Parliament is on lockdown after gunshots were heard outside the Palace of Westminster.
seachto7 wrote: » That's what I mean. I'm with you on it. In general, we don't take the bait in Europe, but they still do it again and again. It's hard to know what stand politicians should take apart from the obvious ones. You need to kill the ideology. Waste of time carpet bombing the "caliphate"...
Richard Hillman wrote: » Hahaha that old chestnut "this is what they want". I thought that cliche was retired. If you were ISIS and you wanted to build the Caliphate encompassing Europe, who would you rather lead Europe, Hitler or Merkel? Churchill or Corbyn? Stalin or Colm O'Gorman?
Richard Hillman wrote: » FrancieBrady wrote: » Richard Hillman is doing one thing massively right, he is reacting in exactly the way it was designed for him to react. Win win for his most vaunted if nebulous enemy. Hahaha that old chestnut "this is what they want". I thought that cliche was retired. If you were ISIS and you wanted to build the Caliphate encompassing Europe, who would you rather lead Europe, Hitler or Merkel? Churchill or Corbyn? Stalin or Colm O'Gorman?
FrancieBrady wrote: » Richard Hillman is doing one thing massively right, he is reacting in exactly the way it was designed for him to react. Win win for his most vaunted if nebulous enemy.
FrancieBrady wrote: » seachto7 wrote: » And when people light candles and stand together in defiance of the enemy and campaign not to react in a kneejerk way, they still go and do it again anyway. If their countries weren't bombed day in day out, would everything be rosey in the garden? I doubt it. You think this is gonna be solved by people lighting candles? That's like saying cancer will be cured if you repost a facebook status.It's going to take much more than that.
seachto7 wrote: » And when people light candles and stand together in defiance of the enemy and campaign not to react in a kneejerk way, they still go and do it again anyway. If their countries weren't bombed day in day out, would everything be rosey in the garden? I doubt it.
FrancieBrady wrote: » You think this is gonna be solved by people lighting candles? That's like saying cancer will be cured if you repost a facebook status. It's going to take much more than that.
Atlantic Dawn wrote: » Theresa May has confirmed he was British born. The limited terrorist "skills" he showed yesterday could have been got simply from playing GTA IV on the PS3, he didn't even use a manual car.
Depp wrote: » yes actually you'll find he did?
Richard Hillman wrote: » No. Have they been blowing the sh1t out of Sudan, Nigeria, Saudi Arabia, Bangladesh?
Billy86 wrote: » No no no, drone strikes randomly killing innocents you see Francie, that's the way to stop radical terror cells like ISIS from recruiting disillusioned people. "You know, as a young and impressionable Syrian I wasn't very fond of the US and it's role in destabilising the part of the world I lived in. Islamic extremist groups would constantly use this as propaganda for their recruitment, and each and every time the west would would be involved in another incident, that propaganda would sound just a tiny bit more true and appealling. But then when the west blew my entire neighbourhood to pieces killing nearly everyone in it including the rest of my family in a drone strike... well you know, they're kind of alright." Sounds totally realistic, right?
wes wrote: » Did Robinson condemn the terror attack in Canada against Muslims, by a far right nutter? The far right are hardly in a position to claim any morale superitority considering there own terror attacks.
Professor Moriarty wrote: » What "sides" are you talking about? "Why does immigration work for all other groups in UK?" Let's start with people's places of origin. Have the US, Britain and France been bombing the sh1t out of Israel, Poland, Ireland and India?
Snake Plisken wrote: » Lineman seems to have become completely unhinged since Trump and Brexit happened , but typical of him not to condemn the attacker and focus on Robinson.
biko wrote: » To be honest, the political polarization [sic] is because of murders, bombings and rapes - all from one side towards the other. Why does immigration work for all other groups in UK? Sikhs, Jews, Irish, Polish, etc seems to integrate just fine.
FrancieBrady wrote: » Sorry, i didn't realise I was dealing with a Bruce Willis wannabe. So drone strikes are gonna stop a guy hiring a car and buying a kitchen knife. Excellent. Unless Bruce is advocating wiping every Muslim of the face of the earth? hmmmm.
LexieOnRale wrote: » Or the whole Catholic Church tarred with the same brush as the paedo priests... oh wait..
ohnonotgmail wrote: » Why should the whole muslim community be collectively blamed for the actions of individuals? would you be happy for the whole irish community in the uk in the 70's and 80's to be collectively blamed for the actions of the IRA?
bubblypop wrote: » Thomas__ wrote: » He carried out the attack by himself, but as you may know by now, there have been seven others arrested in Birmingham and the car the attack drove into the people was rented from a rental car company in Birmingham, thus the trace leading to them. It is already stated that there is some IS-Network already operating in the UK, probably small, but capable of such attacks. Maybe you might keep yourself up to date and follow the news. My line was directed to his accomplices. I don't believe it has been proved he had any accomplices. Maybe you should follow the news closer
Thomas__ wrote: » He carried out the attack by himself, but as you may know by now, there have been seven others arrested in Birmingham and the car the attack drove into the people was rented from a rental car company in Birmingham, thus the trace leading to them. It is already stated that there is some IS-Network already operating in the UK, probably small, but capable of such attacks. Maybe you might keep yourself up to date and follow the news. My line was directed to his accomplices.
seachto7 wrote: » I see Graham Linehan retweeing critics of Robsinson yesterday, but he failed to say anything about the scum who carry out these attacks.
Hank Scorpio wrote: » Scotland yard confirmed an Islamic terrorist attack according to Fox. Almost as good as the Guardian.
andekwarhola wrote: » Something that's seems harder and harder to do with the increasing political polarization around the topic.
seachto7 wrote: » Interesting to see the response to right winger Tommy Robinson, who happened to be nearby as events were unfolding. People seemed to be more offended by him being there than by what happened. Yes, Robinson was very quick to blame “Islam”, and while I wouldn’t blame “Islam”, it was hardly a Buddhist who did it. There’s a video of him knocking around near the scene, and he comes across like a scumbag in a pub, not able to remain calm and make a point, you know, like he’s always just about to break into a bout of violence. I do think, in amongst his ranting and raving, he does have a point, but just because he’s working class, his point isn’t taken seriously? He’s proven to be right on many occasions, and wrong on many more. I see Graham Linehan retweeing critics of Robsinson yesterday, but he failed to say anything about the scum who carry out these attacks. On the other hand, when you have US airstrikes killing 33 refugees in Syria the other day, can you blame people who then decide to take revenge….
