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Rescue 116 Crash at Blackrock, Co Mayo(Mod note in post 1)

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Contact lost just before 0100 off the west coast of Achill island on a rescue mission.
Search in progress including all available ships and Rescue 115.

Hopefully a positive outcome to this.

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limericklad87

It’s in a difficult area, it’s just off the large rock called Black Rock, it’s in difficult waters. It’s in 40m of depth, so we need to find a top point and when we find top point we have a fixed position and from there we need to bring in more equipment to dive down, or use a robot to dive down and actually locate the recorder there. And the hope is that the recorder is with the wreckage.

Jurgen whyte AAI

ted1

truely heart breaking stuff.

adam88

vicwatson wrote: »

The key now in my humble opinion is to get divers down to the wreck ASAP to see if the remaining crew are there.

If the crew are with the wreckage would that indicate things would have been instant. I'm aware they're well trained in how to exit the aircraft in an emergency. Just so strange that a mayday wasn't out out

vicwatson

The key now in my humble opinion is to get divers down to the wreck ASAP to see if the remaining crew are there.

Call me Al

irishgeo wrote: »

That what I was thinking. But you think they would be aware of it. Considering they have some pretty good radar.

Some wreckage would be near the lighthouse surely?

Maybe they were trying to lsnd on the lighthouse island after a problem.

According to a link I either read or heard (I can't remember which) there is wreckage on the island.
But personnel wouldn't speculate as to how it arrived there.

Mightydrumming

How long after the black box is recovered would there be indication as to what happened?

vicwatson

irishgeo wrote: »

Maybe they were trying to aiming on the lighthouse island after a problem.

Would have had time for a mayday shout then

Cloudio9

homerjay2005 wrote: »

any chance they clipped the lighthouse and its that, that brought them down?

I'd think that's extremely unlikely they'd be that low and there would be some damage to the lighthouse.

irishgeo

homerjay2005 wrote: »

any chance they clipped the lighthouse and its that, that brought them down?

That what I was thinking. But you think they would be aware of it. Considering they have some pretty good radar.

Some wreckage would be near the lighthouse surely?

Maybe they were trying to lsnd on the lighthouse island after a problem.

cosanostra

Would Birds congregate on Blackrock just thinking that when they initially flew over blackrock they could have startled a large number of birds which would have been directly in their flightpath when they turned around

homerjay2005

limericklad87 wrote: »

According to Rte..... 60 metres from the lighthouse and in 40 metres of water

any chance they clipped the lighthouse and its that, that brought them down?

flazio

Just to clarify a point of inquiry from earlier. Mark Duffy was the chief pilot at the base in Dublin. This doesn't necessarily mean he was in command of the aircraft when it went down. The confusion might have arisen as Dara was the Chief Pilot in Waterford when she was based down there during the documentary filming a few years ago.
As to who was "the pilot" at the time of the incident, it was both of them. They each had a role to play in piloting the aircraft at all times but we won't know who was at the controls until the flight data recorders are recovered. With any luck the crew aren't far away.

Jack1985

Hope to god we get closure for the remaining families. Its nothing other than torment for them right now. Deepest sympathies to all involved, and especially thinking of the crews SAR colleagues. As a worker based in Dublin Airport, this has really struck a chord with me.

limericklad87

According to Rte..... 60 metres from the lighthouse and in 40 metres of water

sasta le

Thanks was wondering

ED E

sasta le wrote: »

Thought they would have top end gear and be easy to locate

Its not about cheap gear. Its physics. Radio waves don't penetrate water that well.

Razor44

sasta le wrote: »

Thought they would have top end gear and be easy to locate

Water is hard enough to get a signal true irrespective of what kit your using. But they would have top end gear

sasta le

Tabnabs wrote: »

Yes, but I understand it doesn't work at depths of greater than 10m.

Thought they would have top end gear and be easy to locate

Tabnabs

sasta le wrote: »

Would the crew have a tracker/locator device on them?

Yes, but I understand it doesn't work at depths of greater than 10m.

Call me Al

Mayo News have just tweeted that large debris has been found by Celtic Voyager. Hopefully this is the helicopter. It's hard to imagine what else it could be right now.

donvito99

RTÉ Western Correspondent reporting that signal from CDR detected.

https://twitter.com/patmcgrath/status/842052776653934592

sasta le

Would the crew have a tracker/locator device on them?

Buffman

cosanostra wrote: »

118 appeared to land on the coast of iniskea south island then flew direct back to Blacksod

Looks like R118 also landed on Black Rock helipad for a few minutes at around 16:25.

cosanostra

Granuaile giving destination as Blacksod bay

and today fm reporting they have located ping from blackbox

irishgeo

Tabnabs wrote: »

She has a bigger crane than the C Voyager, but not a lot of flat deck to lay the fuselage down on. Curios that the Granuaile has not been dispatched as she has a bigger crane again and acres of deck. She's done this kind of work before too, sadly.

They have to find it first

Tabnabs

Storm 10 wrote: »

Yes they said today they are listening for signals underwater, also said if they find the wreckage they will send in the "Celtic Explorer" which has a large crane and a remote controlled sub.

She has a bigger crane than the C Voyager, but not a lot of flat deck to lay the fuselage down on. Curios that the Granuaile has not been dispatched as she has a bigger crane again and acres of deck. She's done this kind of work before too, sadly.

Oscar Bravo

Casa 253 just flew low level over Castlebar on the way to Knock for fuel

cosanostra

118 appeared to land on the coast of iniskea south island then flew direct back to Blacksod

milewidehead

I hope the "journalists" are kept well away from the wreckage recovery process....there have already been some insensitive pictures of debris being landed. Some of these ghouls will go to any ends to get the 'shot'.

97805

So, so sad. Is it possible to listen in on the search on marine radio or similar?