Lady Chatterton wrote: » The same as lots of couples enter marriage with every intention of obeying their vows but people are human, they fall in and out of love.
vicwatson wrote: » Gay Byrne wanker in that interview
Matt.ie wrote: » What are you going on about man? The fact I was confirmed by Dr casey was an add on. Now the question I asked was quiet simple,show me where he perched about celibacy. You could do with a bit of church yourself I dare say,it might help take the edge off that hate an anger you hold toward religion.
Water John wrote: » RIP I heard of the fact that he had a teenage son, 3 years before it became public and I live in a diff county. A lot of people must have known. Certainly knew of a PP in my county having 3 children. A good % of priests working in 'third world' countries have partners and children. He was wrong on the money issue. He was however treated appallingly by his fellow bishops.
kylith wrote: » Regardless of anything else, the vow of chastity is a fcking stupid idea.
paleoperson wrote: » murpho999 always has an insatiable thirst for putting down the church. No doubt he was never treated badly by them or knew anyone that was, he just sees it as an opportunity to spread hate while supposed retaining the moral upper ground.
murpho999 wrote: » Never treated badly by the church as I stopped believing and going at around the age of 13. I did however go to a school run by Presentation Brothers and some of those guys treated kids badly, including myself , in a cruel, sadistic manner more so than a sexually perverted way. Also, I do actually know a person who was sexually abused by a priest in Rathnew. Priest is now in jail. So you're actually wrong, but no doubt it's not the priest's fault, probably the fault of good looking children in opinion of those who seem to defend the church no matter what happens. As for putting down the church, I don't have an insatiable thirst to put it down. As the last week has shown, the church is more than capable itself of bringing itself into disrepute. What annoys me more is how the church still has a grip over people here as it has become culturally ingrained. Kids being baptised to just to get into a school. Kids receiving baptism, communion and confirmation despite never going to church or being religious as it's the social thing to do. RTE still showing The Angelus despite Ireland being legally secular Pubs being forced to close on Good Friday because of archaic religious laws. I could go on and on but the catholics here will defend it so there's not much point.
Itssoeasy wrote: » Its an act of the oireachtas that prohibits pubs being open on good Friday not a religious law archaic or otherwise.
murpho999 wrote: » The Oireachtas was heavily influenced and controlled by the church at the time De Valera was too well in with bishop John McQuaid basically controlling the country at the time and catholic influenced laws introduced.
kylith wrote: » Just because it's an act of the Oireachtas doesn't mean it's not religiously motivated. The pubs don't close because we're all so feckin' secular.
Itssoeasy wrote: » I know that but this the intoxicating liquor act has been amended several times since then then so Dev has had feck all to do with the most recent act. Murpho999 you come across as being very angry and have ranted several times in this thread. I was simply giving you the reason why the pubs are still closed on good Friday and you replied by ranting.
murpho999 wrote: » I fail to see how pointing out historical facts can be interpreted as ranting. I only seem to come across as angry to those who support the church.
DanMurphy wrote: » Gaybo thought he was a demi - God. Instead, he was a cardboard cut-out of a real man. TV fame does that to weak people. All in my opinion, of course.
murpho999 wrote: » Completely different issue and nothing to do with the protection of paedophiles that occured afterwards. Ha, I hope you're being sarcastic.
murpho999 wrote: » I have no idea about him preaching or 'perching' about celibacy, but the truth is that he took an oath of celibacy when he joined the church. He then became a Bishop and that meant he would have conducted ordination ceremonies and sworn new priests into the church and swore these men to celibacy. Celibacy is an important cornerstone of Catholic pastoral life. He went against this on more than one occasion over a prolonged period of time. He also stole money that had been donated to the church which is a sin in the eyes of the church and its God and also a crime in the eyes of the law. But people are now excusing this because he's only human and look what came later. As for your last comment. I o not need church. Feel no hate or anger towards them. Just pity for people who believe and follow it and allow their lives to be dictated to by hypocrites.
murpho999 wrote: » Eamon Casey walked into a bar. "Pint of Guinness please". "Sorry, we're out of Guinness", replied the barman. "Ok, do you have any Murphy's?" asked the bishop.
