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Tyrone GAA Discussion Thread

JB81

Hi All

Just wondering what people think of the obvious changes that are taking place in the Tyrone set up and how it bodes for the future.
Taking into the account the retirement of double All-Ireland winner Kevin 'Hub' Hughes this week to add to Enda MCGinley, Brian Dooher, Philip Jordan, Ciaran Gourley & Brian McGuigan.

Take these out of the fantastic Triple All-Ireland winning squad and you would be forgiven for thinking its the end of the road. However they have still won and competed well in Minor and U-21 All Ireland in the last few years. so do people think that these youngsters coming in and with the likes of Stephen O'Neill, Owen Mulligan, Sean Kavanagh, Conor Gormley, Ricey McMenamim, McMahon brothers that Tyrone can rise once again?

JB

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Jayop

Should Donegal win then I hope Kerry get at least a point against us. We've nothing to play for and reading the tears in the mayo thread after a win they were gifted would be great to see them go down.

sliabh beagh

didnt i tell you back in august we are going backwards with harte in charge. so many good players ruined by him.

Jayop

sliabh beagh wrote: »

didnt i tell you back in august we are going backwards with harte in charge. so many good players ruined by him.

Harte can't make them kick the ball over the bar. He just can't pull another stevie out of his arse. We were excellent yesterday in general play and turning Mayo over. It's the kicking that's killing us.

sliabh beagh

wise up man. this defensive system is killing our decent forwards confidence. most of the lads on our team have forgotten how to kick a ball. mickey will be gone at the end of the year dont worry. ive never seen tyrone people at such a low ebb about football. most i know dont even go to games any more.

Jayop

sliabh beagh wrote: »

wise up man. this defensive system is killing our decent forwards confidence. most of the lads on our team have forgotten how to kick a ball. mickey will be gone at the end of the year dont worry. ive never seen tyrone people at such a low ebb about football. most i know dont even go to games any more.

We had over twenty wides and 12 points. There was loads of attacking play.

sliabh beagh

15 wides and 3 dropped short. if u thought yest was good attacking play then ur deluded.

Jayop

The build up play and movement on and off the ball was excellent. The only thing missing was the finishing.

But hey, I'm. Only giving my own view.

rrs

Tyrone create and score very few goals, unlike the top teams. Too much lateral passing further out the field.

glack

Jayop wrote: »

The build up play and movement on and off the ball was excellent. The only thing missing was the finishing.

But hey, I'm. Only giving my own view.

There was some poor finishing for sure but there was also a lot of poor shot selection. Lots of wides from difficult angles and taken when under a lot of pressure from the Mayo defense - often when a teammate was in a better position too. The ones dropped into the goalies hands towards the end of game weren't great either.

ammc

sliabh beagh wrote: »

wise up man. this defensive system is killing our decent forwards confidence. most of the lads on our team have forgotten how to kick a ball. mickey will be gone at the end of the year dont worry. ive never seen tyrone people at such a low ebb about football. most i know dont even go to games any more.

And if those 2 that dropped short by Colm Cavanagh and Peter Harte had of went over the bar and the goal chance that Conor Meyler missed from 5 metres out had of went in, then everyone would be talking about how terrible Mayo were. Mayo had 16 shots in the whole game of which they scored from 11 and still all the focus seems to be on Tyrone defensive play when they had 30 shots on the Mayo goal for which they only scored from 12.

Tyrone made the chances but didn't convert. 2 bad results and the haters have a field day. Things can also turn around very quickly, remember 2008. It's not the first time people have been calling for Mickey's head

Stoner

ammc wrote:

dropped short by Colm Cavanagh

That was a bad miss, it was an inspirational take and run, he'd more time to run it in I was sure he'd nailed it, it was a defining moment. Had it gone over I think Tyrone would have won, when it dropped short you kind of felt that Tyrone definitely left the scoring boots at home.

It looked like Mayo had to do a lot less to score

ammc

Stoner wrote: »

Tyrone definitely left the scoring boots at home.

Darren McCurry, while he scored 2, missed another 4. The ever reliable Mattie Donnelly missed 3. Conor Meyler had a great chance near the end of the second half from 25mtrs out and refused to take the shot on, probably because he missed 2 before that.

I don't think the majority of shot selection was poor but just poorly executed. On another day, they go over but not this day. Sludden is excellent at getting himself into good positions to either shoot or create and was badly missed in the second half but there were others on the pitch and they need to step up and make it count.

They may have a good look for them scoring boots because they'll need them down in Killarney unless those Kerry ones just want to box again and then sure we'll just take the gloves with us;)

Jayop

If Cavan beat Roscommon and Donegal beat Mayo I hope we don't win.

seligehgit

Jayop wrote: »

If Cavan beat Roscommon and Donegal beat Mayo I hope we don't win.

Ah don't be like that,we're not going to fall out over an auld league match.:)

ammc

Jayop wrote: »

If Cavan beat Roscommon and Donegal beat Mayo I hope we don't win.

Only because it's a handier spin to Breffni than Castlebar;)

Jayop

ammc wrote: »

Only because it's a handier spin to Breffni than Castlebar;)

Not for me lol.

Jayop

Lee Brennan scored 3-14 himself in a division one game last night against Strabane. Some scoring for one man.

Bonniedog

Apparently only one other player - McGoldrick in a Derry hurling club game equalled that with 23 points. There is legend that Michael Donnellan of Galway once scored 0 - 33. That would be almost impossible, even if he was on his own on the pitch with someone kicking ball out to him. One point every 100 seconds!

In a Dublin club hurling match in 2005, Dotsie O'Callaghan scored 3 - 10. His "marker" got some slagging for a while after!

Jayop

Aye I wouldn't like to have been the lad marking Brennan last night. You'll have nightmares about that for a while.

Bonniedog

Jayop wrote: »

Aye I wouldn't like to have been the lad marking Brennan last night. You'll have nightmares about that for a while.

That be a night for getting the litre of vodka out... or retiring!

Some scoring all the same. How does he do for Tyrone? Its what they've been missing since Mulligan and O'Neill hung boots up.

Jayop

Bonniedog wrote: »

That be a night for getting the litre of vodka out... or retiring!

Some scoring all the same. How does he do for Tyrone? Its what they've been missing since Mulligan and O'Neill hung boots up.

Not getting the start mostly for some reason. He's still u21s iirc and he's a very small fella but hopefully now he'll be starting games in Ulster. Hopefully Micky will gamble with him. He's supposed to be a lethal free taker too which is something we've sorely missed.

Bonniedog

Well I won't wish that on us! I doubt Harte has bought into all that nonsense about a player having to be 6' 4" and build **** brick sh1thouse to play? lots of great players would never have gotten a chance if that was the rule, including many of your own.

Jayop

Bonniedog wrote: »

Well I won't wish that on us! I doubt Harte has bought into all that nonsense about a player having to be 6' 4" and build **** brick sh1thouse to play? lots of great players would never have gotten a chance if that was the rule, including many of your own.

Totally, we're a small enough team now but generally very strong lads and I think that might be the issue. The lads who have been coming through are all well built.

Look at the great man that retired last week. If being built like a tank was a requirement the Gooch would never have got a game.

Bonniedog

I was Croke Park bar when Cork players came in for their meal last time they played Dublin in league. Fkn huge chaps, but they can hardly kick snow off a rope.

Canavan be in same league as Cooper. You can't legislate for skill, intelligence and bravery. That doesn't come in one sized box!

Jayop

The best teams all have a mixture don't they. For every couple of McGee's you need a McHugh

Jayop

Poor Big Joe didn't get a mention on here, even from me so before we line out this weekend I just want to acknowledge a brilliant career and one of the best all-rounders I've seen play the game.

Came into the panel just after we won in 2003 in what was a tough year for Tyrone football. He became a leader very quickly in a side that was full of leaders already. Played pretty much every position on the pitch and excelled everywhere.

2 All-Ireland senior (2005, 2008)
4 Ulster senior (2007, 2009, 2010, 2016)
1 Division 2 football league (2016)
1 All-Ireland minor (2001)
1 Ulster minor (2001)
2 Ulster U21 (2002, 2003)

Not a bad haul and while he won't be regarded as a GAA legend elsewhere he without doubt is for Tyrone. Thanks for the last 13 years (and before it).

BonnieSituation

Jayop wrote: »

Poor Big Joe didn't get a mention on here, even from me so before we line out this weekend I just want to acknowledge a brilliant career and one of the best all-rounders I've seen play the game.

Came into the panel just after we won in 2003 in what was a tough year for Tyrone football. He became a leader very quickly in a side that was full of leaders already. Played pretty much every position on the pitch and excelled everywhere.

2 All-Ireland senior (2005, 2008)
4 Ulster senior (2007, 2009, 2010, 2016)
1 Division 2 football league (2016)
1 All-Ireland minor (2001)
1 Ulster minor (2001)
2 Ulster U21 (2002, 2003)

Not a bad haul and while he won't be regarded as a GAA legend elsewhere he without doubt is for Tyrone. Thanks for the last 13 years (and before it).

An absolute legend in my eyes.

Jayop

Nice routine win for us yesterday. Had to listen to the first half on Rte but caught most of the second. Will go back and watch it in full later today.

Score sounded about what I expected and with a 5 point lead at half time sounds like Derry were as bad as expected.

Sean supposed to have played well and looking as fit as ever. Great to see.

BonnieSituation

Any word on Clones being confirmed for the Donegal match?

Nidgeweasel

Any word on Donnelly being banned for throwing slaps?