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Meath GAA discussion thread

Hammer Archer

Well Galway has a thread, Mayo has one, even Cavan has one so why not us?

Two one point defeats in a row means we're back into relegation trouble especially if we lose to Derry next week. Having said that, beat Derry next week and promotion is still a (remote) possibility. Joe Sheridan leaving for the States certainly isn't going to help.
Thought the performance yesterday was easily the worst of the league. Our away form is killing us still.

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Jesus this is dirt from Meath

Rock Lesnar

Why do i put myself through this, pulling most of the team back against 2 forwards at most and we are still gifting them scores, big 2nd half required...again

Al_Coholic

Rock Lesnar wrote:

Why do i put myself through this, pulling most of the team back against 2 forwards at most and we are still gifting them scores, big 2nd half required...again

The lack of tackling by the defenders is a worry ,all too easy for Down to score

Al_Coholic

2 point loss flatters Meath
An awful performance

Felexicon

I'm as close as I've ever been to giving up on Meath GAA

Rock Lesnar

Well that was horrendous, my summary is, the tactics are really getting to me now, we invite teams to run at us by pulling most of the team back and we cant defend it.

we play with a target man and kick to him when he is surrounded with no support around him

Our kick outs are rubbish, we gave up scores by misplaced passes, been unable to hold on to the ball, and apart from Reilly, we have no forward that can kick long range points

Rock Lesnar

And as i start this long walk back to the car, i just remembered i still have trips to cork and clare to go, cant.....wait

Hammer Archer

Rock Lesnar wrote: »

And as i start this long walk back to the car, i just remembered i still have trips to cork and clare to go, cant.....wait

My thoughts exactly. Don't know why I take time and money out of my weekend to watch that. The lack of even basic skills at times is baffling. Simple 20 yard kick passes sailing over players' heads, simple 5 yard hand passes to a player's feet.
It'll take a miracle for us to stay up. I can't see us winning more than maybe one of the remaining 4 games.

CrabRevolution

Looking at that match on eir tonight, and despairing/pondering a few things. While it was definitely time for him to go, I think O'Dowd is judged a bit harshly for his tenure. After the Westmeath catastrophe people were keen to paint his entire reign as 4 years of dismal failure. Hyperbole about deep psychological scars and most unfit team in Ireland abounded during last autumn/winter.

O'Dowd should probably have left after 2015, because in 2016 people were queueing up to slate him before Meath even kicked a ball in January. I actually got the impression winning the O'Byrne cup annoyed some Meath people since it delayed their chance to get the boot into O'Dowd.

McEntee won the AI club with Ballyboden in March 2016 and from then on the narrative on O'Dowd's reign was set in stone-"MOD led Meath into the abyss and only Andy can save us now".Nothing short of an All Ireland win would stop people savouring the end of O'Dowd's management and the appointment of McEntee. An O'Byrne cup victory, a middling league and forgettable championship were made out to be the worst season in living memory.

Even under O'Dowd though we had wins against Down (home and away) and Kildare with this same bunch of players. At the very least you'd have thought McEntee would have the team maintaining that level of performance, not going backwards.

It's early days yet, and I don't blame people for wanting to believe McEntee will whip these players into a top team, but I just don't think we have the players.

NufcNavan

Rock Lesnar wrote: »

Well that was horrendous, my summary is, the tactics are really getting to me now, we invite teams to run at us by pulling most of the team back and we cant defend it.

we play with a target man and kick to him when he is surrounded with no support around him

Our kick outs are rubbish, we gave up scores by misplaced passes, been unable to hold on to the ball, and apart from Reilly, we have no forward that can kick long range points

Pretty much this.

I was left watching that wondering what the hell does be going on in training. Do they work on any game plan or what.

Players back for the sake of it. Probably the worst full forward line you're likely to see.

What are we doing? Where's the gameplan? Where's the identity.

Down are a poor team who were keen enough to get their well overdue win. We made it easy for them tonight.

windy shepard henderson

felt meath looked like there were in heavy training ,very little pace to the game .

mcantee will have to do a better job in sowing lads how to defend , meath brought several lads back and did little with them , too many lads marking space and not knowing what to do

midfield is crying out for a ball winners in the middle of the field , the tactic of long ball to sheridan is fairly outdated too and wont work , was o sullivan injured to say he went off at half time? ,the forwards look ok , just short a midfielder would o'rourke be better off out the field?

ye wont get relegated but most likley promotion is screwed after tonight

rpurfield

Didn't travel last night thankfully. Agree with a lot of what is said above, I've even had it off line in terms of people who ranted about MOD last year already revising opinions. In terms of heavy training considering Andy said getting to division 1 was a priority I don't think he'd be running the legs off lads in the thick of the league. I'm seriously hoping its a case of new ideas taking time to bed in, but I doubt it. Serious amount of low points in the last four or five years, been far too many bad days compared to good.

Hammer Archer

I think it's becoming clear now that we simply do not have the players. Regardless of the manager involved, we're just not good enough.
Several times on Saturday simple 20 yard kick passes sailed over the target's head, simple 5 yard hand passes ended up at the players feet. At one stage, we regained possession of the ball near the touchline inside our own 45. There was a player in acres of space infield around 30-40 yards away. Instead of a simple cross field kick pass and what could have been a chance at a counter attack, there were 3 slow hand passes across the pitch to the same player meaning Down funneled men back to defend.
Also, at times the players just seem to follow the ball like an U6 team and then seem surprised when there's a free man in acres of space.

If I keep going, I'll start tearing my hair out again. Let's hope we can cling on to division 2 status again. Hopefully some of the U21s can improve things.

rpurfield

Hammer Archer wrote: »

I think it's becoming clear now that we simply do not have the players. Regardless of the manager involved, we're just not good enough.
Several times on Saturday simple 20 yard kick passes sailed over the target's head, simple 5 yard hand passes ended up at the players feet. At one stage, we regained possession of the ball near the touchline inside our own 45. There was a player in acres of space infield around 30-40 yards away. Instead of a simple cross field kick pass and what could have been a chance at a counter attack, there were 3 slow hand passes across the pitch to the same player meaning Down funneled men back to defend.
Also, at times the players just seem to follow the ball like an U6 team and then seem surprised when there's a free man in acres of space.

If I keep going, I'll start tearing my hair out again. Let's hope we can cling on to division 2 status again. Hopefully some of the U21s can improve things.

According to some the problem is purely down to not having any of the county champions on the panel. If only life was that simple. The Dubs and Kerry are always knocking around the business end of the Minor and 21 championships meaning they only really need to pick a couple off each team, we've not had consistent underage success since the early 90s, lads won't lick it off the ground.

Obrieski

Big game tomorrow, 2 changes with McMahon and Tobin in.
Certainly would expect more pace from Meath with McMahon up front, the big full forward is an out dated tactic at this stage.
It's a tight group with everyone beating everyone so it is imperative to win tomorrow to give us a bit of breathing space from the bottom.

Hope Tobin is fit as he is a good player, and will never be found wanting when it comes to effort to be fair to him.

Hammer Archer

Hurlers' game in Roscommon has been called off.
No word about Navan yet as far as I can see.

iDave

That was nervy as hell! Well done to them credit where its due.

Royal Legend

nice to see that we are now finishing games strong. even in last weeks defeat we still won the second half, same before with Derry as well. makes a change to blowing big leads after half time, work in progress, well done today.

Rock Lesnar

Good win and deserved i taught, nice to see some fight and spirit in the team, still a bit to defensive but we did play with more forwards in their half compared to other games, especially in 1st half, seemed to revert to packing the defense 2nd half and that allowed Galway back into it but we managed to sneak it with the goal late on.

I taught Donal Lenihan was excellant, Padraic Harnan to, and Adam Flanagan when introduced was very good to

Hammer Archer

Bit of passion and hard work was nice to see. Not a great performance by any means but if we can put in a similar performance in the remaining three games we have a chance of promotion.
How good was O'Sullivan's pass to Lenehan for the goal?

whatnext

Love the photo in the Irish Times match report

http://www.irishtimes.com/sport/gaelic-games/gaelic-football/meath-edge-battle-of-traditional-powerhouses-in-navan-1.2998588

CrabRevolution

Is there a more clichéd cliché in the GAA than "X will be like a wounded animal now in the next match"?* Hearing it a lot about Cork before we play them in a fortnight.

*Closely followed by the thousands of geniuses who think they're being original when they say "GAA = Grab All Association"

rpurfield

whatnext wrote: »

Love the photo in the Irish Times match report

http://www.irishtimes.com/sport/gaelic-games/gaelic-football/meath-edge-battle-of-traditional-powerhouses-in-navan-1.2998588

No photos taken yesterday so :cool:

Hammer Archer

Championship draws have been made.

SFC
Group A
Duleek/Bellewstown
Summerhill
Gaeil Colmcille
Wolfe Tones
Donaghmore/Ashbourne
Rathkenny

Group B
Seneschalstown
Moynalvey
Simonstown
St Colmcille's
Navan O'Mahonys
Blackhall Gaels

Group C
St Patrick's
Skryne
Dunboyne
Dunshaughlin
Na Fianna
Ratoath

SHC
Group A
Longwood
Clann na nGael
Kilmessan
Ratoath
St. Peter's Dunboyne
Trim

Group B
Boardsmill
Dunderry
Kildalkey
Kiltale
Killyon
Blackhall Gaels

IFC
Group A
Trim
Longwood
Dunderry
Drumbaragh
Ballinlough
St Michaels

Group B
Curraha
Kilmainham
Ballinabrackey
Bective
Ballivor
Castletown

Group C
Oldcastle
Syddan
St. Ultans
Walterstown
Nobber
Donaghmore/Ashbourne

IHC
Group A
Kildalkey
Wolfe Tones
Na Fianna
Kilmessan
Donaghmore/Ashbourne
Navan O'Mahonys

Group B
Kilskyre/Moylagh
Gaeil Colmcille
Drumree
Kiltale
St. Peter's Dunboyne
Rathmolyon

JFC A
Group A
Clonard
Moynalty,
Meath Hill
Drumconrath
Clan na nGael
Cortown

Group B
Dunsany
St. Brigids
Moylagh
Carnaross
Kilmainhamwood
St Vincents

Group C
Summerhill
Wolfe Tones
Dunshaughlin
Seneschalstown
Skryne
St. Peter's Dunboyne

JHC
Group A
Killyon
Boardsmill
Ratoath
Drumree
Kilskyre/Moylagh
Kiltale
Rathmolyon

Group B
Navan O'Mahonys
Trim
Clann na nGael
Wolfe Tones
Na Fianna
Kildalkey

JFCB
Group A
Boardsmill
Dunderry
Slane
St Mary's
St Paul's
Kilbride

Group B
Trim
Simonstown
Gaeil Colmcille
St. Peter's Dunboyne
Donaghmore/Ashbourne
Na Fianna

Group C
St Patrick's
St Colmcille's
Walterstown
Nobber
Moynalvey
Navan O'Mahonys

Local derbies all over the place in Group C in the SFC. And we're renewing acquaintances again rpurfield.

Hammer Archer

Highlights of Sunday's game here http://www.tg4.ie/en/player/home/?pid=5350095852001&teideal=GAA%202017%20&series=GAA%202017

Hammer Archer

Refixture of the postponed NHL game with Roscommon is set for Donaghmore/Ashbourne this coming Thursday at 7:45pm. Great for the hurlers but a bit unfair on the Roscommon team.

Hammer Archer

Good day for both minor teams.
Footballers are through to the MFL final after beating Carlow 2-14 to 1-6.
The hurlers hockeyed Roscommon 7-22 to 9 points in the MHL.

rpurfield

That SFC draw would look way better with 16 teams :pac: could someone explain to me how the junior is working with the one group of second teams? Also looking an explanation of why the hurlers game was switched to Ashbourne. I'm having an inquisitive weekend!!

Hammer Archer

Presumably the JFC works like any other year. Just this year it was decided to put all second teams in their own group.

Not entirely sure where the hurlers are playing to be honest. I saw on Twitter and on Hoganstand that it's in Ashbourne but the GAA website says Athleague. I'd assume that if it is Ashbourne it's because there were no grounds available in Roscommon so they forfeit home advantage.

Hurlers only have to win on Thursday and they'll be in the final against Wicklow. They beat Mayo today 2-19 to 15 points.

CrabRevolution

The GAA website has also had all of our home games down for Trim, even though they've all been held in Navan.