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Rescue 116 Crash at Blackrock, Co Mayo(Mod note in post 1)

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Contact lost just before 0100 off the west coast of Achill island on a rescue mission.
Search in progress including all available ships and Rescue 115.

Hopefully a positive outcome to this.

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beanian

why would the chopper be still on the ground in castlebar over an hour after arriving? Why not re-join the SAR operation?
Would the crew have exceeded a max number of shift hours or something?

Atlantic Dawn

irishgeo wrote: »

have they actually transferred the injured fisherman off yet?

Yes it was a seperate helicopter that did this, 116 was providing aerial cover for it.

dregin

irishgeo wrote: »

have they actually transferred the injured fisherman off yet?

Yes, last night.

irishgeo

Cloudio9 wrote: »

One of the rescue helicopters has left the scene and landed at Castlebar hospital in the last half hour so I suspect we'll have another update shortly.

Was tracked at 160 knots which is its maximum speed.

have they actually transferred the injured fisherman off yet?

irishgeo

achill lifeboat on the way back to port.

Daibheid

This is not the time for any form of criticism.

Last AIS position and course suggests they may have been trying for the landing pad on Black Rock. Heaven knows why there appears to have been no Mayday if they were trying for or even thought there was a potential need for an emergency landing. Please God the fantastic response from all on scene will yield some positive news soon and the critical casualty is stabilised.

arubex

Chaps I appreciate it's an emotional time but can we stow all the plaudits and focus on the events. It's hard to follow the actual news here.

Mint Sauce

JillyQ wrote: »

Such sad news. I hope the rescued crew member makes a full recovery. My house is on the flight path into UHG and often hear the helicopters going in and out of the hospital. It's only when we wake up to news like this that most of us realise how brave those crew members and there families actually are.

Same here. I work quite close to SGH, and it's quite a regular occurrence here too. Only heard the Chopper at the weekend, and always makes you stop and think.

The Veteran

Absolutely - There's a reason ATC clear them to fly direct across the runways.

There are many who owe so much to the few SAR crews in ireland and around the world

JillyQ

Such sad news. I hope the rescued crew member makes a full recovery. My house is on the flight path into UHG and often hear the helicopters going in and out of the hospital. It's only when we wake up to news like this that most of us realise how brave those crew members and there families actually are.

Fabio

The Veteran wrote: »

As someone who works in the airport and can see across the Apron to where this aircraft is based and as someone who lives close to the coast; every time I see the helicopter go up or overhead I spare a thought for whoever needs them. Again as someone who sees the safety practices in action at the airport for aircraft everyday, I know everyone takes safety and their work very seriously. These guys go up in the air and go into storms etc when no-one else will; they fly aircraft to the limits to help others.

Thoughts are with the crew, their colleagues and families.

So that others may live.

Mint Sauce

Minister wrote: »

Eugene Clonans real empathy makes what is happening more 'real' and heartbreaking than the usual corporate robots usually wheeled out by agencies/corporations etc.

I think also, when it involves your own countrymen, it adds to the heartbreak, it feels much closer to home.

The Veteran

As someone who works in the airport and can see across the Apron to where this aircraft is based and as someone who lives close to the coast; every time I see the helicopter go up or overhead I spare a thought for whoever needs them. Again as someone who sees the safety practices in action at the airport for aircraft everyday, I know everyone takes safety and their work very seriously. These guys go up in the air and go into storms etc when no-one else will; they fly aircraft to the limits to help others.

Thoughts are with the crew, their colleagues and families.

sjb25

Lads does it really matter who said what for god sake interviews shouldn't be done untill all facts are known really but in this day and age people NEED to know straight away so all kinds of info ends up being circulated which is not fair on anybody as they don't even know exactly what is going on so give both the guys a break on the big scheme of things today does it really matter that much

Minister

Eugene Clonans real empathy makes what is happening more 'real' and heartbreaking than the usual corporate robots usually wheeled out by agencies/corporations etc.

Mint Sauce

Listen to the news to date on Newstalk. This is heartbreaking stuff.

arubex

CASA 253 returning to Baldonnel at 09:40.

LXFlyer

Gaoth Laidir wrote: »

No, it was Eugene Clonan.

Two interviews took place on Morning Ireland - the initial one with local photographer Fergus Sweeney and the second with Eugene Clonan.

But again this is really irrelevant in terms of the bigger picture here.

Cloudio9

One of the rescue helicopters has left the scene and landed at Castlebar hospital in the last half hour so I suspect we'll have another update shortly.

Was tracked at 160 knots which is its maximum speed.

neris

Very sad to hear would always see the helicopter out around where I live and sail in howth. Hear them on the vhf when training or out on exercise.

Gaoth Laidir

ironclaw wrote: »

The guy on RTE was Fergus Sweeney to the best of my recollection. I have nothing but respect for the Coast Guard and was in close proximity to the Tramore incident a few years back, hence my interest.

I'd respectfully disagree. He answered the questions he wanted to be or thought had been asked, had little technical information and on the whole, wasn't the person RTE should have interviewed in my opinion. And its just that, an opinion.

I don't want to drag the thread, lets get on topic and hope for the best outcome here

No, it was Eugene Clonan.

Veloce

The IAC Casa has returned inland. Probably to refuel. The past track search pattern is incredible, it's covered a huge area in such a short time.

Comhrá

jones 19 wrote: »

Very unprofessional by the head of the coast guard on Newstalk earlier .

Very unfair and unkind comment. So easy to criticise and condemn from the comfort of your keyboard.

LXFlyer

ironclaw wrote: »

If it was the guy on Morning Ireland, he was hopeless. He said it was a Scottish trawler, when it was Russian according to the Coast Guy statement. He wasn't prepared and seemed to just make it up as he went along. He shouldn't have been talking on national radio as he appeared to be a local lad who got the call and wanted a big day out.

Why didn't the Coast Guard have a rep? That seems odd to me for such a major incident, especially as we are ~6 hrs in.

I think that you are being rather harsh. The guy interviewed was a locally based journalist/photographer who broke the story overnight on twitter.

He would not have all of the technical info nor would I expect him to, and I think perhaps Cathal MacCoille was asking questions that were a little unreasonable in terms of what he would be expected to know.

The director of the Coast Guard gave a full interview after 08:00 with much more technical and informed information.

Given that the incident took place overnight, the time lapse before an official statement/interview was made isn't that surprising, and as well as that full internal incident meetings/briefings would have to take place first, along with getting support vessels and aircraft on site, and as mentioned families alerted too.

Our thoughts need to be with the crew, their families and all who work in the emergency services at this stage who do tremendous work 24/7, and not on a sideshow criticising someone for an interview.

jimbis

Air Corp Casa seems the be returning to Dublin.

I'm actually in shock with the news. I've met and chatted with most of the crew and not only are they amazing brave lifesavers but they are just genuinely lovely nice people.

Pinch Flat

Thoughts with the crew and their families. The work these guys do is unreal.

Cessna_Pilot

Shocking and deeply saddening news to wake up to this morning. Heard the lads head off in the very early hours this morning as they departed Dublin.

Some of the comments on here are worthy of the Journal ffs some people need a bit of cop on/compassion.

January

jones 19 wrote: »

Very unprofessional by the head of the coast guard on Newstalk earlier .

That's a bit much as someone else said he possibly knows these guys personally and has to put out interviews at a time when he's worried for colleagues. No wonder he was a mess.

knucklehead6

Stheno wrote: »

What is the CHC?

Contractor.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CHC_Helicopter

Stheno

What is the CHC?