dahat wrote: » Thanks, really enjoyed it and looking forward to more. Carrick next week but that's a whole different ball game, lumpy 80km and no one day allowed so it might be a bit more sensible.
InTheAttic wrote: » I'll be there on friday. Do you have the strava segment for the race? Or for anyone who has done it before, how tough a circuit is it? Still building my legs so want to find a group I'm comfortable in and just get the training efforts in.
dahat wrote: » Not the easiest of circuits and sure to be spit imo. If ya see a TCR in your group hit me up as I won't be up the road this time. It's pre registration only and limited to 80 riders which is a relief.
InTheAttic wrote: » Will do. Yeah I've registered. All the better if the group is split. It's safer. I'll let those "early-bloomers" go and won't even try to make my way to the front this time. It's a long season and i'll get my legs in time.
dahat wrote: » Just back from a quick loop of the circuit and 80km round there will be torture imo. Two very fast parts but the draggy parts will hurt and I'd expect the group to be in tatters after the first lap.
tegerman wrote: » Wouldn't be so sure. There were three drags per lap last year (including this years one) and the group stayed together pretty much whole way round. But yes, it will be torture
CramCycle wrote: » Knocking out 250W without much stress for half an hour in work. Based on not being clipped in and not receiving much in the way of pressure. This leaves me severely undersetimating my W/kg at 3, which as far as I can tell, puts me in the bottom half of A4. Key thing taken here, not back of A4. Must try and get time on the Wattbike and get an accurate measurement.
Sarz91 wrote: » Can I have your job? Or can you point me in the right direction as to where to apply?
Harrybelafonte wrote: » Question for you Cram Were you doing these tests while down at the track? Is it true that track riders tend to have higher wattage output for the shorter periods, but a lower FTP? Like the 5 minute is higher than a similar level on the road but the hour is well off for the same?
dahat wrote: » What way do ye view FTP and normalized power after a spin? Read a few bits that say they are quite similar. I'm still to do an FTP with the Stages as I'm in a 3 race period so not keen on burningy ass too much with a 4 & 9 day break between each race.
Inquitus wrote: » Watts/Kg is a big deal, if you can hit close to 4W/Kg then you'll do very well in A4 and end up in A3, don't know what you weigh.
mossym wrote: » on what basis would normalised power and ftp be the same, or even similar? normalised power, on a well controlled ride, might be very similar to average power. they are both hugely different to ftp, unless you did a flat out one hour ride.
dahat wrote: » Average power seems to be better realted to my FTP than normalised power which according to some articles is a better reflection of the spin and your ftp. I can't see it myself which is why I'm seeking opinions on it.
Shoco83 wrote: » I wish it was that straight forward, according to my smart turbo and TrainerRoad I'm at just over 3.9W/Kg but have been dropped in most races I have done. I know I have the legs but poor positioning a probable lack of confidence in big bunches means I always seem to get bullied towards the back, there's only so much chasing out of every corner or over the top of every hill before you can't hold on anymore
mossym wrote: » as i said above, neither average power or normalised power is related to ftp unless, as i said above, you do a flat out hour spin. you could have an ftp of 300. if you were to go out on a very easy spin. ap and np could both be 100, if you pedalled consistently and evenly. if you did a lot of surges and coasting, np could be higher than AP, as NP takes into account teh variance of the surges, whereas AP doesn't your FTP doesn't change from ride to ride, well it might, but by very little, as you get fitter/stronger AP and NP could very from 1% of your ftp to 500% of your ftp or more, depending on length and intentisty of the ride. you cannot tell what a persons ftp is by looking at AP or NP, unless, and i'm repeating myself again now, its a flat out test for an hour, or a flat out test for a shorter period and you apply a derating factor(which is how the 20 mins test is run) honestly, you should pick up the training with power book. not understanding ftp, NP, AP, and to a lesser extent IF, variability index, makes using a power meter pretty pointless.
py wrote: » Setup an account on trainingpeaks. They've a feature that will calculate your FTP (and FTHR) based off your best 20 minute effort from your ride files. Even though you've not done your actual FTP test yet, your race should have a good solid effort that they can base it off.
dahat wrote: » Is this a subscription or is the free part enough to gain what i need from it?
dahat wrote: » Best of luck today,dull & wind starting to pick here locally. See ya on the road!
