political analyst wrote: » You cannot have paid the licence fee if you're not a resident of the Republic. If a programme is made available on the Player and it's available there for a relatively long period, you can watch it when you come back from your holidays (if you are a resident of the Republic).
elperello wrote: » Sorry I wasn't clear there. What I mean is that if you can't access the Player anywhere you like if you have paid the licence it just goes against the whole concept of the World Wide Web.
elperello wrote: » Yes, that's the current set up for a "broadcast receiving apparatus". I was thinking of a scenario where dad is at home accessing the Player on his laptop, mum is at the holiday home watching the Player on the tablet and one of the kids decides to check out a match on his phone in the pub. They have a licence at home will they be legal?
Johnboy1951 wrote: » yes ..... but the present licence is for the premises, so that would need to be changed to allow it. For instance if you have a holiday home and bring a TV to it for the hols, then that premises needs a separate licence to the licence for the main dwelling.
Johnboy1951 wrote: » no idea what you mean
elperello wrote: » So RTE plan to break the internet!
Johnboy1951 wrote: » The licence covers the premises for which it is issued, and also I believe the stream is geo-locked.
elperello wrote: » Probably just a kite flying exercise. The North as you point out would be difficult to sort out. Also how many devices could log into the Player at one time from the same licence? Could kids away in college use the number from home? What would happen if you are away on holiday?
Johnboy1951 wrote: » What about those who do not required a licence due to disability or age? Do they have a licence number to put in?
political analyst wrote: » http://www.thejournal.ie/tv-licence-3322048-Apr2017/ PEOPLE MAY HAVE to input a TV licence number into the RTÉ Player if they want to access programmes in the near future. The government is exploring options to increase the rate of compliance and, therefore revenue, from the TV licence. It is currently examining a system used by the BBC in the UK. I assume that would mean viewers in Northern Ireland would have to pay a subscription for access to the RTÉ Player, right?! After all, it wouldn't be fair if people outside the Republic could access the Player free of charge while residents of the Republic would have to have a TV licence to access the Player.
PEOPLE MAY HAVE to input a TV licence number into the RTÉ Player if they want to access programmes in the near future. The government is exploring options to increase the rate of compliance and, therefore revenue, from the TV licence. It is currently examining a system used by the BBC in the UK.
PEOPLE MAY HAVE to input a TV licence number into the RTÉ Player if they want to access programmes in the near future. The government is exploring options to increase the rate of compliance and, therefore revenue, from the TV licence. It is currently examining a system used by the BBC in the UK.
bmwguy wrote: Water charges, uproar and anarchy because social welfare recipients had to pay them too. This is not opinion, this is not winding up or trolling, this is true.
Elmo wrote: » BAI and ComReg should regulate increases in the fee. It should be part of all telecoms bill/top ups. - Telecoms have no requirements for content unlike broadcasters - it could be used for the levy that the BAI receive from broadcasters - it could reduce the need for TG4 to have exchequer funding - it could have no government/political involvement with both regulators setting the amount to be collected - it would be a minuscule addition to broadband and phone bills. - it would completely reduce the amount paid for collection - it would always be paid, no court cases, no non-payees, no fines - everyone pays
Sam Russell wrote: » The main reason for keeping the licence fee (or whatever it might be called) is to remove it from political interference. This is only partially successful as politicians have refused to increase it and have hived off bits to try and control RTE. (Think of Ray Burke for one). It should be indexed in some way, but RTE should be under some sort of public scrutiny to stop them paying themselves silly amounts, and being judged by the public on their performance.
Johnboy1951 wrote: » IMO, there are very few overpaid persons in RTÉ.
The Parish Priest. wrote: » Following the very successful campaign against water charges, why not a similar campaign against the tv licence ? which btw costs the exact same amount as the Alan Kelly water charges . Funnily enough the only two parties who ever wanted to abolish the tv licence were the Pds and Renua
Deleted User wrote: » I wasn't badgering you. I was just pointing out over a fifth of the price of a TV or laptop already goes to the government. If RTE is so important why not take the money from the tax take. When I lived abroad(Central Europe), when I got paid there were a number of taxes and charges taken from my gross amount due to fund various things. Included were the city tax which paid for waste removal. I didn't need to pay extra for bin collection, and I didnt need a TV license, or the host of other things which you need in Ireland. It was taken out of the tax I owed. I'd be all in favour of a similar model here. A few years ago it was revealed that it cost more to charge for dog licenses than the dog license brought in. It currently costs about 40million to get the TV license. It supposedly brings in 160 million. Minus the 40M it takes to get it, it is a 'profit' of 120 M. Add a tenner to everyones tax deductions and with 1Million workers in Ireland you will make the same amount. Why is that an unpopular opinion? Well doing so would mean laying off about 200 License inspectors, and another 200 admin staff. It would remove revenue from An Post who are also struggling at the minute. However its a sensible suggestion if you are in the market for a sensible suggestion as a replacement for the license fee. In reality theres no need for additional licenses, fees, bin tags, etc. Just take it from the regular tax take. Sorry, didnt mean to write a novel on the subject.
Johnboy1951 wrote: » I am not ignoring the VAT. I suggested a supplementary tax might be added to specified devices and the money collected from that be used in place of the licence fee. Unfortunately it is likely that the amounts involved might be too large on some devices. For instance one could say a TV has a useful life of 5 to 10 years, so how much would need to be added to its cost to compensate for the lack of a licence fee? Probably too much. I still don't like the idea of adding an amount equal to the licence fee to electricity bills.
Deleted User wrote: » "tax the devices at point of sale." I assume you are ignoring the 23% VAT you pay when you buy a TV, a laptop, a computer or lots of other things in Ireland. The last laptop I bought cost 950 euro, 210 of which was VAT. Why doesnt Naughten call a spade a spade and say "We can't be trusted to ring fence money from general taxation to pay for RTE and so are coming up with additional ways to fund it, like this proposed broadcast tax".
Elmo wrote: » Look I have no problem with the financial issue that RTÉ face nor the licence fee. These are things that can't be fixed by RTÉ. RTÉ have to live with this issues. And you know I am the first to point to all of these aspect that RTÉ have to pay for. and I could Continue:- 8. The Sound and Vision Fund 9. A portion of the Licence fee to TG4 on top of providing News to TG4. 10. The music groups 11. A portion of the Licence fee to the Oireachtas so that the Oireachtas can be carried on Soarview. But then I think that most of the RTÉ Management are earning 14grand a month, they know that neither RTÉ ONE or 2 ever needs a repeat in prime time. They insist on cutting the news in August, no news on RTÉ2, pushing their own Arts programmes to after 11pm (The Works, Other Voices and Choice Music Awards). Indeed the Sunday Business Post stated on Sunday that employees feel no connection to RTÉ2, imagine how the audience feels.
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