk about too.
Theboinkmaster wrote: » Don't have much sympathy for him TBH, millions more men deserve it much more - cynical marketing campaign. A real man does not cheat on his wife. If you're a famous footballer with women throwing themselves at you and you want to shag them all senseless then don't get married and certainly don't have children. A real man doesn't watch his wife try to get pregnant, suffer miscarriages, carry a baby for 9months and all that entails (including losing their figures), giving birth (which can be traumatic), breastfeed and wake up every 2 hours for months, try to get her figure back by dieting and extreme exercise, whilst trying to bring up a baby and hold family and house together, and then shag 10 women behind her back. What a scumbag. And countless studies have shown the most important thing you can give your children and what's the biggest influence on them growing up, isn't to keep them safe, isn't self esteem, but a healthy relationship between mother & father. A real man demonstrates that by his actions towards his wife and Rio's kids no doubt will find out from the internet/kids at school what happened and I can't see how that won't impact them some way. Fvck him.
AnneFrank wrote: » i really can't believe the ridiculous comments in here about rio's supposed countless affairs, did you not see her parents on the show and how much they love and admire Rio. But of course you all know his personal life better than they do and are free to judge a man who has lost everything and is doing his best to be there for his kids. You are all missing the point of this show, it's helping him grieve, and helping others in the same situation watching the show. Have you not read Mr Mcboatfaces heart wrenching and brave post on the previous page. this narrow minded view of the millennials generation is unreal, life is tough and full of mistakes
neonsofa wrote: » Two people decided to have sex. Two people knew the consequences. And two people are legally obliged to contribute. And it's a bit late for contraception and abortion when the baby has arrived and then the father ups and leaves. Sometimes after years. After building a life together and having multiple children in some cases. Many single parents did not enter into parenthood alone. Many do so with a supposedly supportive partner. The fact that you assume the majority are a result of an unplanned pregnancy, or multiple unplanned pregnancies, is disappointing tbh.
fergiesfolly wrote: » Would you trust someone who made a promise and then broke it? Put it another way.. Let's say, someone signed a business contract with you and then broke it, for no reason, would you rely on them in the future, or go elsewhere?
murpho999 wrote: » Either way , it doesn't mean he's not suffering and grieving now.
murpho999 wrote: » I saw the program last night and found it interesting and sad. I also liked how the kids’ identification was protected. Ferdinand came across more concerned about how this was impacting his kids rather than himself. Regarding how he cheated on his wife, which I am not condoning, but I don’t think he should be judged solely on that and it does not mean that he did not love his wife. The lifestyle of a top level professional footballer is no ordinary one and I would not be surprised if many of them play away from home (See what I did there!) but would still regard themselves as having very solid marriages. From my own experiences , I know when my own mother died, that my father was absolutely remorse with grief even though in my experience he wasn’t really the nicest or most loving husband to her when she was alive but he really suffered when she passed away and still misses her terribly after over 5 years. So I’m sure Rio is genuinely suffering and his intentions of the show were good. Of course people will just be cynical and black and white about it.
murpho999 wrote: » Why being so judgmental and why bring his children into it? I'm sure he wasn't being unfaithful in their presence. Truth is no body knows what went on in their private life so why speculate? Either way , it doesn't mean he's not suffering and grieving now.
Dravokivich wrote: » No it doesn't. It just means something undisclosed between those 2 parties didn't work. Whether or not a vow is involved and disregarded does not make one untrustworthy. Otherwise all of us who made "vows" during our confirmation would be just as questionable of character. I also still don't see how that can impact or should be expected to impact ones ability to be a parent, or positively influential for others, by other means.
fergiesfolly wrote: » If you've made a commitment and vowed to keep it and then break that vow, it shows you to be untrustworthy . If you do it repeatedly, it shows you to lack respect for your partner and be of low moral standard. Any parent(man or woman) should want to set a standard for their children that makes them as decent a human being as possible. And should also be able lead by example I, like all here, have no idea of the relationship that Ferdinand had with his wife It may have been an open marriage and she may well have been happy to carry on with other women as long as he came home to her. I'd have no idea why she would and I would regard it as showing his wife scant respect, but every relationship has its own perameters. But it really doesn't set a great example for his children
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