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Eir rural FTTH thread

rob808

I made this thread for people on eir rural blue line FTTH please keep here and don't post in Eircom FTTH 66 towns 1 Gb thread about rural FTTH rollout.

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Silpac wrote: »

Thank you that makes sense - one Clarification for me - having done this and all the old school phone ports being live for voip - does that mean they're also also going to work as data ports where I plug in a Pc?

Not if they are daisy chained. My house is the same. Clueless sparks daisy chained just the blue pair in a loop around the house for "the phone". Total waste of Cat5e and RJ45 ports. Might as well have used a tea bag.

Silpac

ED E wrote: »

Yes.

A common technique would be to feed that back into the old phone ring. To explain:
- New FTTH link is fitted, phone port on new modem is now "live"
- Disconnect incoming old copper phone line from master socket
- Connect modems(router really) phone port to the master socket

Now all the "oldschool" phone points around the house are live for the VOIP line. You can connect multiple handsets just like before and if both are picked up you'll hear each other just like before.

Thank you that makes sense - one Clarification for me - having done this and all the old school phone ports being live for voip - does that mean they're also also going to work as data ports where I plug in a Pc?

ED E

Silpac wrote: »

Translated - does this mean I can jam a phone connection into the modem and it will work just like my landline ?

Yes.

A common technique would be to feed that back into the old phone ring. To explain:
- New FTTH link is fitted, phone port on new modem is now "live"
- Disconnect incoming old copper phone line from master socket
- Connect modems(router really) phone port to the master socket

Now all the "oldschool" phone points around the house are live for the VOIP line. You can connect multiple handsets just like before and if both are picked up you'll hear each other just like before.

Silpac

ED E wrote: »

You can even connect your own PABX to the ATA (VOIP port). Then your home can have its own phone network :pac:

Translated - does this mean I can jam a phone connection into the modem and it will work just like my landline ?

Silpac

pegasus1 wrote: »

Yes you would need to disconnect the phone from your cat5e..also run separate runs to each location from router's location. ie. no daisy chaining..

I didn't know what "daisy chain" was until now and like most thing in my house- built in 2005 boom time Charlie - if there a shortcut they took it. All daisy chained !

ED E

Deleted User wrote: »

Complete with IVR, "welcome to the dolanbaker house!"
"press one for himself, two for the missus, three for no one son and four for daughter"

Press F2 to scream at the street via the front door intercom.

[Deleted User]

ED E wrote: »

You can even connect your own PABX to the ATA (VOIP port). Then your home can have its own phone network :pac:

Complete with IVR, "welcome to the dolanbaker house!"
"press one for himself, two for the missus, three for no one son and four for daughter"

ED E

You can even connect your own PABX to the ATA (VOIP port). Then your home can have its own phone network :pac:

[Deleted User]

daraghwal wrote: »

So basically this then?

Yes if you want to use an analogue phone (or two), there's nothing stopping you using an ATA and connecting the phone elsewhere and connecting ethernet to it, or even using the house cat5 cables and RJ45 to RJ11 patch leads.

daraghwal

So basically this then?

[Deleted User]

Johnboy1951 wrote: »

The danger, IMO, is that eir could lock their modem to allow use of only their own VOIP settings, thus excluding user choice of provider.

The firmware on the modem allows you to configure a voip service, I have successfully set up the modem to connect to voipcheap for outgoing calls and there is an option to configure multiple providers and two RJ11 sockets on the box.

ED E

digiman wrote: »

Does the ONT have an ATA?

Nope. Optical, Eth, Power. Thats it.

daraghwal wrote: »

No, 90% the phone would be connected directly to the F1000 router, maybe someone could confirm

Exactly, they've had the functionality in modems since the 2247.

daraghwal

digiman wrote: »

Does the ONT have an ATA?

No, 90% the phone would be connected directly to the F1000 modem, maybe someone could confirm

digiman

Does the ONT have an ATA?

ED E

Johnboy1951 wrote: »

The danger, IMO, is that eir could lock their modem to allow use of only their own VOIP settings, thus excluding user choice of provider.

No. Thats not a problem.

OE provide the ONT. OLOs provide the CPE which includes the VOIP endpoint.

Johnboy1951

KeRbDoG wrote: »

If they did, you could just get a standalone VOIP adapter like the Cisco SPA112

which rather defeats the purpose of having the ATA built into the modem!

KeRbDoG

Johnboy1951 wrote: »

The danger, IMO, is that eir could lock their modem to allow use of only their own VOIP settings, thus excluding user choice of provider.

If they did, you could just get a standalone VOIP adapter like the Cisco SPA112

Johnboy1951

The danger, IMO, is that eir could lock their modem to allow use of only their own VOIP settings, thus excluding user choice of provider.

The Cush

In a recent Comreg publication eir indicated they are in the process of developing a Voice over Broadband (VOB) product which will launch later this year.

https://www.comreg.ie/publication-download/retirement-legacy-networks-services

http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2057709177

[Deleted User]

Silpac wrote: »

That's a pity, would've thought it'd be through the fibre.

Does anyone know if I can use my coaxial cable for a data cable around the house ?

I spoke to Eir rep last week and VOIP will be available at the end of this month, then you can use the "phone" socket on the modem.

pegasus1

Silpac wrote: »

FTTH and phone line ?

Does anyone know - when I get FTTH next week, will my phone line also be working off that?
The reason I ask is my phone line in the house goes to 3 connections and it's cat5e, I want to convert this to an Ethernet / LAN. I assume I need the phone off the network to do that ?!

Thanks

Yes you would need to disconnect the phone from your cat5e..also run separate runs to each location from router's location. ie. no daisy chaining..

Silpac

Deleted User wrote: »

The FTTH is installed completely separately from the analogue phone system and you’re existing phone connections will not be touched at all.

That's a pity, would've thought it'd be through the fibre.

Does anyone know if I can use my coaxial cable for a data cable around the house ?

[Deleted User]

Silpac wrote: »

FTTH and phone line ?

Does anyone know - when I get FTTH next week, will my phone line also be working off that?
The reason I ask is my phone line in the house goes to 3 connections and it's cat5e, I want to convert this to an Ethernet / LAN. I assume I need the phone off the network to do that ?!

Thanks

The FTTH is installed completely separately from the analogue phone system and you’re existing phone connections will not be touched at all.

The Cush

Silpac wrote: »

FTTH and phone line ?

Does anyone know - when I get FTTH next week, will my phone line also be working off that?

No, remains as it is.

Pic of PSTN socket and fibre ODP/ONT in a domestic setup

Silpac

FTTH and phone line ?

Does anyone know - when I get FTTH next week, will my phone line also be working off that?
The reason I ask is my phone line in the house goes to 3 connections and it's cat5e, I want to convert this to an Ethernet / LAN. I assume I need the phone off the network to do that ?!

Thanks

9726_9726

yammagamma wrote: »

i rang a eir shop yesterday and guy told me all there fibre is under ground

Not true! Most of this network is on poles. Loads of pics in this thread.

9726_9726

Mick 6 wrote: »

Yes that's all they had cat 5. Only going 12 Meters to the router. The rest of my network is all cat 6.

Cat5e will easily do gigabit up to 100m. I have lots of installs around the 80-90m mark, 1Gbps full duplex.

Gonzo

yammagamma wrote: »

re splitters , where are they installed as i dont see any up yet along my route and why would there be a couple of loops of cable on my neighbours post but none on mine,, and you just sank my heart saying it could be another 6 months i was like a 5 year old on xmas eve all week after seeing the fibre cable put up on monday

splitters are only installed on every 4th or 5th pole.Each splice box would accommodate 4 to 8 properties.

Gonzo

yammagamma wrote: »

re splitters , where are they installed as i dont see any up yet along my route and why would there be a couple of loops of cable on my neighbours post but none on mine,, and you just sank my heart saying it could be another 6 months i was like a 5 year old on xmas eve all week after seeing the fibre cable put up on monday

it can take up to 6 months, but could be much less if your route is one of the last being worked on before going live. I can just use my area as an example, perhaps our area has had a longer development process than most, work started here on 1st April 2016, almost a year ago now.

yammagamma

re splitters , where are they installed as i dont see any up yet along my route and why would there be a couple of loops of cable on my neighbours post but none on mine,, and you just sank my heart saying it could be another 6 months i was like a 5 year old on xmas eve all week after seeing the fibre cable put up on monday