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Attack outside UK Houses Of Parliament — No speculation — Read 1st post

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Parliament is on lockdown after gunshots were heard outside the Palace of Westminster.

http://news.sky.com/story/gunshots-heard-outside-parliament-10810680

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snowflaker

Love how boards seems to allow all these new posters spring up after incidents with so much hate speech

snowflaker

Help!!!! wrote: »

42.....but sorry I'm married

So you remember Birmingham and Guildford and Enniskillen and Warrington

Timberrrrrrrr

Cessna_Pilot wrote: »

Quite the opposite I would have thought, the amount of blatent Islamic terrorism sympathisers is worrying.

Just read the tread from the start, care to name one because I haven't seen a single poster who sympathises with Islamic terrorism, maybe I missed a post that you could link me to?

Canis Lupus

FTA69 wrote: »

No bother. So in the name of tolerance and liberalism you're going to ban people worshipping is it? Gas man.

Islam isn't a building by the way.

He's a rereg of that other account that just got modded out of existence a second ago no point feeding him.

CoolHandBandit

Closing down Mosques won't help. Muslims themselves need to weed out these thugs and not allow them brainwash others. They need to step forward and condem these clowns at every opportunity. Failure to do so isn't acceptable.

Ulysses Gaze

silverharp wrote: »

hmmmmm!

Looking at the way her hand is on her face and the look on her face, she looks as if she is in shock and texting home.

That's what I'd infer from the picture.

snowflaker

I worry for boards that allows a breeding ground for hate. I'm out.

Jelle1880

Can't help but think how that judge, who decided not to jail him must feel.

I mean, he only left the UK with 8000 pounds, supposedly 'going to Turkey to find his family'. Makes perfect sense, right ?

Edit: If it's correct of course what the Met said, it's supposedly this fella.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abu_Izzadeen
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-35262460

Christy42

conorhal wrote: »

Are you trying to pretend the actual common denominator here isn't Islam? More specifically Chowdry's pernicious influence? That's the person who should never have been allowed through the door.

The Internet does not exist then? Are you going to stop them from seeing anything? I have no issue with stopping scum like Choudary from spreading their influence but banning a decent chunk of the world from your country seems like an over reaction to stop a few preachers.

Realistically if you ban middle eastern people from the UK you will just end up with people from different parts of the world coming or being sent to radicalised. GoING after the preachers specifically gives you the network to deal with them no matter where they come from without stopping the many fine middle eastern people adding to life in the UK.

donkeykong5

CoolHandBandit wrote: »

Closing down Mosques won't help. Muslims themselves need to weed out these thugs and not allow them brainwash others. They need to step forward and condem these clowns at every opportunity. Failure to do so isn't acceptable.

The bloody noise out of the one in Whitechapel is deafening. Yeah why not...close it down.

ligerdub

snowflaker wrote: »

I sometimes think that boards is becoming a voice for fat right sympathisers in Ireland. Twitter posts even indicate as such. Breitbart seems more balanced and less xenophobic than some boards threads

You might want to stick the news on pal, find out what's going on!

I'm sick of this guff about "far right sympathisers" as if that's just to be taken as a given to anybody who has a concern about radical Islamist extremism. One can be very concerned about the common denominator in these attacks while remaining respectful of people who choose to silently go about their business in their Muslim faith.

While it is not a view I personally care to think too much about, I can't criticise too much the people who question whether the entire Muslim religion is more naturally predisposed to violence and terrorism than all other groups. The level of carnage and bombs under the banner of Islamist fanaticism is staggering. I stress the word fanaticism there, which is the real danger, and while it may be small (or maybe not even that anymore), it is a very, very serious issue, and it is too common to pretend it isn't related.

There is the argument about naturalised citizens rather than refugees, but I don't follow the logic there. The perpetrators are still doing so due to the same ideologies. The fact that some of the attackers are from different ethnic groups is even more of a concern in my opinion, not less! If anything it shows the dangers of lost souls walking into the hands of these fanatics only too happen to have another soldier to give up their lives for a misplaced sense of doing God's work. It's completely nuts, and it needs to be called out as such. All the #PrayForXXXX hashtags and do-gooder mentalities won't erase this. I'm just mostly sick and tired of the "far right" tags and the like, get a grip!

Christy42

Ulysses Gaze wrote: »

Looking at the way her hand is on her face and the look on her face, she looks as if she is in shock and texting home.

That's what I'd infer from the picture.

Quite possible that people knew she was near the area and wanted assurances that she was alright.

[Deleted User]

Given the supposed numbers of the IRA and the population of Ireland, then surely an Irish person is more likely to be a terrorist than a Muslim to be an Extremist.

So, again, should Irish people not be banned from travelling? Should Ireland not be added to the no-fly country list that America & England has? I mean, you don't know, they could be a terrorist.

Of course, this is not accurate and not correct assumption, but it all just sounds so idiotic that people keep banging that drum.

Notavirus.exe

snowflaker wrote: »

What is this based on? Have the majority of muslims committed and support terrorism?

Sharia law calls for killing non-Muslims. Sharia law is in place in every MUSLIM majority country. This is how these people live in those countries. I'm basing my statement on facts and logic. And the polls conducted in 32 Muslim countries agree with me. Every single country on that list has between 55-99% Sharia law support among the Muslim population there.

And there are over 110 Quran verses telling Muslims to kill non-Muslims. When you subscribe yourself to an ideology such as this one, I'm gonna raise an eyebrow at you.

donkeykong5

political analyst wrote: »

How did the attacker get close enough to an armed policeman to stab him to death?

That post is upsetting. The poor guy just standing there doing his job. !

[Deleted User]

Notavirus.exe wrote: »

Sharia law calls for killing non-Muslims. Sharia law is in place in every MUSLIM majority country. This is how these people live in those countries. I'm basing my statement on facts and logic. And the polls conducted in 32 Muslim countries agree with me. Every single country on that list has between 55-99% Sharia law support among the Muslim population there.

And there are over 110 Quran verses telling Muslims to kill non-Muslims. When you subscribe yourself to an ideology such as this one, I'm gonna raise an eyebrow at you.

Since you mention the Quran, how many verses in the Bible call for Catholics to kill people? I mean, should you not raise eyebrows at Catholics..?

Canis Lupus

Deleted User wrote: »

Given the supposed numbers of the IRA and the population of Ireland, then surely an Irish person is more likely to be a terrorist than a Muslim to be an Extremist.

So, again, should Irish people not be banned from travelling? Should Ireland not be added to the no-fly country list that America & England has? I mean, you don't know, they could be a terrorist.

Of course, this is not accurate and not correct assumption, but it all just sounds so idiotic that people keep banging that drum.

Yes but we're white and speak english so it's different... :pac::pac:

Jelle1880

Apparently the sollicitor of the guy named says he's still in jail... ?

Help!!!!

snowflaker wrote: »

So you remember Birmingham and Guildford and Enniskillen and Warrington

Yes which were done by the IRA, a small percentage of the Irish population
The terrorist attacks that are being done are done in the name of Allah how many Muslims in the world?? Over 1.5billion. How many radical Muslims in the world? Radical = believing in Sharia Law, throwing gays off of buildings etc?
Well Indonesia has roughly 180million Muslims with 72% favouring Sharia law...thats roughly 129,600,00 radicals, just from one Muslim country

snowflaker

ligerdub wrote: »

You might want to stick the news on pal, find out what's going on!

I'm sick of this guff about "far right sympathisers" as if that's just to be taken as a given to anybody who has a concern about radical Islamist extremism. One can be very concerned about the common denominator in these attacks while remaining respectful of people who choose to silently go about their business in their Muslim faith.

While it is not a view I personally care to think too much about, I can't criticise too much the people who question whether the entire Muslim religion is more naturally predisposed to violence and terrorism than all other groups. The level of carnage and bombs under the banner of Islamist fanaticism is staggering. I stress the word fanaticism there, which is the real danger, and while it may be small (or maybe not even that anymore), it is a very, very serious issue, and it is too common to pretend it isn't related.

There is the argument about naturalised citizens rather than refugees, but I don't follow the logic there. The perpetrators are still doing so due to the same ideologies. The fact that some of the attackers are from different ethnic groups is even more of a concern in my opinion, not less! If anything it shows the dangers of lost souls walking into the hands of these fanatics only too happen to have another soldier to give up their lives for a misplaced sense of doing God's work. It's completely nuts, and it needs to be called out as such. All the #PrayForXXXX hashtags and do-gooder mentalities won't erase this. I'm just mostly sick and tired of the "far right" tags and the like, get a grip!

How many of Islamic faith have been involved in terrorist attacks? As you discribed it as "staggering" you must know the number and it must be a significant percentage

[Deleted User]

Sad to see another fundamentalist Islamic attack.

end of the road

SnakePlissken wrote: »

Stop being such an obvious gob****e.

what a fantastic argument you have put forward there. i have been blown away by your indept points with huge amount of evidence to boot and have changed my opinion

#fake news #alternativefacts

Silane

Abu Mohammad Ibn Durka wrote: »

Hopefully Trump's travel ban comes into effect. At least the Americans can take steps to protect themselves and they're not really losing out by banning Somalis now are they?

Not now that the taxi's will be self driving

Notavirus.exe

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Given the supposed numbers of the IRA and the population of Ireland, then surely an Irish person is more likely to be a terrorist than a Muslim to be an Extremist.

So, again, should Irish people not be banned from travelling? Should Ireland not be added to the no-fly country list that America & England has? I mean, you don't know, they could be a terrorist.

Of course, this is not accurate and not correct assumption, but it all just sounds so idiotic that people keep banging that drum.

The IRA "terrorists" voluntarily fought the British army who had no right to be in Ireland.

The Muslims who kill people are following what the Quran tells them to do.

Your comparison is stupid.

Help!!!!

Deleted User wrote: »

Since you mention the Quran, how many verses in the Bible call for Catholics to kill people? I mean, should you not raise eyebrows at Catholics..?

Catholics have moved on with time. Muslims live by the Quran thats a huge difference

Jelle1880

Abu Mohammad Ibn Durka wrote: »

Hopefully Trump's travel ban comes into effect. At least the Americans can take steps to protect themselves and they're not really losing out by banning Somalis now are they?

Well, unless it's a local boy shooting up a school of course.

...And Justice

Why don't they just admit it was a Snackbar attack, I mean who else does this? They admitted that the guy was Asian, their alluding to it on sky news, this is not a cupcake you can paint pink icing over for...Jesus.

"Please don't offend the terrorists" - That's the line the media are taking.

Notavirus.exe

snowflaker wrote: »

Are they banning Jamaicans? Otherwise it wouldn't have any effect on today's attack

Banning Jamacains from America is gonna somehow affect an Islamic terrorist attack that already happened in London?

Did I read that right?

snowflaker

Notavirus.exe wrote: »

The IRA "terrorists" voluntarily fought the British army who had no right to be in Ireland.

The Muslims who kill people are following what the Quran tells them to do.

Your comparison is stupid.

The majority wanted to remain part of the UK. And since the GFA even SF recognises that right. Were the people killed in Warrington, Brighton, Birmingham and Guildford soldiers?

Jelle1880

...And Justice wrote: »

Why don't they just admit it was a Snackbar attack, I mean who else does this? They admitted that the guy was Asian, their alluding to it on sky news, this is not a cupcake you can paint pink icing over for...Jesus.

"Please don't offend the terrorists" - That's the line the media are taking.

No, they're waiting to be sure.

First the media is criticised for releasing information too fast in the search for ratings, then they wait for confirmation and it's again a problem ?