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Dublin GAA Discussion Thread MOD WARNING POST #2944

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DoctaDee

DoctaDee wrote: »

Thought it was "something" Gaels Bonnie - but you maybe right .. think there was a Collins that lined out with Isles alright that had played with Pavee

Avila Gaels .. power of da internet

Bonniedog

Apparently Victor Bewley who owned the coffee houses managed them!

Now, that is bizarre!!!!

Never played against them but there were a few handy Travellers playing with Isles at one time. Collins would be right.

MayoAreMagic

blanch152 wrote: »

You said, and I quote "The only place they might have had some interactions is the international rules", which clearly shows you either forgot or didn't know about the Sigerson. The evidence is clear and undeniable. I will just leave it there as you will only try and get into a back and forth on this one.

I discounted the Sigerson based on the given criteria. I have explained why already.
I couldn't care less on what your thoughts on it are.

Stoner

Bonniedog wrote:

St. Martins? A few of them ended up with Isles for a while if memory serves.

I thought it was St. Mochtas !!

Bonniedog

Only way Dublin can avoid relegation play off I think is to beat Kilkenny and for Cork to lose to Tipp. In which case Dublin would finish ahead of Cork on head to head. Not impossible. Need to beat the Cats first of course!

It is totally meaningless match for Tipp but hopefully they will take it seriously!

EICVD

Good win for the U21 footballers last night, 2-10 to 0-9. Played into the breeze first half & dealt with the conditions well, Longford defended in numbers & broke when they could. Dubs must of had about 80% possession in the first half so deserved to lead at the break. Was all over early in the second half, 1 point lead became 10! First goal came from a desperate short kick out. Longford stuck at it well but was a none contest for the last 15 mins or so.

Slattsy

When the time comes, what way do people think O'Callaghan will go; stick fighting or footie?

ProudDUB

Methinks the more realistic chance of getting his hands on another AI medal, will steer him towards the Football.

Slats, I got ate last year for using the term stick fighting. Don't want to be pissing off the sensitive types now. :rolleyes:

Bonniedog

"Stick fighting" was the term used by that clown George Byrne of the Sindo, when he was not writing about his "beloved Chelsea." On that basis alone it ought never to be used!

Callaghan has already committed to the bogball - see what I did there :-) - as far as I know.

interesting that he did play last night. I wonder does that mean that Cuala lads be back training and maybe playing for the hurlers in last two (most likely) games?

ProudDUB

Sticks and stones and all that. I don't really care what I - or the sports I follow - are called. Once you don't call me a lentil loving coddle eater, I'm easy. Go down that particular road to Perdition & you can NEVER go back ! :mad:

Great to see Con in full flow last night. I just hope to God the poor lad doesn't get burnt out, especially if he throws his lot in with the senior footballers later in the year too. Oscar Wilde was wrong. Sometimes, you can get too much of a good thing.

gormdubhgorm

ProudDUB wrote: »

Sticks and stones and all that. I don't really care what I - or the sports I follow - are called. Once you don't call me a lentil loving coddle eater, I'm easy. Go down that particular road to Perdition & you can NEVER go back ! :mad:

Great to see Con in full flow last night. I just hope to God the poor lad doesn't get burnt out, especially if he throws his lot in with the senior footballers later in the year too. Oscar Wilde was wrong. Sometimes, you can get too much of a good thing.

It is an awful shame he does not throw his lot in with the Dublin hurlers.
But if you were a young fella in his position you would go towards the potential glamour ties that football brings (from August on in particular).

Let's be honest despite recent success, it proves that the support of the Dublin hurlers is not going to grow much.
Playing in a croke park in front of 2000/3000? Dublin hurling supporters is not going to help sway him.
But he is kind of surplus to requirements for the Dublin footballers at the moment, so maybe after a few years of being in and out of the panel/team, might change his mind?

ProudDUB

gormdubhgorm wrote: »

It is an awful shame he does not throw his lot in with the Dublin hurlers.
But if you were a young fella in his position you would go towards the potential glamour ties that football brings (from August on in particular).

Let's be honest despite recent success, it proves that the support of the Dublin hurlers is not going to grow much.
Playing in a croke park in front of 2000/3000? Dublin hurling supporters is not going to help sway him.
But he is kind of surplus to requirements for the Dublin footballers at the moment, so maybe after a few years of being in and out of the panel/team, might change his mind?

Yes and no. He needs time to make his mark. Who knows what he may have accomplished this Spring, if he wasn't off on club duty with Cuala? He may have leap frogged over McHugh, Scully and Costello, if given half a chance. In a few years, the likes of Bernard, Kev Mc, O'Gara, Connolly, Flynn & Andrews will all have ridden off into the sunset. There will be plenty of space in the forwards freed up for him to slot into, sooner rather than later.

Kilkenny & McCaffrey being handed a starting jersey at the ripe old age of 19, is not the norm. Lads know that more often than not, they have to do their apprenticeship coming off the bench for a few years. Getting a regular starting spot with the hurlers is great, but how great is it really, if your season ends every year in mid July?

gormdubhgorm

ProudDUB wrote: »

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Getting a regular starting spot with the hurlers is great, but how great is it really, if your season ends every year in mid July?

If the DCB balanced out both squads better. Dublin hurling would have a great chance of reaching/surpassing the heady days of 2013 when they played Cork in an AI semi.

Imagine what a forward line Costello, Kilkenny and O'Callaghan would make for the hurlers?

Personally, I think the DCB should talk to the managers look at the areas where there is a surplus in the footballers and tell the player to declare for the hurlers for one year at least.
I know people will say now that Kilkenny is a crucial player for the footballers, and Costello scored 3 points to win sam etc.

But the reality is that the Dublin footballers have amazing strength and depth and do not need this trio.
They would make a much greater impact for Dublin GAA is they played for the hurlers. It would be a much greater legacy.

I know it is pie and the sky stuff, to force players to play in one code over the other.
But I think they should try and give hurlers extra mileage payments, more free gear, nicer cars then the footballers are getting.

Because I think it is a bit silly that the football panel is bloated and in the hurling panel fellas are running away from it for various reasons!

Most of the football panel won't be needed until August anyway.
Whereas the hurlers have a far more acute need in the leinster hurling championship v Galway.

Bonniedog

Dual senior is impossible these days. Even counties like Derry more or less force players to choose.

However, I do think that players should be allowed a choice at minor and 21s. I don't see what harm it does.

Only positive aspect from a hurling point of view is that there are few if any dual players any more on county teams.

DoctaDee

Bonniedog wrote: »

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Only positive aspect from a hurling point of view is that there are few if any dual players any more on county teams.

Yeah and furthermore there's few if any on the Dev squads either... It's really becoming a one code game

ProudDUB

You can't force or coerce or bully or bribe lads into playing a code they don't want to. Imagine the outcry if they tried that down in Tipp or KK, trying to get lads play football. The cold, hard fact of the matter is that hurling will always be the poor relation in Dublin. The footballers will always get the cream of the crop. We may have a better chance of getting players to declare for the hurlers, if the footballers were going thru a barren patch. But the chance of getting your hands on an AI medal, as well as being a part of the greatest Dubs team of all time, is too big an opportunity for most to pass up. They are only human after all.

Bonniedog

ProudDUB wrote: »

You can't force or coerce or bully or bribe lads into playing a code they don't want to. Imagine the outcry if they tried that down in Tipp or KK, trying to get lads play football. The cold, hard fact of the matter is that hurling will always be the poor relation in Dublin. The footballers will always get the cream of the crop. We may have a better chance of getting players to declare for the hurlers, if the footballers were going thru a barren patch. But the chance of getting your hands on an AI medal, as well as being a part of the greatest Dubs team of all time, is too big an opportunity for most to pass up. They are only human after all.

No-one is blaming players for making a choice. Mick Holden did as far back as the early 80s. In the old days of classic dual players like JBM and Coughlan and Cummins, there were less games and there was always at least a week between league games and way more than that between championship. and there were less games before the qualifiers. Cork footballers only played 4 games when they won the All Ireland in 1973. Hurlers only had one game!

There is no way any of those players would balance the two nowadays.

As for the coercion, well certain chaps were given ultimatums to choose when still 21s. Cost at least one of them a Leinster under 21 hurling medal.

Dyr

Absolutely should not be any dual county players from 16 onwards. Commit to a code or make room for someone who will. No use pumping resources into lads who are only using hurling as their plan b.

CatInABox

Bambi wrote: »

Absolutely should not be any dual county players from 16 onwards. Commit to a code or make room for someone who will. No use pumping resources into lads who are only using hurling as their plan b.

Way too young to be forcing such a choice on a kid. I think that kids should be encouraged to play the game they love, and not play the game that will give them the most medals, because I really think winning isn't everything. At least, it shouldn't be in an amateur sport.

Perhaps I'm just naive, but I don't think that either game will benefit from a stark choice at 16.

Bonniedog

Forcing a choice on young fellas is often a selfish one on the part of managers/mentors. They are solely interested in using the chap to win something. Promise of making county teams later is pretty minimal lets face it. So let them play whatever they want, including rugby, soccer, basketball. they are not indentured servants.

ProudDUB

Here we go. Rossies watch out !

ProudDUB

Apols for how big that is. No idea why it happens.

Slattsy

Dublin by 15.

CatInABox

ProudDUB wrote: »

Apols for how big that is. No idea why it happens.

That's the size of it at the source, even if it looks small on their page. I'd normally copy the pic, paste it into a site like imgur.com, then copy the medium size back onto the img tag on boards. I don't do it often, because as you can see, it's a total faff.

If you're just grabbing it from twitter, then click the little down arrow on the tweet, then click "copy link to tweet", the copy the link and paste it here. Boards will deal with the rest then.

https://twitter.com/DubMatchTracker/status/845387576408199168

EDIT: You don't need to do anything with the link either, just paste it into the reply box on it's own line and you're done with it.

Basically, it'll look like this, but without the quotation marks
"

https://twitter.com/DubMatchTracker/status/845387576408199168"

ProudDUB

Yeah, I get how to post an actual URL, but what about posting the actual pic, as opposed to just a link?

Here is the actual link, but when I add in the and

bits, 'nowt happens.

So I just right click on the image in the tweet, select Copy Image Location and the post it here....only it turns out as huge as John Costello's trophy cabinet.

CatInABox

ProudDUB wrote: »

Yeah, I get how to post an actual URL, but what about posting the actual pic, as opposed to just a link?

Here is the actual link, but when I add in the bits, 'nowt happens.

So I just right click on the image in the tweet, select Copy Image Location and the post it here....only it turns out as huge as John Costello's trophy cabinet.

Yeah, it's that large because that's the size of it on twitter. They just make all the images on their site the right size for your screen, Boards has none of that high tech stuff.

The quickest and fastest way is to load it onto an image hosting site like imgur or similar, and then use their built in tech to get a smaller image. It's a bit of a pain, but it's easy enough after the first time.

ProudDUB

Yeah, I have an account with Photobucket for uploading pix, but I'm far too feckin' lazy to go to all that trouble....so yizzer effed up browsers will just have to put up with it. Sowee !

Donal55

Any news on when Connolly is going to emerge from the shadows?
Shy guy and all that he is!!

EnergyBlaster

Your doing the team a disservice. It needs to be bigger. These guys are monsters they should be shown as monsters.

CatInABox wrote: »

That's the size of it at the source, even if it looks small on their page. I'd normally copy the pic, paste it into a site like imgur.com, then copy the medium size back onto the img tag on boards. I don't do it often, because as you can see, it's a total faff.

If you're just grabbing it from twitter, then click the little down arrow on the tweet, then click "copy link to tweet", the copy the link and paste it here. Boards will deal with the rest then.

https://twitter.com/DubMatchTracker/status/845387576408199168

EDIT: You don't need to do anything with the link either, just paste it into the reply box on it's own line and you're done with it.

Basically, it'll look like this, but without the quotation marks
"
https://twitter.com/DubMatchTracker/status/845387576408199168"

Bonniedog

PP have Dublin at 5/4 to score 2 goals or more. Now, I know they have only scored three so far, but the line up and the incentive to boost point difference tonight could see them really cut loose. Rossies will collapse under the pressure methinks.