Reati wrote: » Oh sorry, didn't release I'm not part of the industry club. Must send my license back to the IAA so. All that money on training and testing for nothing :rolleyes: Anyway, back down here off the high horse. I never said they couldn't make a mistake. I said it's highly unlikely and it's more likely the craft failed. Is it possible there was a pilot error due to a system failure? Of course. Is it possible they crashed due to pilot error? Of course but it's still unlikely. Just in case you didn't know, I'm not on the AAIU so I am free to have a public opinion based on track record of the pilots experience and safety record with regard pilot error. The AAIU will be the ones who will figure it out, follow all possible leads, use the FDR and will publish a, no doubt, detailed report. My view nor the views of anyone on a forum isn't going to make a shred of difference to the AAIU investigation. I doubt they are loading up boards.ie and going, Aha! Reati says they couldn't have made a mistake, better rule that out so. Anyway, If the crew fly into Blacksod by mistake, I'd be surprised. it would be an opportunity to learn why and how to prevent it in future. I certainly won't find the joy some in here seem to have for the pilot error theory...
Bazzy wrote: » Yes but in times of unknown people tend to google and check stuff and if your loved one was missing and you we're reading some of the stuff here it would make things worse for you When we have facts we can talk away
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cosanostra wrote: » I just caught a bit of Jurgen Whyte on PrimeTime did he say no significant impact marks were found on Blackrock but there was areas they couldn't get to and no marks were found on lighthouse?
murphaph wrote: » Of course the cause matters. Aviation actually learns from its mistakes through recognising them. Nobody is trying to lay the blame at anyone's feet however.
Gaoth Laidir wrote: » I find it hard to believe that anyone external would pay serious notice of what is being said in this thread. It's clearly all just opinions of a selection of people from all walks of life, some professional aviators, others not. Whatever is said here has absolutely zero effect on the official investigation, so people discussing possibilities is not something that should be stamped out. There is plenty of coverage in the media of the official information being put forward by the AAIU and others so this thread does not serve that purpose. The opinions of those from the aviation industry are no more important than those from outside of it. Whatever is said will not bring back the crew. Nobody has been disrespectful of the crew. Quite the contrary. It's mindboggling the number of goodwill posts made on this thread. However, human error cannot be (yet) ruled out. Neither can anything else. That is where we stand. Until the black box is recovered, discussion will continue.
Reati wrote: » They certainly, I'm my view, did not crash into blacksod due to human error.
Reati wrote: » Anyway, If the crew fly into Blacksod by mistake, I'd be surprised. it would be an opportunity to learn why and how to prevent it in future.
Buffman wrote: » Hi, I'd like to confirm with you that Blacksod lighthouse/helipad and Black Rock lighthouse/helipad are different locations.
Irish Steve wrote: » R116 crew could indeed have made a mistake that ended with the event that is now being discussed,
Irish Steve wrote: » so the suggestions that have been made about accidentally flying into an obstacle or the water while searching for their intended landing point needs to be put into context, and discounted.
Steve wrote: » Yes they are.
bucketybuck wrote: » A question for the uninformed, is it assumed that any wreckage on that island came from a crash, or is it possible that its simply wreckage that washed up on the rocks near the waterline?
Reati wrote: » Yes, I can confirm that for you. Looks like I made human error! Small screen big fingers
eatmyshorts wrote: » You've changed your tune from yesterday.
Buffman wrote: » Ye, no worries, I was trying to phrase it without sounding sarcastic or condescending given the situation.
Irish Steve wrote: » No, I have not changed my tune, I am still willing to say that it's unlikely that they made a mistake that resulted in CFIT, I will reluctantly accept that they may have made a mistake that resulted in the accident. We do not yet have clear proof that a mistake by the crew resulted in flight into Blackrock. There is a difference.
eatmyshorts wrote: » The wreckage, part of the tail, was found on the island in the area between the lighthouse and the adjoining building. Well above the waterline, on top of the island.
