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High Noon with George Hook.

kneemos

A full ten minutes to get to the Muslims,and now it's Rugby.Not much has changed.

Sounds in good form anyway.

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Grolschevik

Ol' Donie wrote: »

Turned on the radio there. George doing his monologue rubbish. Talking about yesterday's attack, and patting himself on the back for "consistently" questioning unrestricted access for migrants.

Three of the first six words in The Guardian's main headline right now are "British Born Assailant".

Indeed, this was in the public domain yesterday evening.

[Deleted User]

A Shaved Duck? wrote: »

Love how the public sector give it the poor mouth constantly but the facts blow the whole facade out of the water.

loads of lifers in the public service collecting increments year on year for zero improvment in performance dragging up the average.

I was wondering yesterday how much do TV license inspectors get paid. I was thinking if there was 10 and they earned 35k, that it costs not RTE but An Post(another public service claiming they can't make ends meet due to operations costs), 350,000 plus expenses to go around and inspect peoples licenses. Then I found an article in the Irish Times from 2015 saying the cost of collecting the license is in the region of 12 million. :eek:

What do they do with it all I wondered but you've answered that. Paying people who push paper all day but due to increments and bonuses for showing up, earn more than a senior software engineer

Ol' Donie

"Researchers", indeed.

I should probably mention that once I heard him going down that route, it quite literally took me less than five seconds, probably closer to three seconds, to find that the attacker was from Britain. So it is literally the case that there is actually zero research done before he starts.

Vorenus400

Ol' Donie wrote: »

Turned on the radio there. George doing his monologue rubbish. Talking about yesterday's attack, and patting himself on the back for "consistently" question unrestricted access for migrants.

Three of the first six words in The Guardian's main headline right now are "British Born Assailant".

If that judge in Hawaii hadnt blocked trumps travel ban then this wouldnt have happened:rolleyes:

George's researchers only seem to go to american fox news style sites for information.

At least newstalk had the good sense to not send Henry McKean over to London

Ol' Donie

Turned on the radio there. George doing his monologue rubbish. Talking about yesterday's attack, and patting himself on the back for "consistently" questioning unrestricted access for migrants.

Three of the first six words in The Guardian's main headline right now are "British Born Assailant".

A Shaved Duck?

Love how the public sector give it the poor mouth constantly but the facts blow the whole facade out of the water.

loads of lifers in the public service collecting increments year on year for zero improvment in performance dragging up the average.

PeterTheNinth

"but more of that later". does he have to say that in every one of his reports?

Vunderground

That bit with Shane Coleman was fun. He (Coleman) was loosing his mind

Vorenus400

Ive noticed it before but George has Shane Coleman on to make him look like a conservative, its quite funny. Coleman saying kids shouldnt be watching porn and that he will be called a prude fro saying this. What weird feckin company is he keeping? Everyone agrees children shouldnt be watching hardcore porn but how to go about it without completely isolating the kid is the thing. Coleman on his we should do something but he has no viable idea. George speaking a bit of sense on this, Its nearly impossible to restrict a kid while allowing him access to the technology to see porn.

I have no doubt that George only raised (pardon the pun) the topic and invited shane in to call him a conservative and piss him off a little

PeterTheNinth

The kids get a high five when they drop the ball? What a load of rubbish. do they get a high five when they fail their exams as well?

foxtrot101

thedudeinthehat wrote: »

When will George admit to being wrong on trump,

Some time after the impeachment. George has invested a lot in being the "only one to call the election correctly". It's going to hit him hard when it all comes crashing down.

thedudeinthehat

For Forks Sake wrote: »

Hook's modern day Lord Haw-Haw act in defence of Trump is tiresome at this stage, I suspect he only backed him to be contrarian and now he's stuck with it.

Haha super comparison.
Listened back.to his latest unprecedented podcast. Adrian (surname? : guess is a wooly liberal as George see`s it) points out valid criticisms of policies and statements and Georges defence of Trump had a few peaches.

1. New type of president, we can't expect him to act like previous. (That's an understatement)
2. Trumpcare gives tax breaks to the 1% , at the expense of the middle and working classes. For George the response of those affected is that they will be grateful because trump is rewarding those who worked hardest and that it is ultimately very American to reward the succesful even more. As george said, us European communists could never understand an American who thinks this way. I would love to meet this famed American who is happy to work two jobs so that Trump and his buddies can have that extra yacht and mansion.
3. On the wire tapping. It doesnt matter what the truth is, for George the case is that 40% of the Trump base believed his mad tweet. George says this shows how clever the man is. If enda kenny ever carried on like that we would never hear the end of it.

Your lord haw haw analogy also.reminds me of the intellectual left who defended Soviet communism even as news of the purges, gulags, crushing of the Hungarian and Prague springs made clear the reality of that system.
When will George admit to being wrong on trump, at what point will he defend the indefensible.

For Forks Sake

Hook's modern day Lord Haw-Haw act in defence of Trump is tiresome at this stage, I suspect he only backed him to be contrarian and now he's stuck with it.

CatFromHue

Yeah I thought so too Lt Dan. On Dragon's Den he wasn't likeable at all but his radio show and the way he talks to his guests on his show is the complete opposite.

Lt Dan

thedudeinthehat wrote: »

Bobby Kerr came across really well today. Nice style, gets lots out of his guests, unlike someone else who uses guests as a sounding board for his own opinions.

Bobby also spoke very thoughtfully and heartfelt about the terrible helicopter accident. Had heard him on business section before: maybe he has being overlooked for something more current affairs...y

Side note: the piece on porridge was super and shows sometimes the best food is the most simple.

I have always enjoyed his contributions to Newstalk over the years. Remarkable difference to his image and performance on tv for Dragon's Den

thedudeinthehat

Bobby Kerr came across really well today. Nice style, gets lots out of his guests, unlike someone else who uses guests as a sounding board for his own opinions.

Bobby also spoke very thoughtfully and heartfelt about the terrible helicopter accident. Had heard him on business section before: maybe he has being overlooked for something more current affairs...y

Side note: the piece on porridge was super and shows sometimes the best food is the most simple.

southstar

Brendan Bendar wrote: »

I had a think about that Donie, and came to the conclusion that the ad. has a streak of truth running through it.

Not only universities but in real life too, looks like the "looney left" is now run by 'well educated' people who are connected to state employment and have the safety net to fall back on whilst peddling their disasterous( for any honest taxpaying worker) agenda.

So Donie, maybe the ad for Georges show might have different connotations for different people.

Just possible ,mind!!

Maybe well educated ,intelligent people tend to be more left wing...just saying like...oh and what do you have to believe in to belong to belong this ominous sounding "looney left"... and whats in this celebrated "agenda"..( can"t see any chance of getting away from these pesky agendas ).

Plenty evidence of the looney right though...The Daily Mail for a start, oh and that orange man child on the TV every day.

i71jskz5xu42pb

thedudeinthehat wrote: »

As said previously here,nuance, complexity and real life humanity

Complexity, pish, so much easier to put people into caricatured buckets: "honest taxpaying worker", "Rockefeller", "looney left". I'm taking the afternoon off to see which bucket I can shoehorn myself into or maybe I'll take a leaf from the Holy Trinity's book.

thedudeinthehat

Brendan Bendar wrote: »

Ol' Donie wrote: »

"Are our universities populated by lecturers who are loony lefties?"

That was on an ad for George's show I just heard.

Ignoring from the obviously unneccesarily incendiary terminology, George, can I just point out that our Universities are populated by educated people. Have a think about that.

I had a think about that Donie, and came to the conclusion that the ad. has a streak of truth running through it.

Not only universities but in real life too, looks like the "looney left" is now run by 'well educated' people who are connected to state employment and have the safety net to fall back on whilst peddling their disasterous( for any honest taxpaying worker) agenda.

So Donie, maybe the ad for Georges show might have different connotations for different people.

Just possible ,mind!!

Yes the ad has different connotations but in the end I thought that of the two contributors rory hearne came across very well.

For example, Ed byrne (sic?) Resorted to calling rory hearne a wealthy lazy Rockefeller type character , subsidized by hard working right wing people. Rory simply replied that education has a value and the ability to think for oneself is most important.
Rory successfully questioned the raising boats myth of neo liberal economics to which George could only reply "yeh but Stalin"
People never criticise corporations with the line "yeh but Hitler" even tho the role of large capitalists enterprises and corporations in the rise and reign of the third reich is being better ubderstood all the time.

George's characture of universities as left wing dens was simply lazy. I know plenty of PD /conservative or Rand types working in universities, think tanks. At the same time I would consider myself and other colleagues working in start ups/ finance/ self.employed with socialist/ left leaning/ progressive ideals.

As said previously here,nuance, complexity and real life humanity do not fit into either Georges opening rants or his bug bears that fit into a two hour slot , with the ability to generate lots of sms revenue.

Brendan Bendar

Ol' Donie wrote: »

"Are our universities populated by lecturers who are loony lefties?"

That was on an ad for George's show I just heard.

Ignoring from the obviously unneccesarily incendiary terminology, George, can I just point out that our Universities are populated by educated people. Have a think about that.

I had a think about that Donie, and came to the conclusion that the ad. has a streak of truth running through it.

Not only universities but in real life too, looks like the "looney left" is now run by 'well educated' people who are connected to state employment and have the safety net to fall back on whilst peddling their disasterous( for any honest taxpaying worker) agenda.

So Donie, maybe the ad for Georges show might have different connotations for different people.

Just possible ,mind!!

meeeeh

As someone who lived next to Italy for more than half of my life I would agree it's not clean. That being said Ireland is very bad around litter. In comparison to most of the central Europe it's very littered.

Conservative

The guy talking about litter in Dublin city centre clearly hasn't visited much of his companions home country. I think he mentioned Genoa as a favourable example. It's nice in places but unless streets full of African streetwalkers and their pimps after dark are your idea of class, you are in the wrong place. Far from clean also.

Many cities in Italy have had problems with waste disposal and litter, far worse than anything ever seen in Ireland. The army was called in to clean up parts of Rome recently.

Had he talked about the amount of filthbags, beggars and junkies I would have agreed.

Discodog

George likes the Breakthough slot, presumably because he can go for a pee etc. I like it because it means a few minutes without Hook

i71jskz5xu42pb

Ol' Donie wrote: »

"Are our universities populated by lecturers who are loony lefties?"

That was on an ad for George's show I just heard.

That was bad enough (tabloid stuff, shame Newstalk stoops so low), but the second part of that teaser was about George offering business advice (dress code, punctuality, it seems). George is very open about the fact that he's a poor businessman. No shame there but why would you then devote a segment to business advice?

Discodog

George berates modern communication but we wouldn't have exposed the Church without it. Back to basics was John Major's rallying cry & look what happened to him :pac:

thedudeinthehat

Discodog wrote: »

The thing that caught my ear in the Darcy interview is that the Pope has virtually no say in how the Church is run. He said that he couldn't write to the Pope as he wouldn't be allowed to see the letter. He implied that the Pope is a puppet.

Yeh - and in some other ways not surprising. It comes down to how we must view the Catholic Church as an organisation/instituition- acting in its own self interest every time.
I can't remember where I read this but I recall hearing that at same time Cardinal Connell and Catholics in Ireland were denying sex abuse- they were taking out very specific insurance policies to protect their assets/land/cash from any compensation claims ( mid to late nineties)
George gets outraged at all sorts- and in the face of actual corruption and wrong doing- he simply keeps going back to how great the past was- how we are all going to hell in a handbasket due to more liberal and secular Ireland.
Yet , look how far we have come as we shake the shackles off!

Discodog

The thing that caught my ear in the Darcy interview is that the Pope has virtually no say in how the Church is run. He said that he couldn't write to the Pope as he wouldn't be allowed to see the letter. He implied that the Pope is a puppet.

Ol' Donie

"Are our universities populated by lecturers who are loony lefties?"

That was on an ad for George's show I just heard.

Ignoring from the obviously unneccesarily incendiary terminology, George, can I just point out that our Universities are populated by educated people. Have a think about that.

thedudeinthehat

So George finally got onto discussing Tuam and the role of the Catholic Church in Ireland's history, with the humanist priest father Brian Darcy.
Lets have some nice talking points from the chat:
1. Cowardice in the face of the Truth
Intro to High Noon claims "The no holds bars/hands on/hits the high notes Hooks" versus George's statement on Tuam. "I cant bear to listen or read about it. I know nothing about it. "
As a professional broadcaster, George simply chooses ignorance and wilful silence over insight and courage to face the truth. And that is the same reason the church went unchallenged for decades in this country. As George himself said, he will be delivering a homily and attending a Novena in the coming days- and in that context facing the truth about his beloved Catholic Church is just too much. "Sad!"
2. George suddenly discovers Nuance and complexity in human affairs:
When it comes to issues such as migration/political correctness/crime etc- George usually can be found to have very simple and unkind views.
Migrants: There may be some people with bad intentions amongst the millions of good refugees- therefore all refugees are a danger and we can't take any- ( i.e. jump from the specific to the general)
Catholic Church: Whether sex abusers/paedophiles/or the cruel orders that ran the laundries and mother and child homes- there were some people with bad intentions amongst the millions of good Catholics, but we must not jump from the specific to the general) The Catholic Church is necessary and special, so any bad it does can be explained away as human weakness- rather than anything in the institution itself, despite its history and what we observe.
3. Nazis, the Holocaust and the Catholic Church.
George brough up the comparison himself, and siad in light of sex abuse/Tuam, that is it right to criticise the special place of the church in Irish society today, based on the scandals of the 50s/60s/70s/80/90s?
To back this up- George says, should we criticise Angela Merkel for the crimes of the Nazis? The thing is, that we don't criticise Frau Merkel- we criticise the Nazi party and the institution of racism/ right wing reactionaries.
And yet George employs a perverse/reverse logic. Rather than criticising the Catholic Church and its shameful role in Ireland's history, George says its crimes can be blamed on the Irish people themselves- i.e. something in our nature. But if that was the case- Tuam would be happening to this day. Yet it is not- why? Because thankfully we have reduced the role of the church in this country and continue to do so.

The lack of self awareness/ empathy or courage in thinking about his life long held beliefs is rather disappointing for a professional broadcaster- but then , that is what is implied when we say "Catholic"

nuac

Discodog wrote: »

PC is about being able to make your point without feeling the need to offend people. It's usually about the way that it is said as much as what is said.

In Hook's case it's a constant boorish, barrage on the same topics every day of the week.

Yesterday we had Ivan Yates followed by Hook. Clearly Newstalk want to latch on to the new Trump led agenda.

Yates himself went off on quite a rant, then switched it off to get on with the programme. Tiresome stuff.