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Eir rural FTTH thread

rob808

I made this thread for people on eir rural blue line FTTH please keep here and don't post in Eircom FTTH 66 towns 1 Gb thread about rural FTTH rollout.

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tsue921i8wljb3

I've noticed there has been a small update as well.

Hackballscross (Louth) is live with 100 premises.

Curragh Camp (Kildare) is due live on the 19th of April.

plodder

Gonzo wrote: »

they must have got sick of us calling them blue lines now we can refer to them as the yellow lines:)

maybe it's for visibility, the yellow is easier to spot over the green background.

edit: seems a bit buggy, the lines disappear when you zoom in

I've always used the map view and the yellow is harder to see now. Maybe I'll call and ask them to change it back.

Joking of course, though the text below the map still refers to blue lines. No other change here.

Johnboy1951

It would have been more useful if they had changed the colour of the line where it has gone active and available for connection.

Yellow or blue ...... the line is so thin it is not possible to see it on all backgrounds.

long_b

Allison Puny Appetite wrote: »

I've noticed there has been a small update as well.

Hackballscross (Louth) is live with 100 premises.

Curragh Camp (Kildare) is due live on the 19th of April.

Woo the fecking hoo!!!

KeRbDoG

Allison Puny Appetite wrote: »

Are the blue lines on the http://www.openeir.ie/Our_Network/#nga-map now yellow for anybody else? Can anyone spot any route changes?

Slight route changes when I view my area (noted this a few pages back) - looks like they are reviewing the runs. Now I see branches entering estates etc.

banjopeter

Yes, map has changed again, and some of the blue line routes look slightly different. Map for Kinvara upated as well, but the link to the Link checker leads to a 403 Forbidden notice...

Counie88

Hi all,
Quick update. Eventually got my old.order cancelled after there was a "glitch" on their system. Began dealing with a woman on tier 2 escalations as they called it. Re ordered my new FTTH with no new phone line. Was quoted 50euro for 12 months for 1000gb fibre and then 55 if I wanted to renew it. I had to clarify this a few times as I was shocked but she kept saying that's the price. It's being installed Monday. We will see how this plays out

tsue921i8wljb3

banjopeter wrote: »

Yes, map has changed again, and some of the blue line routes look slightly different. Map for Kinvara upated as well, but the link to the Link checker leads to a 403 Forbidden notice...

Yeah the Link checker (meant to be line checker I suspect) is new. I get a 403 error as well.

Tommy Lagahan

Big trench opened about 1.5KM away from me up in Barnesmore outside Donegal Town today, KN laying ducting or something. Next time I'm down the road might throw them a tenner and tell them to bring it the extra 1KM to me instead of waiting on NBP money :P Just checked the map there, looks like the one that ends prematurely up my cul-de-sac lengthened by about 5m. Only another 995m to go lol

long_b

Would be interested in hearing in anyone's experience who has downgraded from the 1Gb package. When the time comes I'd like to try it for a while anyways

Gonzo

long_b wrote: »

Would be interested in hearing in anyone's experience who has downgraded from the 1Gb package. When the time comes I'd like to try it for a while anyways

Very tempting but I just couldn't justify 75 per month for a speedtest high when the lower packages are more than enough speed for anyone.

long_b

Gonzo wrote: »

Very tempting but I just couldn't justify 75 per month for a speedtest high when the lower packages are more than enough speed for anyone.

Say it with me Gonzo... "For the higher upload speed"
That's our line and we're sticking to it.

Gonzo

long_b wrote: »

Say it with me Gonzo... "For the higher upload speed"
That's our line and we're sticking to it.

Eir are shooting themselves in the foot with the packages...

Stick everyone on 1000 /100 but offer different download data allowances. I would go for the top end package in a heartbeat if it offered extra download allowance over extra speed any day of the week.

Bored Accountant

long_b wrote: »

Would be interested in hearing in anyone's experience who has downgraded from the 1Gb package. When the time comes I'd like to try it for a while anyways

Someone here said before, that if you sign up for 1G package you can't downgrade until end of contract.

Tom Mann Centuria

So reading back a few pages, would the following photos suggest I will eventually get decent speed broadband (even though it is could be several months) or are these things something completely different from the images someone else posted? Thanks.

They put the black bracket thing up about a month ago, and the black lunch box size thing appeared wired up at the bottom of the pole this week.

I would add, despite registering my interest numerous times on the eir website and to telesales, they have not mentioned any impending arrival of anything other than my "up to 3mb" broadband I currently have.

ACLFC7

Tom Mann Centuria wrote: »

So reading back a few pages, would the following photos suggest I will eventually get decent speed broadband (even though it is could be several months) or are these things something completely different from the images someone else posted? Thanks.

That looks like FTTH equipment to me. Check this website http://fibrerollout.ie/where-and-when/ and see if your house is on a "yellow line".

Click "Rural Fibre Routes" at the top of the map if nothing is showing up.

Gonzo

thats FTTH splice box and wiring, looks to be in the early to middle stages of wiring process.

Tom Mann Centuria

Thanks very much for that lads, was hoping it might be that but had zero updates from eir, despite registering my interest more than once. I did look at the rollout map, but huge pain in the hole trying to zoom on what I want to on the phone, then I'm not sure what I'm looking for/at.

Anyway, appreciate your replies, more help here in a couple of posts than multiple messages and calls to eir.

Edit: got it, I'm a yellow line! Happy days. Hopefully this will mean quicker speeds than my average 2.7 down I currently get. We are the very last line of yellow from an exchange so presumably that means as slow as fibre gets (but hopefully still significantly better than what I have now).

ACLFC7

Does it say when your exchange is live? For example in the image I've attatched it says that Rathcoole 1000Mb/s fibre should be live on April 5th
http://imgur.com/ZQdXg3H

Tom Mann Centuria

ACLFC7 wrote: »

Does it say when your exchange is live? For example in the image I've attatched it says that Rathcoole 1000Mb/s fibre should be live on April 5th
http://imgur.com/ZQdXg3H

Cabinet in centre of my web of yellow is live now, so hopefully once they attach the lunchbox to the pole I'll be good to go, no mention of speed though. Hope I'm not dazzling anyone with my technical know how.

plodder

Tom Mann Centuria wrote: »

Cabinet in centre of my web of yellow is live now, so hopefully once they attach the lunchbox to the pole I'll be good to go, no mention of speed though. Hope I'm not dazzling anyone with my technical know how.

"Lunchbox" That's a good descriptive name for it. It might just catch on

The cabinet status is not relevant for FTTH. You need to hover over the larger blob for your exchange, and that will tell you (roughly) when FTTH will be available. Speeds will be up to 1GB (at your choice) every where. Location doesn't make any difference once you are on the yellow line

tsue921i8wljb3

Tom Mann Centuria wrote: »

Cabinet in centre of my web of yellow is live now, so hopefully once they attach the lunchbox to the pole I'll be good to go, no mention of speed though. Hope I'm not dazzling anyone with my technical know how.

The speeds are fixed no matter where on the line you are 150/30, 300/50 or 1000/100. Distance is not a factor.

Tom Mann Centuria

plodder wrote: »

"Lunchbox" That's a good descriptive name for it. It might just catch on

The cabinet status is not relevant for FTTH. You need to hover over the larger blob for your exchange, and that will tell you (roughly) when FTTH will be available. Speeds will be up to 1GB (at your choice) every where. Location doesn't make any difference once you are on the yellow line

5th April. (appreciate there will probably be a bit of slippage on that time scale but even the next few months would do me)

Can't thank you all enough for your help, not slagging Imagine, but if I hadn't of asked here, and got all the various responses, I'd have signed up for 18 months for a slower service on Monday morning. Owe you all a pint.

pegasus1

oscarBravo wrote: »

"Supposed" by whom, exactly? I have yet to discover a single error in several thousand Eircodes.

Emergency services are reluctant to use it..
I know first hand of a parcel that was being delivered by post took an extra 2 weeks...postie didnt recognise the person it was being delivered to even though the eircode was clearly listed on the address and eventually the postie looked up the eircode..
Loc8 was being offered for free, and loc8 have shown where errors have occurred with eircode..
https://brianmlucey.wordpress.com/2015/04/14/13-things-that-are-wrong-with-eircode/

oscarBravo

pegasus1 wrote: »

Emergency services are reluctant to use it..

Are they? My paramedic friend who used to be a dispatcher doesn't seem to think so.

I know first hand of a parcel that was being delivered by post took an extra 2 weeks...postie didnt recognise the person it was being delivered to even though the eircode was clearly listed on the address and eventually the postie looked up the eircode..

Postal delivery personnel aren't equipped to use Eircodes yet. That's a problem with An Post's implementation of Eircodes, not with Eircodes.

Loc8 was being offered for free, and loc8 have shown where errors have occurred with eircode..
https://brianmlucey.wordpress.com/2015/04/14/13-things-that-are-wrong-with-eircode/

There's one (and, frankly, only one) crucially important difference between Eircodes and Loc8 codes that's relevant to this thread:

Eircodes will be used by every single FTTH provider now and in the future to identify premises, and Loc8 codes will not.

That's it. End of conversation. You don't have to like Eircodes, but you pretty much do have to accept that they are the de facto mechanism for identifying FTTH endpoints for the foreseeable future.

It would be really, really nice if people could get over their bizarre hangups about Eircodes - it would be even nicer if they'd stop making up arguments against them that are unsupported by actual facts - and deal with the fact that they're here to stay.

plodder

There are many valid criticisms of Eircode, but this is not the place to discuss them. Eircode should be technically adequate for this job. Though I don't think openeir have implemented them optimally. It should be possible to just enter an eircode directly into a webpage and find out if/when you are getting FTTH.

daraghwal

plodder wrote: »

There are many valid criticisms of Eircode, but this is not the place to discuss them. Eircode should be technically adequate for this job. Though I don't think openeir have implemented them optimally. It should be possible to just enter an eircode directly into a webpage and find out if/when you are getting FTTH.

By this page, it seems there will be some sort of official line checker in the future.

Gonzo

plodder wrote: »

There are many valid criticisms of Eircode, but this is not the place to discuss them. Eircode should be technically adequate for this job. Though I don't think openeir have implemented them optimally. It should be possible to just enter an eircode directly into a webpage and find out if/when you are getting FTTH.

we should be using our Eircodes in everything we order online, make proper use of them just like they do in the UK and other countries. The system cost alot of cash to set up and most people don't use them or even know how to check their own eircode.

Westnet: Paul

Gonzo wrote: »

...most people don't use them or even know how to check their own eircode.

Last month we added a paragraph to our monthly invoicing email letting people know that if we had their eircode we'd be in a position to let them know when they could get fibre or VDSL services. We were inundated with replies containing eircodes.

We have eircodes on file for about two-thirds of our active customers, practically all of which came from the customers themselves. People can find their eircode when it's useful for them to do so.

Johnboy1951

Gonzo wrote: »

we should be using our Eircodes in everything we order online, make proper use of them just like they do in the UK and other countries. The system cost alot of cash to set up and most people don't use them or even know how to check their own eircode.

That is THE most annoying thing about it ...... well that and the fact that all companies who use it have to pay for access to the database.
All that while a free and open alternative was available, which was more useful.

Nevertheless I use the present eircode system when the opportunity presents itself.

BUT .... the cost is what prevents a lot of companies, particularly smaller ones, from using it, or so I have been told by some of those who should be using it (IMO) and don't.